CAN'T AFFORD A TESLA

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Silver-Fox said:
Does anyone have an idea what the convention costs are for a classic car turned to an electric one.

I wonder if that’s the way to go 🤷‍♂️
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Around £25,000 to £45,000 depending on range needed and the size of the vehicle.
 
Puddleduck said:
I'd be interested in that as well. Scraping a car with solid "underwear" and bodywork just because it's not electric just seems wrong to me.
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Wrong to us but right to the great consumer providers 🙄

We must remember all this ev push is nothing to do with the environment but all to do with the bottom line.

Making money and that will never change 🤷‍♂️
 
Here's a sound bite for you all:

There's a whole host of charging networks and charge stations that have dropped out/failed in the SE/Tavistock area of the country today so there's now EVs having to be recovered because eight consecutive charge point locations are off-line.

It's OK trying to flood the market with new EVs but in reality the UK charge network is still crap and requires huge investment.

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If the build quality of the ORA is anything like the MG I certainly would not consider one. Chinese Cars are cheap for a reason.
 
Blue Knight said:
Here's a sound bite for you all:

There's a whole host of charging networks and charge stations that have dropped out/failed in the SE/Tavistock area of the country today so there's now EVs having to be recovered because eight consecutive charge point locations are off-line.

It's OK trying to flood the market with new EVs but in reality the UK charge network is still crap and requires huge investment.
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Suddenly, self-charging hybrids look attractive ... :cool:
 
The charging points in Kelso Woodmarket have been out of order for at least a week.
 
I am avoiding chinese made rechargeable batteries if I can, from now on, after my cheap (wish) solar powered lights exploded this summer.
 
Personally i think the basic ORA could be a game changer if marketed aggressively.
Lets say the ORA by the time it gets to the UK is sold at a fixed no haggle price of 10k. Then marketed with 0% finance on a PCP over 36 months including Free insurance to attract younger buyers.
With a 50% residual value over 3years and a deposit from the customer of £1000 the car could be sold for £111.00 per month.
If they want to dominate the small car market they could with this car.
 
Electric cars need a decent heating system in the UK.

Wonder if they've considered a propane system, the one in our van would work very well in a car. I know we're back to fossil fuels again but a 6kg bottle would probably last a while 🤔
 
Wondering star said:
Personally i think the basic ORA could be a game changer if marketed aggressively.
Lets say the ORA by the time it gets to the UK is sold at a fixed no haggle price of 10k. Then marketed with 0% finance on a PCP over 36 months including Free insurance to attract younger buyers.
With a 50% residual value over 3years and a deposit from the customer of £1000 the car could be sold for £111.00 per month.
If they want to dominate the small car market they could with this car.
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Once you've added import duties and VAT, it's going to be nearer £150 per month. At that point, it's not that much cheaper than a Renault Zoe.

The original thing about this though is they've managed to get the weight and size down. Which means they can make the expensive battery considerably smaller, which makes it cheaper. I wonder if it'll meet our crash standards?

I do agree about the potential for winning the market though. Electric cars are turning the tide on the big German brands, which I think have become a bit bloated and lazy. We're prepared to accept that Tesla and Hyundai can make cars that are just as desirable as the old guard.

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Guigsy said:
But you can still charge at home. Petrol stations were out nationwide a few weeks ago.
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Plenty of fuel here, no shortage at all :)

I don't have an electric car (they aren't suitable for us at the moment) and we also have infrastructure issues in this area - just waiting to find out if / when we can have a battery fitted for the house as there is a risk of blackouts and we use medical equipment.
 
Richard n Ann said:
Electric cars need a decent heating system in the UK.

Wonder if they've considered a propane system, the one in our van would work very well in a car. I know we're back to fossil fuels again but a 6kg bottle would probably last a while 🤔
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The secret is you set the car to pre-heat (cabin and batteries) while it's still plugged in. They you rely on heated seats and heated steering wheels, which require far less power.
 
What is going to happen to electric vehicles when the battery pack has reached the end of its life.
Are they replaceable and how long do they last.
 
Puddleduck said:
Plenty of fuel here, no shortage at all :)

I don't have an electric car (they aren't suitable for us at the moment) and we also have infrastructure issues in this area - just waiting to find out if / when we can have a battery fitted for the house as there is a risk of blackouts and we use medical equipment.
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You could use the car as a battery.
 
