Avro energy collapsed

[Colino]

They reckon the amount of energy suppliers will go down from 70 at the beginning of the year to 10 by the winter.

 

[Jamesh]

When it suits Green goes out of the window, DRAX back in power production.
We are on the cusp of a major energy crisis with no or little European support.
Perhaps the USA or Australia will plug the gap.
Beware of the price of energy will spiral, you do not need me to tell you what is becoming obvious.
Our taxes supporting CO2 production, more to come out way very soon.
Plug your car in be Green

Problem is we don't have enough extra power on tap esp with wind / solar so unreliable.

No to mention all the extra power for electric cars.

No new fossil powered stations, nuclear a good decade away we are up the creak without paddle....

Whilst russian is laughing at us and China powers up new coal first stations each week!!

Cheers James

 

[Colino]

Managed to access my Avro account early hours this morning and download all statements and balances.
On their home page was the jargon of them ceasing to trade but I clicked on 3 bars and logged in as normal.
Probably couldn't get access earlier as so many were maybe trying at the same time??

 

[Broncofx]

Ofgem tranferring all customers of folded companies to EDF!! I can highly recommend Octopus excellent company and big enough to be a sticker.

i was with peoples energy and have been transferred to British gas but will be seeking other company once switch sorted

 

[pampam]

I think ill just take a photo of meters and carry on paying my £145 a month dd ,i really wish i hadnt had a smart meter installed if they can just cut you off ( which i find surprising as they couldnt even take a blinkin reading ) i prefer the old way meter reading every 3 month and pay my bill at post office lol,no debt and more control for me

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[pampam]

And on that note why oh why did they privatise our basic utilities? We should have nationalised electric,gas,water, rail, and elderley care !it seems to have all gone downhill since privatisation

 

[Silver-Fox]

From your link,

• A new sort of smart meter would need to be installed in every home in the UK

And how many years will it take to do that, go through all the discussions and arguments and then fit them to every household in the country.

They can’t get I D cards accepted so dont think this would get much chance going through.

 

[Jenka]

Was this recent? Did the company go bust? If so, You were very lucky to get same rate you were on,
unless the rate you were on wasnt great.

About 5months ago and no not lucky their obligation and i had a great rate as far as im concerned

 

[Coolcats]

One thing to be aware of. Due to the cap on the standard tariff some companies are removing the standard tariff from their website. The fixed priced deals are not regulated like the standard tariff so can be of a higher price.
Be careful fixing in a price in the immediate future as they can be more expensive than the standard tariff and prices may well come back to normal once the Russians start pumping gas again.

Hydrogen is the answer....

 

[Coolcats]

When it suits Green goes out of the window, DRAX back in power production.
We are on the cusp of a major energy crisis with no or little European support.
Perhaps the USA or Australia will plug the gap.
Beware of the price of energy will spiral, you do not need me to tell you what is becoming obvious.
Our taxes supporting CO2 production, more to come out way very soon.
Plug your car in be Green

If you really want green power Ecotricity have been at the forefront of Green energy production. Dale Vince unlike many of the energy companies that are just re-sellers Ecotricity have produced Green power and sell it since the mid 90's

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[Silver-Fox]

Managed to access my Avro account early hours this morning and download all statements and balances.
On their home page was the jargon of them ceasing to trade but I clicked on 3 bars and logged in as normal.
Probably couldn't get access earlier as so many were maybe trying at the same time??

No info available now.

Just headers for each section

 

[34127]

I think ill just take a photo of meters and carry on paying my £145 a month dd ,i really wish i hadnt had a smart meter installed if they can just cut you off ( which i find surprising as they couldnt even take a blinkin reading ) i prefer the old way meter reading every 3 month and pay my bill at post office lol,no debt and more control for me

They can't just cut you off because you have a smart meter fitted, the post suggesting they could was scare mongering. They would have to visit each property to cut off the the supply and as this affects 100,000s of users then this isn't possible.

 

[Colino]

No info available now.

Just headers for each section

Between 3 and 4 am I accessed my account. Maybe not so many people trying then ?
Ps And my mothers account.

 

[mofurt]

Smart meters do have the technical ability to disconnect remotely, and have since inception. The utilities have agreed that they won't use this. The new proposal is to allow a more fine-tuned disconnect - so rather than leave you totally without power, in a situation where they need to reduce network load they could stop you charging a car meaning you would still have light and be able to cook.
Conversely, there is talked-about ability to do things like tell the system you want your car to be charged up in the next 24 hours, and it will turn on your charger when there is excess capacity in the system.

They won't disconnect people over the companies going bust, that is scaremongering. But the technical ability exists.

And I doubt this will harm the government too much - honesty, integrity and competence don't seem to be valued by voters anymore

 

[34127]

Smart meters do have the technical ability to disconnect remotely, and have since inception.

I would like to know how this would work as they would have to install an isolator connected to the incoming supply where the main supply incoming fuse is fitted and there isn't one fitted to mine.
Also, who would do the 'disconnection' as the company that fitted it would ne longer be trading.

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[Colino]

I would have liked to have seen First utility cut my energy off via the smart meter. They couldn't even take a reading from it

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Maybe in the depths of winter and short on gas, you will finally appreciate the benefit of the multiple dog farts in the evening. Light them at your own risk.


** Usual disclaimer… do not try this at home, it is a joke

 

[Mickey1]

Aargh! I just switched to them and they have taken the first payment. As I have hardly used any fuel since, I will be in credit. Fingers crossed the switch to another supplier goes smoothly!

