C&MC white posts

[GAVLAD]

Just returned from knaresborough CAMC club site and didn’t see two pegs. Warden watched me reverse in instead of driving in as we have a continental van, but nothing was said.
It will be interesting to see how some UK sites get on this year (financially) as a lot will be planning overseas trips.
I wonder whether costs will decrease with less demand?

 

[Bleau’s]

You brought up the fire brigade advice as being the basis for the 6m rule.

I merely asked whether the same advice was given and acted upon by all CP operators. It seemed to be a reasonable question in order to find out whether campsites are on their own in this respect, or whether the other CP operators should be enforcing the same rules.

As for Janine's comment about not sleeping in a CP, if I owned a car and a vehicle caught fire and damaged my car I would not be pleased were I was sleeping in it or not. The rule seems to be to protect adjacent vehicles whether occupied or not.

As to the tone of your reply zaskar others have commented so I need to add no more.

Geoff

The 6 meter rule is in the model standards which all councils use as a guideline for caravan site license conditions which all licensed sites must use see my previous post . When I go into my office at our park I will load the relevant part of our site license on here for all to read and the site license conditions must be displayed in a prominent place on all parks for all to read .

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

This was our most cramped night on a european tour - at an official site in munich. You can see the pitches marked out by the stones. I could shake hands with the neighbours without getting out of bed. However, I couldnt open the side locker as the door would hit their van. I guess their rules are different to the UK ones

Think if I that was the norm i would sell the van as it’s my worst nightmare having people park close to me

 

[Reallyretired]

Nice little Aire in Le Crotoy.
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Room for a few more in there

 

[A S R]

When I went down to the Alps mountain biking a few years ago me and my mate stopped at an aire in France. The previous week a motorhome had gone up in flames in the end pitch. The surrounding barrier and trees were all badly scorched in the inferno along with the van parked next to it. The pitch was still closed off while they sorted it out. You can see the scorching in this picture.

My van is the one in the middle. I certainly DONT like parking this close.

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[Jonno1103]

The French seem to be a bit sniffy about which way to park , it's not my fault if their hab door is on the wrong side

There's a site down in Corfe which won't allow moho's or caravans which have hab doors opening on the European side.

 

[Jonno1103]

The 6 meter rule is in the model standards which all councils use as a guideline for caravan site license conditions which all licensed sites must use see my previous post . When I go into my office at our park I will load the relevant part of our site license on here for all to read and the site license conditions must be displayed in a prominent place on all parks for all to read .

As said, the Model Standards ( as it was renamed in 2008) relates to permanent residences or mobile vehicles used as a permanent residence. If there is agricultural vehicles used on the site then it can be waived... sit on lawn mowers and John Deer type vehicles which most sites use are classed as agricultural.

 

[VXman]

The French seem to be a bit sniffy about which way to park , it's not my fault if their hab door is on the wrong side

Which is the 'right' side?

 

[AndyPK]

We booked in at Warwick C&MC site yesterday, and reception told me that they were trialling a new pitch peg layout. I said, ‘so it’s two pegs then’, but the response was ‘no, that’s being trialled in another area, we’re just putting the pegs in one corner of the pitch’. The helpful leaflet (see below) shows how to park up to it…….
I think the pegs used to be in the opposite corner………?

 

[TOT]

Which is the 'right' side?

That would be the pavement side - depending which country you are in....?

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[TOT]

Anyone know where I can get a Vinyl wrap cut out of a door to put on the other side of my MoHo.....!!!

 

[nicholsong]

That would be the pavement side - depending which country you are in....?

On campsites?

 

[68c]

We booked in at Warwick C&MC site yesterday, and reception told me that they were trialling a new pitch peg layout. I said, ‘so it’s two pegs then’, but the response was ‘no, that’s being trialled in another area, we’re just putting the pegs in one corner of the pitch’. The helpful leaflet (see below) shows how to park up to it…….
I think the pegs used to be in the opposite corner………?

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Not sure how that works with a mix of vans and caravans, as one would expect the peg to be in the same place on all pitches. Would a motorhome parked to the left of a caravan have the car on their pitch?

 

[AndyPK]

Not sure how that works with a mix of vans and caravans, as one would expect the peg to be in the same place on all pitches. Would a motorhome parked to the left of a caravan have the car on their pitch?

No, they seem to have made the pitches very wide, as per the photo below………

 

[68c]

No, they seem to have made the pitches very wide, as per the photo below………

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That grass strip is not 6m wide.
Edit: My point is the car on the caravan is to left of the post amd so must encroach on the pitch to the left. Would make sense if the car lined up with the post, not the caravan.

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[AndyPK]

No, but the requirement is for ‘at least 6m between facing walls of any adjacent outfit’………
Is a car included, I wonder……?

