Disgruntled CAMC Warden Joining Here!

[Oldwarden]

Gus Lopez raises a real valid point which applies to the CAMC exactly, but best of luck to them it's a free country, members subs = free cash

 

[Fragle]

Have been a member of the CAMC for 9 years and unfortunately have had to cancel a few bookings over the years - but single figures only.
One of the attractions of the club for me has been the non-deposit system because with caring responsibilities for a 90 year old mother-in-law and a few health issues of my own the past couple of years have been a bit challenging.
We rarely book more than a couple of weeks in advance but if non-returnable deposits are introduced I will be less inclined to do so and will just see what is available a couple of days before. If that means we will be charged more than a ‘neighbour’ who was in a position to book well in advance then I would seriously consider whether i Wanted to remain a member.

Same here. Also no point having a Motorhome where we want the flexibility to move and change plans means we need campra to get more aires sorted soon. They should just be honest and call it The Caravan club

 

[Langtoftlad]

I think the panel of the Hillsborough enquiry understood it pretty well.

You think Freemasonry was to blame for that disaster.

Oh, wow, just oh wow.

 

[monzer]

You think Freemasonry was to blame for that disaster.

Oh, wow, just oh wow.

No of course not but there was a huge problem with high up police officers covering up for their buddies who were also 'on the square'.

 

[tonyidle]

Like building societies then?!

Cheers James

No idea. But most decent sized clubs end up as limited companies. Possibly protects those who manage the funds. I'm a long-term member of a car club that became a limited company as it grew. It isn't huge - perhaps 2000 members

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[Langtoftlad]

No of course not but there was a huge problem with high up police officers covering up for their buddies who were also 'on the square'.

I suspect, but don't know, the culture was to "have your back", because as coppers, you stick together.
I'd be surprised if freemasonry featured.

Edited:
As cabin crew for 30+ years, the culture was that whatever happened downroute stayed downpour. Management back at base weren't involved nor informed.
It may have been wrong...but that's how it was.

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

Same here. Also no point having a Motorhome where we want the flexibility to move and change plans means we need campra to get more aires sorted soon. They should just be honest and call it The Caravan club

And of course campra and Britstops and all the other non affiliated sites are clubs? They don’t make money out of what they are doing?

 

[tonyidle]

You think Freemasonry was to blame for that disaster.

Oh, wow, just oh wow.

I was invited to join the Freemasons in the '80s. I was given a load of information to help me decide whether it was for me. There were a few aspects of membership that I wasn't keen on (like having to be smartly dressed for various functions). The final straw for me was that it involved a fair bit of god-bothering. However I couldn't see anything but good in their activities and the money they raise for some very good causes would be hard to match by any Society.

 

[Langtoftlad]

God b

I was invited to join the Freemasons in the '80s. I was given a load of information to help me decide whether it was for me. There were a few aspects of membership that I wasn't keen on (like having to be smartly dressed for various functions). The final straw for me was that it involved a fair bit of god-bothering. However I couldn't see anything but good in their activities and the money they raise for some very good causes would be hard to match by any Society.

God bothering is non religion specific, just an acceptance of a higher power... definition of that is up to you.

 

[Fragle]

And of course campra and Britstops and all the other non affiliated sites are clubs? They don’t make money out of what they are doing?

For me. Flexibility is what they give to Motorhome users

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[monzer]

I'd be surprised if freemasonry featured.

I wouldn't be. I seem to remember police witnesses at that enquiry were legally bound to disclose if they were masons or not. That doesn't happen unless there is serious trust issues there.

 

[tonyidle]

there is more than one way to skin a cat?
So no shareholders , ideal!
High salaries, good employer pension payments, company vehicles, full expense accounts,etc;etc,.

See para: 2

Personal message from the Director General – Nick Lomas

www.caravanclub.co.uk

 

[tonyidle]

God b

God bothering is non religion specific, just an acceptance of a higher power... definition of that is up to you.

I can't define something I don't accept.

 

[62272]

I thought the thread was about the disgruntled CAMC warden spilling the beans… suddenly there is a parallel discusion about freemasons and hillsborough…. Most weird!!

 

[Langtoftlad]

Freemasonry, a society of secrets, not a secret society .
Majority of masons will answer any questions.
If the police covered up, it was because the police watched their own backs - for good or ill.

Freemasonry, IMO, is a convenient conspiracy to

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[Two on Tour]

I thought the thread was about the disgruntled CAMC warden spilling the beans… suddenly there is a parallel discusion about freemasons and hillsborough…. Most weird!!

This is Motorhome Fun after all, nothing weird, perfectly normal, in fact it would be weird if a thread did not go off on a tangent.

 

[62272]

This is Motorhome Fun after all, nothing weird, perfectly normal, in fact it would be weird if a thread did not go off on a tangent.

No comment

 

[John Barrett]

I was invited to join the Freemasons in the '80s. I was given a load of information to help me decide whether it was for me. There were a few aspects of membership that I wasn't keen on (like having to be smartly dressed for various functions). The final straw for me was that it involved a fair bit of god-bothering. However I couldn't see anything but good in their activities and the money they raise for some very good causes would be hard to match by any Society.

