Doc on tour, France, Spain, Morroco.

Not a lot I can say as I’ve only met you once.
However Jan is a get advisor to me on our own health.
She listens to a lot on mental heath/ helping yourself/ trying to help me!
We listened to this ladies podcast over Christmas/ new year.
Then tonight saw this when reading the news!
www.theguardian.com

‘Let them’: can this viral self-help mantra change your life?

The concept, made popular by self-help guru Mel Robbins, is a reminder that we can’t control others’ actions
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I do find Mel Robbins repeating herself, but I have to get past that and listen to the what she is saying.

Hope the “ let Them” works for you👍😁
 
Northernraider Tam I'm so pleased you have come back to YOUR thread it's your story which you have always told warts and all, I can fully understand why you are upset and need time to work things out in your head, I am surprised at the messages, I can only think there is one common denominator in this and that's Jackie gossiping I would stay well clear of contact with her in the future.
I am sorry you have had this to contend with and do hope you can manage to carry on sharing your journey with us.
Sending hugs.
 
Sad reading Tam, I don't know why people behave this way or what to say to make you feel better.
I can understand how hurtful it must be for you.
Put it behind you and move forward with your four loyal buddies ❣️

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Tam.. you've got it off your chest, shared it throughout our community, that helps for sure.
Being a lone human traveller, is difficult in times of trouble, upset or stress.... no-one to immediately share your troubled times with...this only causes the situation to multiply within yourself..
Clear you head with good thoughts...don't try to work it all out...humans are strange creatures, but most of the time are great company.
Enjoy your quality time and make the most of what you have and the way you live...life is generally good...but at times difficult for all of us...,
 
I’ve been struck with the great difference between approach to travel in two threads…
I went back to the Spanish trip with Frankie in 2018 just to reassure myself that those threads with day to day adventure challenge and humour were what you were about
I look forward to more of your wonderful photos of wild places, warm dogs as friends and challenges met with ingenuity and humour
 
jumar said:
Tam.. you've got it off your chest, shared it throughout our community, that helps for sure.
Being a lone human traveller, is difficult in times of trouble, upset or stress.... no-one to immediately share your troubled times with...this only causes the situation to multiply within yourself..
Clear you head with good thoughts...don't try to work it all out...humans are strange creatures, but most of the time are great company.
Enjoy your quality time and make the most of what you have and the way you live...life is generally good...but at times difficult for all of us...,
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Tam, Martin speaks for both of us 💜
 
There is always two sides to every story, I feel sorry for all the people involved, travelling should all be about enjoyment, there is enough animosity in the world already, to love life you need the ability to let go, look forward not backwards and just enjoy being alive and doing what you do. 👍
 
Carol said:
Northernraider Tam I'm so pleased you have come back to YOUR thread it's your story which you have always told warts and all, I can fully understand why you are upset and need time to work things out in your head, I am surprised at the messages, I can only think there is one common denominator in this and that's Jackie gossiping I would stay well clear of contact with her in the future.
I am sorry you have had this to contend with and do hope you can manage to carry on sharing your journey with us.
Sending hugs.
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I'm not taking any sides in this as I haven't got a clue what's set it all off, but one thing I don't think is right is accusing Jackie of anything as up to yet from what we have seen she isn't mentioned in all these emails.
I just hope they sort it out without any blame on anyone.
 
Tam, firstly it's good to have you back posting again, you had us a bit worried, no doubt your furry family have given you a lot of love to help you cope with what's gone on.

Ignore those who are pointing fingers, those who listen to other people's insinuations etc but haven't given you the details of what has been said and therefore the opportunity to respond appropriately.

You're not the only one who gets that, I get it from my family, one in particular is making things difficult at the moment by accusing me of abandoning my 99 year old mum who's in hospital even though I'm in Spain and am doing all I can from here (more than the rest of them together), she's even going so far as to say I'm in the UK hiding somewhere so as not to see mum! No amount of proof etc will convince her otherwise and she's convinced others of this too. This isn't the first time and no doubt won't be the last.

I totally understand your confusion and astonishment as, like I've said, I've experienced what you have too, I'm not letting it bother me though as it's not worth the headspace so do the same if you can and concentrate on what's important to you. If the opportunity arises to sort things, even though it'll never be the same, take it so long as it will help YOU, otherwise don't give it another though - yes I know it's easier said than done but it will diminish gradually.

