CritAir, how many bother with it?

[funflair]

Just pondering whether or not to register the only zone we might go near would be Rouen and then that would just be straight through, do most people get one and has anybody ever been stopped and fined for not having one inside a Zone?

 

[maison]

For what it costs, about £5 I think, it’s worth having it. You only pay once for as long as you own that vehicle.

There are many more “Green” zones popping up over France. Some are variable, ie current one day, not needed the next, depending on pollution levels which makes it difficult to be absolutely sure that you are OK without constantly checking.

Are you likely to be stopped and fined as a specific check for the Certificate? I wouldn’t think so but, if you are stopped in a routine check or have an accident while in a zone, it would probably be picked up then.

 

[BillandHelen]

For the few pounds it cost, we got one’s for France and Germany, don’t think we will need them but given the continual expansion you never know.

 

[DavidG58]

We are going next Spring and I don’t and won’t be, no Angles Mortes stickers either

Reminds me of the days when we were supposed to paint our headlights yellow , didn’t do that either

 

[funflair]

For the few pounds it cost, we got one’s for France and Germany, don’t think we will need them but given the continual expansion you never know.

I was wavering towards getting one but as a Private HGV we would be category N2 on their application, so declaring ourselves to be a "goods vehicle" if there was a motorhome category I might be more tempted.

We are going next Spring and I don’t and won’t be, no Angles Mortes stickers either

Reminds me of the days when we were supposed to paint our headlights yellow , didn’t do that either

And carry a breathalyser I have the Angles Mortes though so half way there

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[Grianan]

We got the CritAir and the German one. Bit of a no brainier as so cheap.
Ended up being a good thing as my satnav went wild and took me through centre of Paris - on banks of the Seine. Thank goodness it was a Sunday!

 

[olley]

Got one for the Winnie, sent a picture in of the LPG conversion certificate and log book, came back as a 1. Surprised as I only got a 3 for the German umwelt sticker

 

[Pantouffle]

Worth it for when there’s ‘multiple traffic events’ as our Sat Nav calls them. You then have the option of rerouting through an environmental zone if that’s what the lady in the machine suggests is best.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Nope not bothered with any for France or Germany or anywhere else, been to a fair few places without any problems.

 

[olley]

This from Google:
Yes, cameras in France use license plate recognition (LPR) to read Crit'Air stickers on vehicles entering low emission zones (LEZ).

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[carolyn]

We have for all our vans so far and as soon as our V5 arrives I’ll be ordering them for this new van. Cheap as chips and then we don’t have to worry. Might not arrive in time for first trip mind!

 

[G7UXG]

I’ve got them for France and Germany but, as with the Angles Mort stickers, they’re in the glove box !

 

[nicholsong]

I think there is some confusion about what one can infringe by not having one.

Firstly, there is the requirement to have one if one enters any zone which may at sometime be activated, whether it is so activated at the time.

Secondly, there is the offence of entering an active emissions zone, including the permanent ones like Paris, without having a CritAir sticker appropriate for the class that is permitted to enter at that time.

I assume the penalties for these different offences are also different.

I also suspect that enforcement of the first category is less stringent.

 

[Fdhadi]

I have both the CritAir and German Umwelt stickers.
They are still on the letters they came stuck on and placed in the glove box.

Went into the centre of Rouen a couple of weeks ago so just put the letter with the yellow sticker facing upwards. Removed it as soon as we were out of the city.

I don’t do stickers in windows.

 

[Abacist]

We have both Martin

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[G-RMPS]

We have both too. I don't think we have ever entered a zone that requires one or t'other.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Had one for years but don't really understand it how does a sticker improve air quality? Do they send you a bill or what?

 

[funflair]

Had one for years but don't really understand it how does a sticker improve air quality? Do they send you a bill or what?

good point,

 

[rod_vw]

If you decide to get these be sure to use the official websites to avoid getting ripped off!

France -- Crit'Air -- https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/

Germany -- Umweltplakette -- https://www.berlin.de/labo/mobilitaet/kfz-zulassung/feinstaubplakette/shop.86595.en.php (Berlin local authority)

We've had both on our vehicles for years now, valid for the life of the vehicle unless you change the registration mark i.e. personal plates etc.

