Caravan and Motorhome Club price hikes.

[MarionK]

Please explain where the money goes then!
It is not a non profit organisation, it is run as a commercial operation for the benefit of members.
No dividends are paid, profits are re invested for the benefit of members.

I misread somewhat. You are right: It is NOT a non profit organisation.
I can't find where you are getting the rest of your information. NON profit organisations are run as you say. CAMC is actually a limited company.

 

[nev robinson]

Baltic Wharf has been closing down for the last 12 years that I know of

Bit like Crystal Palace then

 

[Janine]

For me, it's all about location, location, location.
CL's tend to be in remote rural locations, which is not where I want to be.
I don't want to have to drive to an attraction or a pub for lunch.

As a solo with a dog - commercial site pricing is unattractive. "Price includes 2 adults", then have to pay extra for the dog.
A lot of CL's have pushed their prices up so as to be similar to a full facility club site with pitch fee + per person pricing.
For example - Happyford CL near Louth is £20/night...
I had Berwick CAMC booked in April for £20.60/night, Bridlington in June for £25.60 [the Thorpe Hall Estate mentioned above would have cost £33pn for the same period]

Absolutely!

On the privately owned site in Wallingford where my son used to fulltime, he and his girlfriend paid £20 a night in low season. Because I have a dog, I had to pay £22!

Cheapest I have stayed on was a C&CC site, Ebury Hill near Shrewsbury, @£5.61 a night.

 

[frenchie 79]

We are off to Bristol at the weekend. I was already thinking it was a rip off at £45 per night for 2 people. Only going because its where I grew up and the site is shutting soon.

Just received an email to say they are increasing prices due to electricity costs. not only that - they are asking us not to use the electricity as much as possible!!! (please use your solar instead!)

Back to CL sites in future.

 

[Swiss]

I misread somewhat. You are right: It is NOT a non profit organisation.
I can't find where you are getting the rest of your information. NON profit organisations are run as you say. CAMC is actually a limited company.

What is your point, this does not stop it operating as a "not for profit" business, it just removes personal liability issues.

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[bexleyjohn]

Whichever way you look at it, the C&MC site fees are high, especially in July and August. What makes matters worse is they even if you wanted to stay, many are fully booked months in advance - so high prices with people willing to pay will mean even higher prices. As a member for almost 40 years I am staggered and very disappointed at the way prices have gone.
I now look for well placed CLs before even considering club sites.

 

[iandsm]

You doubt my figures. You have no idea the size of my parks and yes we are charged commercial rates on water gas and electric. I didn't include water figures and we are charged per cubic meter. There is no cap on LPG and oil

As I said I don't doubt you figures. and no, I have no idea of your size which is why I asked. I was simply trying to get some insight into the business end as opposed to the user end.I Just wanted to get some idea of your size so I could compare with similar. But thank you for the further information at post 238.

 

[Kybod]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here or elsewhere on the forum. It appears the CMC are dropping their mid week discount scheme from the start of next year. The number of sites it has been availble at has dwindled in recent years, however its gone completely in 2023. Will it be replaced with something else ?
Mike

 

[Neil S]

I appreciate your extra huge price hikes to operate a good service and fully understand why the prices of pitches are going up which to me are not unreasonable. But where do you stand when it comes to charging extra for putting your awning up on your pitch that you are paying for already.

Do either clubs charge for awnings ?

 

[Langtoftlad]

Do either clubs charge for awnings ?

Not as far as I'm aware... you just get a bigger pitch.

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[tonyandcarol]

Not sure doubt it mainly privately own sites.

 

[minesapint]

Non Profit Organisation for the benefit of it members...
YEA RIGHT!!!!!

They have got to pay for all the empty tents, pods, glamping huts they are putting up everywhere.

The club seems to have lost its way a bit.

Not so Caravan and Motorhome club any more, more like anybody who will pay club.

 

[tonyandcarol]

We don't charge extra for an awning. We do for extra people. Costs and use of showers etc. We don't charge extra for an extra car or scooter. But I will elaborate just slightly on some costs. I developed a seven acre green field park. 60 pitches. Without costings for lawn mowers toilet block staff chemicals, the list goes on. Just for the cost of water services, stands pipe, electric supply cables and hook up points, sewage treatment plant and chemical waste storage, roads and pitches all hard standing (gravel) I spent £820000. The season is April to October and only full during main season. Truth be told £40 a night is a bargain but we have to charge the local going rate. I am often surprised when I hear people (motoring is still my hobby) say to me £30 - £40 a night just for a piece of grass. It really isn't just a piece of grass

I totally agree with your running costs. I have paid up to £70 a night on some sites in the South but we new before we paid and it was in school holidays when the girls were younger. On a personal note I don't moan about the cost of a pitch everyone has to make a living.

 

[MarionK]

What is your point, this does not stop it operating as a "not for profit" business, it just removes personal liability issues.

My point is: Non profit organisations have to make their accounts available to the public, limited companies don't.