If you need to get stuff off your chest, or more likely out of your head, feel free to pm me anytime, I won't judge, chastise, criticise, I may take the pee 😄 though!

Mel

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jumar said:
Clear you head with good thoughts...don't try to work it all out...humans are strange creatures, but most of the time are great company.
Enjoy your quality time and make the most of what you have and the way you live...life is generally good.
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Worthy advice Tam,look forward not back and in no time your head space will be busy dealing with new horizons.
 
monzer said:
They owe you an explanation. Pretty poor form from them in my opinion.
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Well said, dumping friends by text message is for teenagers in the school playground.

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As you’ve said Tam….rise above it fella. Life’s too short to dwell on the mysteries of human behaviour,you’ll never solve the puzzle they pose!!! Concentrate on your journey,your great van and your loyal four legged friends.

Where are you heading to next?
 
nicholsong said:
Oh dear Oh dear, what a tangled web.

I do not know any of the 'combatants' personally, so 'No Comment', except that it is not good for the forum.
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It comes from the Polish I believe - not my circus, not my monkey

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nicholsong said:
Oh dear Oh dear, what a tangled web.

I do not know any of the 'combatants' personally, so 'No Comment', except that it is not good for the forum.
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I agree but it's unfair for one party to make comments about someone's character in public but not give them the opportunity to know what the reason is and thus address it, publicly or privately. That 'slight' shouldn't have occurred on the forum and be left on it.
 
Crikey this place is worse than Facebook! Really didn't want to get dragged into all this in a public space but as you've mentioned us Tam, and people who've never met Jackie or you for that matter are jumping on the gossip wagon then we feel we need to fill in some blanks about what happened from our perspective and I think you deserve to know our feelings on the matter as perhaps it will help you in future dealings with people.

We all went over to Morocco together (Paul, Helen, Jackie, Tam, Garry and Cintia) I had hoped that being with some friends would be a positive thing for you as I'd seen your struggles online. We were there for you from the start offering help with the dogs and company. We never had any thanks from you and it was upsetting to see you turn what had been a good day into negatives at every possible turn.

Garry and Cintia were taking their time travelling down as they had a lot longer than us in Morocco so we didn't see them after the 1st day in Assiilah but we ended up camping with Jackie further South and we always kept you up to date of our location but you never joined us as you refuse to pay for guardian parking.

Jackie never talked about you and we didn't either but we discovered that she is a really lovely person.

Caring, brave and independent. We ended up spending quite a bit of time together as we have a lot in common. We still tried to keep in contact with you, stopping by your wild camp but didn't get any effort back from you to socialise.

We had our group WhatsApp where we would all keep in touch and a couple of weeks in you sent a very negative message that no one one replied to (because we were probably all a bit fed up of it. You only see your own problems and never ask after anyone else) you then promptly left the WhatsApp group. I believe this was a trigger for Garry as he had put so much time into helping you he could not believe you would flounce off because you didn't get attention for one message.

Despite this when we caught up with you in Tafroute we kept popping by, inviting you on walks and finally brought a big bag of dog food to leave with you for the pups when we were leaving and you just showed no interest in how we were or what we were doing. It's hard work interacting with someone who doesn't give back in conversation.

I don't really care about any of the he said she said stuff but seeing people invent stories about Jackie who isn't on this forum is just too much. Plain hard truth here but you are hard to be around because you take and don't give back. People give because they want to help you feel happier and when you just reward that giving with more negativity and don't pick up the signals that peoples patience is wearing thin then those people withdraw. I must add though that you withdrew 1st from the WhatsApp group and then when you were told by Garry straight up that he was upset with you blocked him. Yes he should probably have called in person but we all over rely on messaging these days.

It's really hard to say and no one wants to hurt you but you can make a positive out of all this. Build bridges and learn how to be a good friend back. I know depression can be a very selfish disease but there are things you can try to get better and blaming others is not going to help you.

Best of luck for the future. Helen and Paul.
 
Langtoftlad said:
Nothing good will come of poking the bear Minxy
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Not poking any bears, I don't like people being denied the opportunity to defend themselves.

Langtoftlad said:
They've had a falling out.
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Really? Didn't notice! 😄

Langtoftlad said:
Let's hope all of them are happy enough to continue their travelogues which I think we can all agree, we enjoy reading.
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Definitely 😎

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