Beware out there folks - not nice 'present' on returning home today

[Nanniemate]

Just avoid Wales. It's a bit rubbish anyway.

You won't be missed

 

[gus-lopez]

You just need to add a 'stooge' to your car insurance. In fact add Mark Drakeford - Any time you get one he was driving

 

[Richard n Ann]

Just avoid Wales. It's a bit rubbish anyway.

I wouldn't say that, it's just unfortunate the Welsh people have found themselves under these tyrannical rulers

 

[davanne]

Just avoid Wales. It's a bit rubbish anyway.

Wales is a beautiful country why do you think it’s rubbish?

 

[Googlebot]

Wait for the " if you werent speeding blah blah blah"

Hello.

I am a big fan of the 20mph limits, driver entitlement is real. Look how angry people are getting on this thread about something which might delay them slightly, even if it saves little children’s lives.

I have also been caught speeding, not in a 20mph though, it is annoying being caught, there is however solely one person in the whole world responsible for that offence.

I love Wales.

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[gpat]

Wales is a beautiful country why do you think it’s rubbish?

It wouldn't be rubbish if not for the petty people that do things like this. I got done for doing 32 mph at 06:00 in the morning. I was easy prey for them. I had to go on a speed awareness course. Since then Wales is not for me. There are some beautiful parts yes, but then there are lots of alternatives.

 

[KiwiKampers]

The previous Government in New Zealand imposed blanket speed reductions across the country, at great expense, in 2019. 100kph became 80kph on open roads, and 50kph restrictions became 30kph.
It made no difference to the death tolls or serious accident rate and only added to driver frustration which often led to them taking risks to overtake where they shouldn't.
Last week, the new coalition Government announced it was reversing all the 2019 speed restrictions and the limits will go back to what they were pre-2019.
Drivers seem to fall into one of two camps on this. The little old lady in her Suzuki Swift or Honda Jazz thinks the reduced speeds are best, the rest are glad to have the opportunity to drive to the conditions and use their skills to decide what speed they should be doing rather than have the Nanny State decide.
Which camp do you think I fall into?

 

[Richard n Ann]

The previous Government in New Zealand imposed blanket speed reductions across the country, at great expense, in 2019. 100kph became 80kph on open roads, and 50kph restrictions became 30kph.
It made no difference to the death tolls or serious accident rate and only added to driver frustration which often led to them taking risks to overtake where they shouldn't.
Last week, the new coalition Government announced it was reversing all the 2019 speed restrictions and the limits will go back to what they were pre-2019.
Drivers seem to fall into one of two camps on this. The little old lady in her Suzuki Swift or Honda Jazz thinks the reduced speeds are best, the rest are glad to have the opportunity to drive to the conditions and use their skills to decide what speed they should be doing rather than have the Nanny State decide.
Which camp do you think I fall into?

Won't happen in the UK I've never known any laws or controls loosened. Somebody would have to admit they were wrong and that doesn't happen here.

 

[gpat]

Hello.

I am a big fan of the 20mph limits, driver entitlement is real. Look how angry people are getting on this thread about something which might delay them slightly, even if it saves little children’s lives.

I have also been caught speeding, not in a 20mph though, it is annoying being caught, there is however solely one person in the whole world responsible for that offence.

I love Wales.

I have no issue with 20mph zones. But I would have an issue if I got 3 points and £60 fine for accidentally going through at 21mph at 6am in the morning. It's things like that that cheese people off. Petty or money making. Not sure.

There are no speed cameras on the Isle of man. None. We have 20 zones around schools and they work well. They are only 20 during school times. We have smiley cameras which go sad if you are speeding.

That is a much more grown up approach than the pathetic approach of the Welsh government and their police.

 

[Phill D]

Just avoid Wales. It's a bit rubbish anyway.

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[POH]

This... would have been while navigating a horrible and busy forced diversion through the town at the alleged time.

So lovely of them!

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naughty boys school unless you have some already on your licence in that case .
ps that's why I don't go to Welsh Wales.

 

[Phill D]

It wouldn't be rubbish if not for the petty people that do things like this. I got done for doing 32 mph at 06:00 in the morning. I was easy prey for them. I had to go on a speed awareness course. Since then Wales is not for me. There are some beautiful parts yes, but then there are lots of alternatives.

You won’t get done for 32 in a 30, they practice “ speed limit plus 10% + 1 anything above your done.

So in a 30 you would need to be at 35 to be done.
They do this as they know our speedometers are not calibrated.
But your entitled to claim otherwise.

 

[EuroTrotters]

I repaired a Habitation A/C for a forum Member back in July.

I could of sworn I had avoided the Bradford CAZ Charge.

I ended up with a £120 PCN charge on top. But managed to settle it at 1/2 cost £60 plus £9 daily charge.

Mine is a Euro V

Fecking Seething

 

[gpat]

You won’t get done for 32 in a 30, they practice “ speed limit plus 10% + 1 anything above your done.

So in a 30 you would need to be at 35 to be done.
They do this as they know our speedometers are not calibrated.
But your entitled to claim otherwise.

Well I did. 32. I argued with the trainer at the speed awareness course and he said if I didn't accept 32 was too fast he would fail me.