I was invited by friends shortly after I lost my boy. Our Gloucester group was composed of accountants, directors and consultants. Great conversations, no God bothering, and the 'Firings' toasts at dinner were quite fantastic! I then met Jan and moved away, so I just kept the secrets to myself and continued to enjoy life...

 

[Langtoftlad]

I can't define something I don't accept.

It was a long time ago but I think you didn't have to affirm there the was a higher being, just accept the possibility.

I thought the thread was about the disgruntled CAMC warden spilling the beans… suddenly there is a parallel discusion about freemasons and hillsborough…. Most weird!!

This is MHF, interesting threads inevitably go off on a tangent .

 

[Jasz]

I also have no problem with deposits, at the moment it's too easy for people to book and later cancel.
I like the improved late booking site where you can now see availability up to 2 weeks ahead. I booked the Buxton site for this weekend, a week ago but there was no space on the Friday - 2 days later there was so I then made a second booking of that day.

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[BillyKontiki]

In the words of the song .
( Welcome to the house of fun )
Look forward to chewing some fat, never met a bad or unfriendly warden yet.
Maybe some jobsworths but Ha Ho.

 

[Northernraider]

See i knew the masons would be more interesting ...still not heard about this frog though

 

[Peppadog]

I might have missed something interesting, but I couldn’t get beyond page 6.

I am delighted to hear the op has resigned. He is clearly unsuitable for the roll his employer wants fullfilled. I am no longer a member of that club ( left a few years ago due to site unavailability), so luckily I won’t have to suffer his second hand angst in person.

He’ll be telling us how crap this forum is soon I expect?

 

[minesapint]

As for the old ,"transferable skills" chestnut mmmmmm wouldn't let a plumber stich me up in hospital would you?

Of course not because a plumber doesn't have the necessary skills, whereas leadership and management skills are transferable.

I can see you're an unhappy warden, Oldwarden! Perhaps time to move on? We've used a few club sites this year. I always make a point of chatting to the site managers and thanking them for their hard work. To be honest the ones I spoke to, seemed okay

Went on one CMC site that has over 150 pitches with only 8 hard standing pitches. The attitude by the warder on reception seemed rather grumpy and fed up.. We drove round the very hilly site to try and find a fairly level pitch, looking at caravans with trolley Jack's under them to try to get level. Not a good advert, but the site was always busy so probably did not get a good budget to upgrade pitches, as a good revenue stream was already there.

 

[Grumpyfrog]

See i knew the masons would be more interesting ...still not heard about this frog though

I can promise that no hairy Freemason would get to lick me!

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[minesapint]

As for the old ,"transferable skills" chestnut mmmmmm wouldn't let a plumber stich me up in hospital would you?

Of course not because a plumber doesn't have the necessary skills, whereas leadership and management skills are transferable.

I can see you're an unhappy warden, Oldwarden! Perhaps time to move on? We've used a few club sites this year. I always make a point of chatting to the site managers and thanking them for their hard work. To be honest the ones I spoke to, seemed okay

Went on one CMC site that has over 150 pitches with only 8 hard standing pitches. The attitude by the warden on reception seemed rather grumpy and fed up.. We drove round the very hilly site to try and find a fairly level pitch, looking at caravans with trolley Jack's under them to try to get level. Not a good advert, but the site was always busy so probably did not get a good budget to upgrade pitches, as a good revenue stream was already there. Our pitch was devoid of grass and as such was pure mud, but we were not allowed to move sideways a few feet to escape the mud as the peg was there.

 

[L' Hobo]

I've got some stonework that needs doing, I never object to free labour.

As an ex-Freemason, I can give you free ADVICE but labouring.....nah!

 

[L' Hobo]

I can promise that no hairy Freemason would get to lick me!

Don't be too hasty, there is supposed to be 4,700 FEMALE Freemasons......IF their hairy......

 

[Neil S]

The CCC take a deposit when booking and the balance due the morning of arrival automatically.
I don't read many complaints about them doing this.
The ability to block book CMC sites for the whole year ahead and cancel at short notice without penalty no doubt affects online availability of bookings.

I think the taking of a deposit at booking and the ability to transfer that deposit if a reasonable amount of notice is given of cancellation would be fine. Of course cancellation for compassionate grounds should be accepted.

When you say block book do you mean booking two different sites on the same day ?

 

[Neil S]

Went on one CMC site that has over 150 pitches with only 8 hard standing pitches. The attitude by the warden on reception seemed rather grumpy and fed up.. We drove round the very hilly site to try and find a fairly level pitch, looking at caravans with trolley Jack's under them to try to get level. Not a good advert, but the site was always busy so probably did not get a good budget to upgrade pitches, as a good revenue stream was already there. Our pitch was devoid of grass and as such was pure mud, but we were not allowed to move sideways a few feet to escape the mud as the peg was there.

Which site is that

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