I’ve done exactly the same as you Janine

 

[mofurt]

I would like to know how this would work as they would have to install an isolator connected to the incoming supply where the main supply incoming fuse is fitted and there isn't one fitted to mine.
Also, who would do the 'disconnection' as the company that fitted it would ne longer be trading.

It's internal to the meter (not all types) so after the fuse. Trying to find public facing docs is awkward (they don't like to publish this), but it's real enough that citizens advice give advice about it. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/c...told-your-energy-supply-will-be-disconnected/

As I said, in this case it won't happen so that is scaremongering. But technically it can.

 

[34127]

It's internal to the meter (not all types) so after the fuse. Trying to find public facing docs is awkward (they don't like to publish this), but it's real enough that citizens advice give advice about it. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/c...told-your-energy-supply-will-be-disconnected/

As I said, in this case it won't happen so that is scaremongering. But technically it can.

I believe that it is possible in the future but the current smart meters do not have this ability to disconnect. Also, what is there stopping anyone from unplugging their smart meter, the internal batteries don't last long so don't see how a 'dead' smart meter could do anything to disrupt supply.

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[tofo]

Just had a look at citizen’s advice for supplier gone bust

Your energy supplier has gone bust

What happens if your gas or electricity supplier stops trading, and what you should do next.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk

 

[tonka]

Luckily I had downloaded my end of August bill that showed my balance and only 1 payment for September has been taken.
So have a good idea on what my credit should be, minus the September bill thats due.
Got my meter readings, cancelled my direct debit. Waiting now to see who I am moved to and what the rates are.
I did like AVRO, Simple 1 rate and the website / communication was always good.

 

[Coolcats]

I believe that it is possible in the future but the current smart meters do not have this ability to disconnect. Also, what is there stopping anyone from unplugging their smart meter, the internal batteries don't last long so don't see how a 'dead' smart meter could do anything to disrupt supply.

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Some smart meters have an electronic disconnect inside, which can be controlled from the utility company’s office, without a crew going to the site.

and

<Broken link removed>

• Automatic Shut-down – if the user failed to notice the remaining power of the energy meter and if it becomes zero, then the electricity energy meter will automatically tripped-off and it interrupts the power supply. The user should purchase electricity.

Therefore energy companies have the potential ability to cut off supply with a smart meter

However:

'People with smart meters are protected by exactly the same strict regulations that protect anyone with a traditional meter relating to an energy supplier switching off or disconnecting their gas or electricity supplies.

This means you should not be cut off if a company goes bust your usage will just be transferred to another organisation.

 

[mofurt]

^^^ Exactly this. Technically possible, but not going to happen in this situation. And the little remote display sitting in your house isn't the meter - it doesn't matter if you ever put batteries in that, the functionality to send back meter readings (and control your supply) is in the box bolted to the wall that has a convenient mains power supply connected to run from.

 

[34127]

Page 9
Some smart meters have an electronic disconnect inside, which can be controlled from the utility company’s office, without a crew going to the site.

and

<Broken link removed>

• Automatic Shut-down – if the user failed to notice the remaining power of the energy meter and if it becomes zero, then the electricity energy meter will automatically tripped-off and it interrupts the power supply. The user should purchase electricity.

Therefore energy companies have the potential ability to cut off supply with a smart meter

However:

'People with smart meters are protected by exactly the same strict regulations that protect anyone with a traditional meter relating to an energy supplier switching off or disconnecting their gas or electricity supplies.

This means you should not be cut off if a company goes bust your usage will just be transferred to another organisation.

I think the important point is that some smart meters have the ability to disconnect but not likely to be many. My knowledge may now be out of date but a while back I was talking to someone who was involved in the roll out of smart meters. At the time the energy companies where being forced to fit smart meters at their own cost so they went for the cheapest option that didn't have the ability to disconnect.
But in any case, as has been mentioned several times already, there would be a process to go through first including discussions with the user and this would mean that a mass disconnection would not be possible due to the number of man hours needed to comply with guidelines.

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[Coolcats]

I think the important point is that some smart meters have the ability to disconnect but not likely to be many. My knowledge may now be out of date but a while back I was talking to someone who was involved in the roll out of smart meters. At the time the energy companies where being forced to fit smart meters at their own cost so they went for the cheapest option that didn't have the ability to disconnect.
But in any case, as has been mentioned several times already, there would be a process to go through first including discussions with the user and this would mean that a mass disconnection would not be possible due to the number of man hours needed to comply with guidelines.

This is interesting as my Neighbour was evicted by Bailiffs, I did not see an energy company visit site just Locksmith a police officer and the Bailiffs. Have to say they were totally respectful polite and followed a process really well.

The Landlord ask me to press button A & B on the meter ( sounded like I was being asked to operate one of these very old Phone Box's) to restart the power as it had been cut off. My impression was power had been stopped remotely but could be wrong.

Should add that its different in that Avro and other suppliers customers are paying thier bills so there is no need to cut them off

 

[sallylillian]

There are sites we go on that can remotely switch power on to the socket on my pitch from reception and what's more sell 6, 10 or 16 amp. So I am sure there are many ways of managing home supplies remotely.

 

[Minxy]

Managed to access my Avro account early hours this morning and download all statements and balances.
On their home page was the jargon of them ceasing to trade but I clicked on 3 bars and logged in as normal.
Probably couldn't get access earlier as so many were maybe trying at the same time??

You could've woken me up with a big ALERT on fun!

 

[Larrynwin]

She’ll Energy website / app under maintenance.

 

[Janine]

She’ll Energy website / app under maintenance.

Hmmmm... I switched from Shell and have been trying to get a final bill. Website has been up and down over the last couple of weeks.

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