 

[gpat]

I'm sorry for saying it's a bit rubbish. Of course I don't think that really. However some of their policies are making people angry and hate it. I have Welsh decendancy and family there. Used to visit regularly and enjoyed it. Not now. Not since I got done for 'speeding'. Still angry after 5 years.

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[EuroTrotters]

Well I did. 32. I argued with the trainer at the speed awareness course and he said if I didn't accept 32 was too fast he would fail me.

I went through a red light.

Two trainers on my course firmly informed everyone, anyone caught using a mobile on the course would be removed and get the points and fine.

Two people did use their phone, one had to be told twice.

Nobody was kicked off the course. But they were both minorities

 

[EuroTrotters]

I'm sorry for saying it's a bit rubbish. Of course I don't think that really. However some of their policies are making people angry and hate it. I have Welsh decendancy and family there. Used to visit regularly and enjoyed it. Not now. Not since I got done for 'speeding'. Still angry after 5 years.

Let it go, won't do you any good.

 

[Phill D]

Well I did. 32. I argued with the trainer at the speed awareness course and he said if I didn't accept 32 was too fast he would fail me.

You must have a different application on speed fines in your van part of the country.
I attended naught school for 35 in a 30 and was clearly told that had I been doing 34 I would not have been there.

 

[Taran_Las]

I live in and love Wales. How do you think I feel when I have to drive at no more than 20mph everyday and my motorhome friends want to avoid my principality?

 

[Wonderhorse]

naughty boys school unless you have some already on your licence in that case .
ps that's why I don't go to Welsh Wales.

Never had any on my licence, so if naughty boy school keeps it that way then it will suffice.

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[poisondwarf]

I reckon the people dreaming up this rubbish are fresh out of university where they've been brainwashed. Anti car idiots. I think the only place you can get by without a car is London.

And, very unfortunately, the majority of people in a given area, voted them in

 

[dazandandrea]

Just go, do it and forget it .
I argued with the " teacher" that it was a pure money making scam . Basically shut up and put up with it.

 

[Coolcats]

Won't happen in the UK I've never known any laws or controls loosened. Somebody would have to admit they were wrong and that doesn't happen here.

Laws are changed all the time, we used to execute people the law changed and we don’t do that anymore….Dont forget there was a vote so we could make our own laws (Slightly different from making up our own laws)

 

[Coolcats]

This... would have been while navigating a horrible and busy forced diversion through the town at the alleged time.

So lovely of them!

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Sorry to hear you were caught, most drivers have at one time or another, the key for this is was there a sign of 20 mph before you entered the area, happy to be corrected but if it’s a speed zone you only have to be notified once when you enter it, rather than repeaters every so often.

Another thought is if this was a diversion was the road or street you entered normally one way and you entered a street where there was no signage.

But whatever the speed control in place 20-30-40-59-60 if your over the limit you will be prosecuted. Fairness or ‘faceless’ committee or Wales has nothing to do with it, do the crime pay the fine .

Hopefully you may get a speed awareness course ( unless you have done one in the past 5 years).

 

[Adeydub]

I reckon the people dreaming up this rubbish are fresh out of university where they've been brainwashed. Anti car idiots. I think the only place you can get by without a car is London.

I think they design car parks too

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[gwyntaxi]

This... would have been while navigating a horrible and busy forced diversion through the town at the alleged time.

So lovely of them!

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B@$¥@rds, this 20mph is nothing but a money making scheme, it is the most ludicrous law ever made does nothing for road safety, it creates more pollution all these tailback at that speed, increases our fuel bills, and doesn't do the vehicle any good, particularly the DPF system,
Nothing but a con dreamtup by that @$$,#ol€ Drakeford who doesn't even drive what a 1st class W@nk€r.

 

[gwyntaxi]

This... would have been while navigating a horrible and busy forced diversion through the town at the alleged time.

So lovely of them!

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Our local CKs supermarket has tall speed cameras on the yellow post the CKs also has a post office in the store and two months ago the had 200 Drivers come in to pay their fine for going over the dreaded 20mph.

 

[Matt_e]

As someone who lives in Wales, and had to suffer their neighbours petitioning for the local 20 zone to be extended (so we now get an extra minute of loud cars, sirens etc.). I have mixed feelings on this (especially as a lot of 'my' 20 zone is through open farmland).

Does 20mph have a place? Yes - especially in the local town where the tourists (so, you lot!) wander about aimlessly without a care for cars, tractors, busses etc., but it was poorly implemented as a lazy and expensive hobby horse by a few holier-than-thou types in the Senedd.

And for anyone planning on visiting North Wales, thanks to Plaid (never thought I would say that), we actually have the lowest number of 20 zones

But irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the policy, most modern satnavs will bleat if you get near to/exceed the limit and if you get TomTom (and possibly others), most of the mobile units are accurately reported as well.

Plus, campervans and motorhomes are not cars - we should be driving these big heavy vehicles slower.

(Where did I put my tin hat and flack jacket?)

 

[Chris]

Just avoid Wales. It's a bit rubbish anyway.

 

[steve69]

It's Swansea Road in Merthyr .it will be spot on as they know how many dodgy expert's frequent the area.
Although it has settled down it was notorious for crime , car theft and such like
However saying that there are some great characters with huge hearts there also

Sorry for laughing, but that last sentence is a brilliant example of "being damned by faint praise".

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