Guigsy said:
Car batteries are pretty huge. A Tesla Powerwall is 13.5kWh. Most cars have several times that capacity.
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Another way of looking at it. An average motorhome 100Ah lead-acid battery has 0.6kWh if usable energy. Some EVs carry the equivalent energy of 150 leisure batteries. They'll keep your house going for a while.
 
Guigsy said:
But you can still charge at home. Petrol stations were out nationwide a few weeks ago.
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If you happen to be at home or have the range to get home - if a visitor or someone passing through needs to charge up and expects to find a charging point they may be out of luck.

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EV batteries will last up to 20 years.
Tesla state 90% of battery efficiency will be retained at 200,000 miles.
Elon Musk stated in 2019 that the Tesla Model 3 drive unit and body was designed to last one million miles. The battery, however, has a minimum lifespan of 1,500 charge cycles which should translate to 300,000+ miles (standard range/standard range plus) to 500,000 miles (long-range variants).9 Oct 2019
I suspect when demand is there in years to come batteries will be recycled.
 
Puddleduck said:
If you happen to be at home or have the range to get home - if a visitor or someone passing through needs to charge up and expects to find a charging point they may be out of luck.
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In an earlier post, you listed typical trips which were well within the range of an EV. Only the trip to the parents would need a quick supercharge somewhere along the journey. So the vast majority of the time, you'd be charging up overnight at home where the electricity is far cheaper. With an EV, the majority of people just won't need to use fuel stations.
 
Guigsy said:
Another way of looking at it. An average motorhome 100Ah lead-acid battery has 0.6kWh if usable energy. Some EVs carry the equivalent energy of 150 leisure batteries. They'll keep your house going for a while.
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Our motorhome leisure battery will give us 36 hours max of medical equipment use (if nothing else is on at all) unless it is recharged (solar / driving or EHU). We carry a second battery as a dedicated back-up. The CPAP machine has a warning that a standard car battery should not be used to power it unless you have an inline regulator (just over £100).

We have been without power for 2 weeks (some years ago) so a battery to supply enough power for basic stuff is a good idea I think - and it will charge from the solar panels on the house roof. If the power is out more than a few days and the roads are blocked (usually snow round here) we'd need helicopter evacuation.

We have no gas out here so rely on the electric supply for cooking, heating etc. Annual use is almost 8,000 KWH, about 22 KWH a day.
 
Puddleduck said:
Our motorhome leisure battery will give us 36 hours max of medical equipment use (if nothing else is on at all) unless it is recharged (solar / driving or EHU). We carry a second battery as a dedicated back-up. The CPAP machine has a warning that a standard car battery should not be used to power it unless you have an inline regulator (just over £100).

We have been without power for 2 weeks (some years ago) so a battery to supply enough power for basic stuff is a good idea I think - and it will charge from the solar panels on the house roof. If the power is out more than a few days and the roads are blocked (usually snow round here) we'd need helicopter evacuation.

We have no gas out here so rely on the electric supply for cooking, heating etc. Annual use is almost 8,000 KWH, about 22 KWH a day.
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I guess it depends on how much risk you're prepared to take. Assuming you didn't come home with an empty battery and find the house has no power (!), a EV with an invertor could theoretically keep the house going comfortably for a few days. And in the summer, those solar panels might extend it substantially (especially if you're using less heating). Which is a lot more redundancy that I guess you've got now.
 
Guigsy said:
In an earlier post, you listed typical trips which were well within the range of an EV. Only the trip to the parents would need a quick supercharge somewhere along the journey. So the vast majority of the time, you'd be charging up overnight at home where the electricity is far cheaper. With an EV, the majority of people just won't need to use fuel stations.
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Yes the weekly shopping trip (16 miles total) is easy but the parents' run will be an issue as there is nowhere to recharge at their house and I do a lot of running round in the car whilst I am there - often another 50 miles or more from GP to pharmacy to hospital and shopping (usually several trips as Mum forgets vital and urgent stuff).

A supercharge in rural Northumberland ? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

We do the parents' trip every two weeks at least, often I take the car straight down so I can make a start on the running round and Martin takes the van to the (nearest but rural) campsite. Then it is back and forth every day in the car (26 mile round trip) every day. I'm not sure if we would be able to recharge at the campsite - I suspect not at present as it's a small CL and the EHU is limited.

Anyway at present we need a WAV and there is no such suitable electric vehicle yet.

I am very very risk averse which is why we are having the in house battery installed :)

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