£225,000 at the NEC

[Al n Val]

So

we’re going to the NEC on thursday, we’ll be there a max of 6 hours possibly less looking to spend (maybe) £225000 less PX
on an A Class

1. max 8mtrs

2. Not white (silver)

3. 2 berth (poss 4) so 4 belts

4. Island bed (poss singles)

5. double floor but don’t want to have to climb a staircase to get in/out

6. big garage for folding elec bikes, chairs,table but no high bed inside

7. Must be auto and poss Merc but not essential so Iveco or something else

8. enough roof room for 600w min solar

This will poss be our last motorhome so good build quality with no shitty dealer backup service would be nice

Dealer max 2 hours but pre preferred less from West Yorks, is their any good dealers out there ???

Can you think of anything else and i’m not a fan of the TV in the hab door entrance either

cheers
Al

PS. Val will not entertain rouffle leather so has to be nice n smooth

 

[WESTY66]

I would pay £200k to keep away from that Vario you linked to

I love varios but I have to say that particular one is fugly inside and out

We saw a Vario parked in Spain on the same site to us, it was on a lorry chassis quite old (or looked old) and did resemble one of the old council rural library buses, but as the owner said they park it on sites for 6 months in winter so only drive it twice a year.

You have to put into context, sure it’s dated, BUT how good/bad were the other motorhomes of that era, I think you will find most of them are on the borderline of scrap if not gone already, but quality will stand the test of time. Whether you would pay €98k for it or buy a newish swift kontiki is another matter. It’ll still be going when a lot of todays vans are long gone

 

[funflair]

No but my £1Million would and I still wouldn’t buy one

They’re only special if you think they are, simple as that and unfortunately they aren’t in our opinion

I wouldn’t suggest they are special, they are different as every van is, there are bits of the build that most others don’t do like moving the dashboard up and forward and moving the pedals and seats outwards for a great driving position, loads of storage in the double floor and big tanks suits us but yes they charge dearly for a few differences, they are all still a box on wheels

 

[jongood]

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I love varios but I have to say that particular one is fugly inside and out

That wasnt a serious suggestion I could get serious about a pusher version though, this one is lovely and cheaper than a lot of Arto's . Dammit this thread and talking to funflair last night has got me looking again, I thought I'd broken free

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=381708982&action=topInCategory&isSearchRequest=true&ms=24700%3B%3B%3B&ref=srp&refId=d552a8d7-7bee-854f-bfdb-10032309da38&s=Motorhome&sb=rel&searchId=d552a8d7-7bee-854f-bfdb-10032309da38&vc=Motorhome

 

[Steve and Denise]

You have to put into context, sure it’s dated, BUT how good/bad were the other motorhomes of that era, I think you will find most of them are on the borderline of scrap if not gone already, but quality will stand the test of time. Whether you would pay €98k for it or buy a newish swift kontiki is another matter. It’ll still be going when a lot of todays vans are long gone

A bit like my old BSA Goldie lovely looking old bike and still running but crap to ride modern jap bikes are just so much better but probably won’t last 60 years

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[WESTY66]

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That wasnt a serious suggestion I could get serious about a pusher version though, this one is lovely and cheaper than a lot of Arto's . Dammit this thread and talking to funflair last night has got me looking again, I thought I'd broken free

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=381708982&action=topInCategory&isSearchRequest=true&ms=24700%3B%3B%3B&ref=srp&refId=d552a8d7-7bee-854f-bfdb-10032309da38&s=Motorhome&sb=rel&searchId=d552a8d7-7bee-854f-bfdb-10032309da38&vc=Motorhome

I’d have that if, a, I had the licence b, it had a gearstick, c, I had the money!! I do love the MAN motorhomes! I wish I had bought that MAN Concorde 18 months ago now

 

[WESTY66]

Anyway getting back to the thread I told Al n Val a while ago to spend a few quid on his Rapido, and keep it, and put the rest of the 225k in my bank account where it will soon find its way to mobile.de

 

[Ditcha]

they are all still a box on wheels

Exactly I know we are having a bit banter on this thread and others about new/ old / expensive and cheap but alot of people buying a new or older motorhome firstly buy it cause they like it and construction, double floors, chassis etc are way down the list.
It's only us anoraks that think differently