 

[cyberyacht]

Pitching to the peg rule has all the clarity of the FA offside rule.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Pitching to the peg rule has all the clarity of the FA offside rule.

Really?
I fail to see how much clearer it needs to be for anyone of average intelligence

1. The reasoning
2. The how - with a diagram for the illiterate
3. Any other variant, check with the wardens

I really can't understand why some seem to have difficulty with this - unless they have a problem with the CAMC, and presumably don't use the sites.

 

[cyberyacht]

I always endeavour to maintain a 6 metre distance between CAMC and my wallet.

 

[A S R]

It all seems pretty damn obvious to me!


1. I don’t pull a caravan with my motorhome.
2. I don’t drag a car with my motorhome.
3. Pitch marker to the rear offside if I reverse in.
4. Pitch marker to the front nearside if I drive in.
5. I park according to the best view I get. I’m certainly NOT parking up staring at a hedge or wall.

Simples.

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[L' Hobo]

We booked in at Warwick C&MC site yesterday, and reception told me that they were trialling a new pitch peg layout. I said, ‘so it’s two pegs then’, but the response was ‘no, that’s being trialled in another area, we’re just putting the pegs in one corner of the pitch’. The helpful leaflet (see below) shows how to park up to it…….
I think the pegs used to be in the opposite corner………?

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Is this not how it has always been, it has on the CCC sites?? (I have to admit I very rarely use the C&MhC sites)

 

[peterc10]

So which side of the motorhome should the awning be?

 

[AndyPK]

Whichever side it’s attached to!

 

[DavidG58]

No, they seem to have made the pitches very wide, as per the photo below………

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That is a huge pitch, have you still got a car width on the side we can’t see

 

[A S R]

So which side of the motorhome should the awning be?

Whatever side the Hab door happens to be on. The unit is still in the correct space.
If it’s a caravan with an awning the the car should be on the opposite side. As per the picture above.
It really makes no difference where the motorhome / caravan is parked as long as they are all parked the same. That is all parked in the corner of the pitch or the middle. UNLESS the corner of the pitch is implemented and a continental motorhome ( or caravan as there are an increasing amount of them now ) and they want to park front in. Then you can’t do it. Which is why parking in the middle of any pitch is the ONLY way to do it. Then it makes no difference whatsoever if they want to park front in or back in. The awning / car can go either side.

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[68c]

Really?
I fail to see how much clearer it needs to be for anyone of average intelligence

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1. The reasoning
2. The how - with a diagram for the illiterate
3. Any other variant, check with the wardens

I really can't understand why some seem to have difficulty with this - unless they have a problem with the CAMC, and presumably don't use the sites.

Just do not see why the car is to the left of the peg. Cars can catch fire as well.

 

[68c]

Whatever side the Hab door happens to be on. The unit is still in the correct space.
If it’s a caravan with an awning the the car should be on the opposite side. As per the picture above.
It really makes no difference where the motorhome / caravan is parked as long as they are all parked the same. That is all parked in the corner of the pitch or the middle. UNLESS the corner of the pitch is implemented and a continental motorhome ( or caravan as there are an increasing amount of them now ) and they want to park front in. Then you can’t do it. Which is why parking in the middle of any pitch is the ONLY way to do it. Then it makes no difference whatsoever if they want to park front in or back in. The awning / car can go either side.

I agree completely, at least then the car will not be to the left of the peg and thus out of pitch.

 

[peterc10]

Whatever side the Hab door happens to be on. The unit is still in the correct space.
If it’s a caravan with an awning the the car should be on the opposite side. As per the picture above.
It really makes no difference where the motorhome / caravan is parked as long as they are all parked the same. That is all parked in the corner of the pitch or the middle. UNLESS the corner of the pitch is implemented and a continental motorhome ( or caravan as there are an increasing amount of them now ) and they want to park front in. Then you can’t do it. Which is why parking in the middle of any pitch is the ONLY way to do it. Then it makes no difference whatsoever if they want to park front in or back in. The awning / car can go either side.

So doors can face one another depending which way you have driven or reversed in and also which side the hab door is. That will upset a lot of members.

 

[Gellyneck]

Really?
I fail to see how much clearer it needs to be for anyone of average intelligence

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1. The reasoning
2. The how - with a diagram for the illiterate
3. Any other variant, check with the wardens

I really can't understand why some seem to have difficulty with this - unless they have a problem with the CAMC, and presumably don't use the sites.

I complained to the C&MC Regional Manager yesterday as he was doing a site inspection as to how the h*ll do they expect us motorhomers to understand the diagram as it hasn't got "THIS WAY UP" printed on it!

 

[emjaiuk]

Why can't they be like contental sites, you rent the pitch and you can park how you like on the pitch.

Elf 'n Safety trumps all! I heard a rumour that white caravans may be banned due to the possibility that sunlight reflection may damage wardens eyesight.

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