CritAir, how many bother with it? (2 Viewers)

[funflair]

So the only way they can get your details these days is a formalmapplication to DVLA or if you've volunteered them during the application process.

We do a lot in France, we're here right now and I currently think its better not to. Most of the indigenous camping caristes seem to agree with me as very few of them are displaying it.

Of course there are a few places I cant go, but they tend to be places I dont go anyway.

With Rouen funflair through the tunnel over the river and 270° right turn and out to cow island is outside the zone. Or you might enjoy a stop by the river at La Mailleraye via Yvetot pont de Brotonne as we're increasingly using.

Edit, we are seeing more larger CCs with Angles Mortes stickers on.

Hi Jon, I didn't ask you first as I knew the answer yes the direct route through Rouen used to be outside the zone but not anymore as far as I can see on the green zones app, as you say though the places you really need it are places you don't want to be anyway.

 

[Just smiffy]

I believe they can refuse entry next time if they feel inclined or refuse access to the ferry or train until all fines paid. I wouldn't risk it for the sake of a fiver.

How does the French border control know you have a fine for not having a sticker ? Did you hear that from Facebook…

 

[Grasmere9]

Buy it once, stick it in your window, forget about it! Job done

 

[funflair]

Martin, I don’t know about France (yes I do have a crit air tho) but I’ve been through German cities, Wiesbaden and Munich where I’ve seen portable cameras set up to check the windscreens for the green ticket!!
Austria (I know you’re not going there) there is a requirement for you to have a pickerl sticker if you’ve got an N on the logbook (phgv or truck chassis derived motorhome) and yes that would include van conversions (under 3.5t) that haven’t been re registered as a motor caravan!!
It’s a minefield over there

We have nothing on the V5 log book other than PHGV, N2 on the original chassis C of C.

Anyway thank you everybody for your advice I have relented and have spent the last of this months pension on a nice yellow crit air, I knew there was a reason why A class had big windscreen it's to give space for all the stickers and boxes.

 

[Brains]

We had both the French and German ones so cheap why wouldn't you.

This ^^^!

As I was about to say .....

Little effort
Little cost
Lasts the life of the windscreen
Could save you a big fine.

What would you not do it ?
No Brainer

(Just make sure you get from the correct sites, as several dummy sites out there)

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[Just smiffy]

I’m sure most know my views on stickers….

I’ve been stood in front of my van with a copper in a restricted zone with no uk or crit air while I specifically ask him and he gave me the garlic shrug…

If you apply for all these things and give them your names and address then they’ve got ya…

 

[gus-lopez]

So the only way they can get your details these days is a formalmapplication to DVLA or if you've volunteered them during the application process.

Or they ask the French company that operates the Dartford crossing if they hold details. Or use EPCplc, a European wide compan that operates many emissions based sites in most European countries, as well as being debt enforcers for many parking companies, if they hold your details .

With Rouen @funflair through the tunnel over the river and 270° right turn and out to cow island is outside the zone.

As far as I know all Rouen is inside the zone .

 

[jongood]

We had both the French and German ones so cheap why wouldn't you.

#27 you are volunteering your details

 

[jongood]

I believe they can refuse entry next time if they feel inclined or refuse access to the ferry or train until all fines paid. I wouldn't risk it for the sake of a fiver.

And have you ever known anyone thats happened to. I havent.

 

[JockandRita]

We have both Martin

We have both too.

funflair. Same here Marttin. We had to bin your Umwelt Placket for a new one at Zell, when we changed the Reg No.

Having fixed stickers to the screen, only to have it cracked and replaced shortly after, (Hymer), I now laminate them and place them in tax disc/permit holders.

Maybe not legit in German/French speak, but at least they are displayed, and available if needed for a replacement screen.

Cheers,

Jock.

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[jongood]

Or they ask the French company that operates the Dartford crossing if they hold details. Or use EPCplc, a European wide compan that operates many emissions based sites in most European countries, as well as being debt enforcers for many parking companies, if they hold your details .

As far as I know all Rouen is inside the zone .

I went through it twice last year and heard nothing yet.

 

[WESTY66]

The way it’s going over there they will have to a, harmonise everything to make life easier, or b, make it that difficult that no one will bother going over!
Changes are a coming, Germany next……watch this space

 

[funflair]

I went through it twice last year and heard nothing yet.

And I don't honestly think you will ever.