 

[G7UXG]

It’s easy enough to get the German one, take your V5 to a TUV station and they’ll write one for 5 or 6 euros. some town halls also issue them and I think many garages can too.

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[Garfields]

Had one for years but don't really understand it how does a sticker improve air quality? Do they send you a bill or what?

 

[Abacist]

Surely it’s the vans without stickers that get penalised or have I had them so long I’ve forgotten?

 

[Reallyretired]

I have a crit air. Its faded in the sun so hardly readable but it's there.

 

[Richard n Ann]

I have a crit air. Its faded in the sun so hardly readable but it's there.

Mine probably has now, I remember it's a yellow colour class 2, I kept the receipt too somewhere

 

[Orion]

I was wavering towards getting one but as a Private HGV we would be category N2 on their application, so declaring ourselves to be a "goods vehicle" if there was a motorhome category I might be more tempted.

We are PHGV (U.K. taxation class) and M1 - as are the majority of motorhomes with the ‘Motor Caravan’ designation on the V5C - so also M1 under the Euro ( and U.K.) classifications It’s their website which doesn’t make it clear by referring to M1 as ‘passenger cars’ instead of ‘vehicles used for the carriage of passengers’. I used M1 on the application and the sticker arrived a week or so later.

Vehicle Certification Agency

The VCA's classification of power-driven vehicles, trailers, special purpose vehicles, agricultural vehicles and non-road mobile machinery.

www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk

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[funflair]

We are PHGV (U.K. taxation class) and M1 - as are the majority of motorhomes with the ‘Motor Caravan’ designation on the V5C - so also M1 under the Euro ( and U.K.) classifications It’s their website which doesn’t make it clear by referring to M1 as ‘passenger cars’ instead of ‘vehicles used for the carriage of passengers’. I used M1 on the application and the sticker arrived a week or so later.

Vehicle Certification Agency

The VCA's classification of power-driven vehicles, trailers, special purpose vehicles, agricultural vehicles and non-road mobile machinery.

www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk

That useful thanks, our V5 has nothing in the classification box and our C of C says N2 but that is for the original chassis which is commercial, I might give it a go at M1, if we don't get one my navigator will just worry.

 

[jongood]

This from Google:
Yes, cameras in France use license plate recognition (LPR) to read Crit'Air stickers on vehicles entering low emission zones (LEZ).

So the only way they can get your details these days is a formalmapplication to DVLA or if you've volunteered them during the application process.

We do a lot in France, we're here right now and I currently think its better not to. Most of the indigenous camping caristes seem to agree with me as very few of them are displaying it.

Of course there are a few places I cant go, but they tend to be places I dont go anyway.

With Rouen funflair through the tunnel over the river and 270° right turn and out to cow island is outside the zone. Or you might enjoy a stop by the river at La Mailleraye via Yvetot pont de Brotonne as we're increasingly using.

Edit, we are seeing more larger CCs with Angles Mortes stickers on.

 

[WESTY66]

Martin, I don’t know about France (yes I do have a crit air tho) but I’ve been through German cities, Wiesbaden and Munich where I’ve seen portable cameras set up to check the windscreens for the green ticket!!
Austria (I know you’re not going there) there is a requirement for you to have a pickerl sticker if you’ve got an N on the logbook (phgv or truck chassis derived motorhome) and yes that would include van conversions (under 3.5t) that haven’t been re registered as a motor caravan!!
It’s a minefield over there

 

[Boldly]

So the only way they can get your details these days is a formalmapplication to DVLA or if you've volunteered them during the application process.

We do a lot in France, we're here right now and I currently think its better not to. Most of the indigenous camping caristes seem to agree with me as very few of them are displaying it.

Of course there are a few places I cant go, but they tend to be places I dont go anyway.

With Rouen funflair through the tunnel over the river and 270° right turn and out to cow island is outside the zone. Or you might enjoy a stop by the river at La Mailleraye via Yvetot pont de Brotonne as we're increasingly using.

Edit, we are seeing more larger CCs with Angles Mortes stickers on.

I believe they can refuse entry next time if they feel inclined or refuse access to the ferry or train until all fines paid. I wouldn't risk it for the sake of a fiver.

 

[The Wino]

We had both the French and German ones so cheap why wouldn't you.

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