I can't find anything that actually shows where their money goes. I can't find anything that says they act as a non profit either. Why do you think that they do? (A link would do nicely tia.)

ETA I am talking specifically about CAMC, I have no quibble with anyone running their own site. ( I don't even have one with CAMC either actually, it is what it is, and I am quite capable of voting with my feet.)

 

[Ukbandit]

As a park owner I’d like to just give one set of figures. My gas and electricity bill for June 21 for one month was 4K. This June 11k. I’ll just leave that there

Yes but do you offer non electric pitches I’ve invested a lot in solar and don’t expect to be charged for something I won’t use.

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[peterc10]

My point is: Non profit organisations have to make their accounts available to the public, limited companies don't.

Yes they do.

Search for Companies House.

Edit, "Non profit" organisations are called Charities in the UK and are regulated by the Charity Commission. The main benefit is that they get tax benefits because of their status. A charity can be a limited company as well.

 

[Bucket]

We are off to Bristol at the weekend. I was already thinking it was a rip off at £45 per night for 2 people. Only going because its where I grew up and the site is shutting soon.

Just received an email to say they are increasing prices due to electricity costs. not only that - they are asking us not to use the electricity as much as possible!!! (please use your solar instead!)

Back to CL sites in future.

My recommendation is park at Bath and either cycle or bus/train to Bristol. If the latter the campsite is right on the very pretty cycle path.
I have recently moved from Bath to Bristol and can confirm your options are very limited. There are some places just outside though.

 

[VXman]

My recommendation is park at Bath and either cycle or bus/train to Bristol. If the latter the campsite is right on the very pretty cycle path.
I have recently moved from Bath to Bristol and can confirm your options are very limited. There are some places just outside though.

On reflection, after visiting this site I decided it wasn't too bad after all. I think given the quality of the site and particularly it's location it was worth paying £45. Nice being in the middle of things and not having to travel in/out.

 

[Spriddler]

Yes but do you offer non electric pitches I’ve invested a lot in solar and don’t expect to be charged for something I won’t use.

If not, you evidently don't fall within their target market.

 

[Rick Axon]

I would want breakfast included for that!

And beer.

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[Ian.s]

Yes but do you offer non electric pitches I’ve invested a lot in solar and don’t expect to be charged for something I won’t use.

Yes we do

 

[Trout bum]

It's not as bad as it sounds. We are missing a lot of independent sites that have sold to build houses, or are now full of statics. This does give the two big clubs the space to operate a duopoly and can put prices up at will.

However the UK's CL network is growing really fast. Motorhomefun have exempted 22 this year just in Scotland, and we are just one of a number of exempting organisations.

Already we have French people telling us how good our CL system is, a few more years, a few more enlightened councils and we'll see French camping cars sitting in their dusty Aires waxing lyrical about the superb camping facilities they have over there in the UK.

Where can we get a list of CL sites

 

[Spriddler]

Where can we get a list of CL sites

In the CAMC and CCC guide book or on their websites if you're a subscriber to those clubs.
The Fun CL's are listed somewhere on the Fun website but I've not been able to find where they are shown.

 

[nev robinson]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here or elsewhere on the forum. It appears the CMC are dropping their mid week discount scheme from the start of next year. The number of sites it has been availble at has dwindled in recent years, however its gone completely in 2023. Will it be replaced with something else ?
Mike

A mid week price rise,just to even things up…

 

[Quackers]

In the CAMC and CCC guide book or on their websites if you're a subscriber to those clubs.
The Fun CL's are listed somewhere on the Fun website but I've not been able to find where they are shown.

For the Fun CLs have a look under the Local Guide.
You may spot Woodside Field (M4 Junction 18 Bristol Bath) Only £12.50 a night here. Currently full with Funsters enjoying the Anniversary Rally.

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[peterc10]

For the Fun CLs have a look under the Local Guide.

Not many listed there Only 4 in the dedicated part of the guide

 

[cyberyacht]

For me, it's all about location, location, location.
CL's tend to be in remote rural locations, which is not where I want to be.
I don't want to have to drive to an attraction or a pub for lunch.

A fair number, probably the majority, of CAMC sites aren't exactly at the heart of the action either. If they were, perhaps they could justify the prices they charge.

As for getting us to reduce electricity consumption - what about a non EHU option for a reduced price?

 

[Langtoftlad]

A fair number, probably the majority, of CAMC sites aren't exactly at the heart of the action either. If they were, perhaps they could justify the prices they charge.

But the ones I visit are
And as the rest of my post goes onto say - their prices are, for me, usually better or equal to independent/CL

 

[cyberyacht]

But the ones I visit are
And as the rest of my post goes onto say - their prices are, for me, usually better or equal to independent/CL

You travel alone IIRC and this tilts it in your favour. For those of us who don't, it is more expensive.

 

[Langtoftlad]

You travel alone IIRC and this tilts it in your favour. For those of us who don't, it is more expensive.

Err, that was the point I was making

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