 

[jongood]

This is interesting

Le Pass ZFE-m 24h | zfe

zfe.metropole-rouen-normandie.fr

Not that Im going to bother until I actually recieve a fine anyway though

 

[Richard n Ann]

Are they using ANPR cameras?
Or are the stickers for if you get pulled up the police can see if your vehicle isn't allowed?

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[Ditcha]

I just give my plates a quick spray of this before I head off job done

https://www.fruugo.co.uk/car-plate-number-invisible-speed-camera-deterrent-easy-to-use-long-lasting-plate-privacy/p-309724885-693212162?language=en&ac=croud&asc=pmax&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw4_K0BhBsEiwAfVVZ_3MHlZ8u2spThlvjr1xSOwfOfrd6tbXXS6akW5Bt5ZfH2eCX7JZmghoCniYQAvD_BwE

 

[Just smiffy]

Are they using ANPR cameras?
Or are the stickers for if you get pulled up the police can see if your vehicle isn't allowed?

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[Brains]

#27 you are volunteering your details

From memory they don't ask for your name and address except to send you the stickers.
So if you are that bothered, send them to a friend/neighbour.

However in the event of the local authorities actually needing your details, roughly how many seconds do you think it would take a French or German traffic cop to get your full details from your numberplate ?

(As an FYI, I know first hand a UK traffic cop can get Polish driver details in the time it takes to pull you over and get to the drivers door. IE under 2 minutes)

I agree fines are a different issue, however as the EU registered vehicles not paying the ULEZ/Dart Charge have found, there are ways for any private company in the UK to fine anyone in the EU and vice versa.

 

[Fontie]

I somehow ended up driving through Rouen couple of years ago, I was glad I had got a CritAir. Like others have said for what it costs worth getting just in case.

 

[The Coops]

I just give my plates a quick spray of this before I head off job done

https://www.fruugo.co.uk/car-plate-number-invisible-speed-camera-deterrent-easy-to-use-long-lasting-plate-privacy/p-309724885-693212162?language=en&ac=croud&asc=pmax&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw4_K0BhBsEiwAfVVZ_3MHlZ8u2spThlvjr1xSOwfOfrd6tbXXS6akW5Bt5ZfH2eCX7JZmghoCniYQAvD_BwE

snake oil, just reverse the negative on the digital picture and the numbers stand out!

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[HKF]

You might not plan to go through any of the zones but what if you end up on a detour? Or need to find a dealer for a replacement part? Or you need towing to a zone following a breakdown or accident? For the small amount it costs, why risk not having one?

 

[Ditcha]

snake oil, just reverse the negative on the digital picture and the numbers stand out!

It's worked so far flashed loads of times doing 60 in a 30 no tickets yet you need to get onto them and tell them your secret

 

[The Coops]

It's worked so far flashed loads of times doing 60 in a 30 no tickets yet you need to get onto them and tell them your secret

Just because it flashed doesn't mean the camera is on or in the box!

 

[funflair]

This is interesting

Le Pass ZFE-m 24h | zfe

zfe.metropole-rouen-normandie.fr

Not that Im going to bother until I actually recieve a fine anyway though

So it's not really about air quality

 

[Ditcha]

Just because it flashed doesn't mean the camera is on or in the box!

The camera was working my mate was behind and got a ticket they tracked him down cause he had registered for critair

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[Boldly]

How does the French border control know you have a fine for not having a sticker ? Did you hear that from Facebook…

Not on Facebook but I believe the French have recently learnt how to use anpr cameras and computers. Would be strange if they would let Johnny foreigners off with speeding and the like if they didn't have to.
Maybe we should try it.

And have you ever known anyone thats happened to. I havent.

I don't know of anyone no.
But I don't know anyone with a morelo either but I'm sure they exist.

 

[Oldrat]

Yep.
Cheap as chips
Easy to do
Did the German Umwelt too.

If you might need them, why on earth not?

 

[Boldly]

With regard to not wanting to give your details. How do you get to France?
Le Shuttle French
Brittany Ferries French
Transmanche/DFDS French
Only Irish Ferries not French and they are in EU so will pass on details anyway.

 

[Just smiffy]

With regard to not wanting to give your details. How do you get to France?
Le Shuttle French
Brittany Ferries French
Transmanche/DFDS French
Only Irish Ferries not French and they are in EU so will pass on details anyway.

Only name and reg of vehicle given on ferry crossing, no address at all….

 

[The Wino]

#27 you are volunteering your details

So who has it ever disadvantaged?

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