Electric Motorhomes at Scale, Can't be Far Away Now.

No one has mentioned the fact that a significant number of motorhomes are kept in storage, not on the driveway. Unless substantial infrastructure is installed at these locations, it cannot be assumed that any motorhome is going to start its journey with a full charge. Whilst some of the journeys will be within a 100 mile or so radius and this viable as EV, the "run to the sun" may involve five or six days of long runs. Add in that these overnight stops may well be "off-grid" and it starts looking problematic. I submit that this is closer to the reality of motorhome usage.
On the mg forum recently someone left there's unused for a couple of months I forget the actual figures but the reduction in charge was pretty minimal!
 
No I roughly calculated £28k for petrol/ diesel and £6k for electricity the £22k is the difference. On our diesel car we get up to 60mpg on a run but look at the long term average you are unlikely to see it anywhere near the best figure. The Tesla at £44k could have been cheaper if yours really is worth very little they seem to have a better residual.
Guess you used todays diesel pump prices? I seldom pay them…..

Also a tesla wont do half what a v70 does, and certainly a 2013 model wouldnt!

Tow, have a cavernous boot etc etc and only need charging once every 600 miles. (For five minutes)
 
I will wait until a 7m 4t good quality S/H price for 6y old EV MH
comes down to today's price of £43,000, which is the inflation-adjusted price of what I paid in 2009.

I am waiting for the wind to whistle into.:LOL:
Good luck with that Geoff😏

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I find our Q4-e-ton which has heat pump loses more like 25-30% in very cold weather , perhaps we’re a bit heavy footed but compared to our ICE petrol it’s far worse
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Electric only cheap due to the tax system. Take all of the tax off fossil fuel and it would be a clear winner.
Need to take all the tax off electric as well to make the comparison fair. And even then I doubt it?
 
You're a good salesman, but it's not working on me 😀, electric cars are not the future. Most manufacturers have realised this now and are abandoning the technology.
Jeez you do like making up facts :p

Which manufacturers exactly have realised this and given up? Curious minds require an answer to this one :D
 
My guess is they are some fictional cars in Musks imagination…..Holywood?
Police have been using Tesla's in increasing numbers. This is from 2021 so it is not a recent thing.

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BMW, Mercedes and Audi for now.
As far as I know they are still manufacturing EVs just not the ones people want at a price people will pay.
Make shit, make it expensive of course no one will buy.

But they are not turning their backs on EVs. What would they sell instead?
 
As far as I know they are still manufacturing EVs just not the ones people want at a price people will pay.
Make shit, make it expensive of course no one will buy.

But they are not turning their backs on EVs. What would they sell instead?
I think they all panicked when Tesla came along and took a chunk out of the company car high up the range market and completely forgot about the mass market which is now coming back to bite them. They now want tariffs on Chinese EVs until they have a chance to try and catch up or are looking at rebadged Chinese models and drivetrains if they think they are unlikely to compete.
I think the likes of ford have realised that the writing is on the wall for mass produced small ice cars it's the reason they abandoned the fiesta previously the biggest seller in the UK.
 
Btw, never seen an EV police car?
the policia local use them here but then again they don't go anywhere. In Madrid I read a report that they have a couple of hundred all parked up as there are no facilities to charge them

& the you tube showing a ford mustang ev ran out of power after 26 minutes pursuit.
If there are 500 ambulances, how many hearses are there in he same geographical region? :rolleyes:
Would be ideal for that use

Police have been using Tesla's in increasing numbers. This is from 2021 so it is not a recent thing.

I'd like to know what the Uk mot failure rate is as in Denmark & Germany 25% of tesla's fail there mot's on brakes, lighting, electrical faults & tyres. Compared to 9% of all other ev makes.https://swedenherald.com/article/teslas-setback-many-danish-cars-rejected

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As far as I know they are still manufacturing EVs just not the ones people want at a price people will pay.
Make shit, make it expensive of course no one will buy.

But they are not turning their backs on EVs. What would they sell instead?
Indeed BMW say that their Munich plant will be building 100% electric by 2027, they might be a bit behind China on the development side but I and I am sure others will be prepared to wait and buy something that isn’t Chinese😏
 
Indeed BMW say that their Munich plant will be building 100% electric by 2027, they might be a bit behind China on the development side but I and I am sure others will be prepared to wait and buy something that isn’t Chinese😏
It's not really the mass market though. Where do the previous ford fiesta buyers go for a city runabout?
 
It's not really the mass market though. Where do the previous ford fiesta buyers go for a city runabout?
That is what we are waiting for. The manufactures obviously hit the high margin stuff first. But they will eventually have to hit the low budget markets to hit targets.

Batteries are now below the cost of an ICE car so it is only a matter of time. Major manufacturers are worried about cannibalising their profitable ICE production lines, but they can't hold off much longer.
 
My neighbour has an Audi RS e-tron GT that has just spent the last six weeks at Audi for a battery replacement.

Luckily it was under warranty. I think he agrees with the French translation!
I’m sure he’ll have been supplied with a courtesy car .

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Hi Folks,
Over a beer the other night, a guy I know told me of his amazing Jaguar I-Pace. It cost over £85K new and has all the toys. It is about 4 years old, he said, but now has a problem. It needs a new battery pack. He has been quoted £30,000 for the batteries!
Of course this is one example, from one manufacturer, and cannot represent all EVs......But....
Can you imaging spending over £100K on a motorhome, and as we all like to keep our vehicles, having to find that sort of money for a new battery pack some time later? The last time I had info on a new Internal Combustion Engine, it was about £10,000 for a 3 Lt V6 - again a Jaguar.
Another point - what about the environmental cost of digging out the heavy and rare metals, transporting them, making the batteries, transporting them, and then disposing of them? Are not in danger of leaving a huge problem for future generations to deal with. OK for us crinkly folks, but our children and grand children will have a lot to sort out.
I am sure EVs will become a realistic option for some, I just don't want everyone to be forced into something that does not meet their needs because we have removed options in the blind belief that we all want what we are told we want.
 
Hi Folks,
Over a beer the other night, a guy I know told me of his amazing Jaguar I-Pace. It cost over £85K new and has all the toys. It is about 4 years old, he said, but now has a problem. It needs a new battery pack. He has been quoted £30,000 for the batteries!
Of course this is one example, from one manufacturer, and cannot represent all EVs......But....
Can you imaging spending over £100K on a motorhome, and as we all like to keep our vehicles, having to find that sort of money for a new battery pack some time later? The last time I had info on a new Internal Combustion Engine, it was about £10,000 for a 3 Lt V6 - again a Jaguar.
Another point - what about the environmental cost of digging out the heavy and rare metals, transporting them, making the batteries, transporting them, and then disposing of them? Are not in danger of leaving a huge problem for future generations to deal with. OK for us crinkly folks, but our children and grand children will have a lot to sort out.
I am sure EVs will become a realistic option for some, I just don't want everyone to be forced into something that does not meet their needs because we have removed options in the blind belief that we all want what we are told we want.
Look at the recent articles on battery life. They are lasting way better than expected and almost all manufacturers now offer very long warranties way longer than on conventional engines. On our budget EVs and MG the battery warranty is 7 years or 150,000 km how many MH manufacturers offer a similar warranty on the engine?
 
Hi Folks,
Over a beer the other night, a guy I know told me of his amazing Jaguar I-Pace. It cost over £85K new and has all the toys. It is about 4 years old, he said, but now has a problem. It needs a new battery pack. He has been quoted £30,000 for the batteries!
Strange if its only 4 years old.....the I-Pace come with an 8 year/100k miles warranty, why isn't he claiming under it?

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