 

[Northernraider]

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That wasnt a serious suggestion I could get serious about a pusher version though, this one is lovely and cheaper than a lot of Arto's . Dammit this thread and talking to funflair last night has got me looking again, I thought I'd broken free

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=381708982&action=topInCategory&isSearchRequest=true&ms=24700%3B%3B%3B&ref=srp&refId=d552a8d7-7bee-854f-bfdb-10032309da38&s=Motorhome&sb=rel&searchId=d552a8d7-7bee-854f-bfdb-10032309da38&vc=Motorhome

Meh

I'm not getting that one either Jon if I'm honest

 

[Northernraider]

You have to put into context, sure it’s dated, BUT how good/bad were the other motorhomes of that era, I think you will find most of them are on the borderline of scrap if not gone already, but quality will stand the test of time. Whether you would pay €98k for it or buy a newish swift kontiki is another matter. It’ll still be going when a lot of todays vans are long gone

Meh

I'd still much rather have the van I have than that.

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[Al n Val]

I wouldn’t suggest they are special, they are different as every van is, there are bits of the build that most others don’t do like moving the dashboard up and forward and moving the pedals and seats outwards for a great driving position, loads of storage in the double floor and big tanks suits us but yes they charge dearly for a few differences, they are all still a box on wheels

I’d replied to Jon’s post Martin

I wasnt meaning Morelo Martin because they are a bit special( and tbf the OPs £225k wouldnt buy one)

 

[funflair]

I’d replied to Jon’s post Martin

Yes I know we have already established that you don’t think they are that special and won’t be getting one

 

[Steve and Denise]

Yes I know we have already established that you don’t think they are that special and won’t be getting one

So how much is a Morello

 

[WESTY66]

So how much is a Morello

More than I’ve got

 

[CazPaul]

Hopefully it would be the last of the 2,9's. OM 606(?)

Those 2.9 D are only 122 bhp and the Vario says 160 bhp, the later 2.7 cdi is 156bhp,

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[Northernraider]

Those 2.9 D are only 122 bhp and the Vario says 160 bhp, the later 2.7 cdi is 156bhp,

Going by the dash etc I thought it was on an actual merc vario chassis. In which case I'd expect it to be 3900cc or 4250cc

 

[Carpmart]

Saw a RC motorhome not RS the other day never seen them at a show only make 10 a year by an ex yacht builder so well finished knock spots of the posh German ones only seen coachbuilt in 9 metre.

Love both RC and RS… they are very nicely built Motorhomes!

 

[funflair]

So how much is a Morello

Don’t know about panels vans but about the price of a few options on a Morelo

 

[CazPaul]

Going by the dash etc I thought it was on an actual merc vario chassis. In which case I'd expect it to be 3900cc or 4250cc

Yes you’re right I think the gearstick is on the floor so it won’t be 2.7cdi
It’s a quality van if it’s on the Vario 4.2 but not worth no where near that amount

 

[daveclare]

I’ve waited to reply Dave to have a good think about what we saw

My opinion only but we didn’t see anything better than what we’ve already got, ok some might have been better quality but it they didn’t look as nice then what’s the point

To be fair our interior fittings and cabinets are very good, nice n bright and modern looking

The electrical/gas appliances work perfect, even the 3 way fridge works perfect, i’ve upgraded the electrical system massively as you know so that works perfect

Once I get the tv lift and decals replaced we’ll be good to go, we both have decided against a rear lounge so we’ll be hanging onto what we’ve got with VB air suspension on the back end

I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm glad we're all different. Back to the vans though. I had a look at some rear lounge vans and IMHO, they're all a bit gloomy and old fashioned. That's fine if you like that sort of thing. I don't. So good decision Al and Val. I'd rather share a bottle of 'the Gov'nor' in your present and very nicely appointed van .

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[Ditcha]

Once I get the tv lift and decals replaced we’ll be good to go, we both have decided against a rear lounge so we’ll be hanging onto what we’ve got with VB air suspension on the back end

Wouldn't want to tackle that again Al I think we both lost a stone at Drax

 

[Al n Val]

Wouldn't want to tackle that again Al I think we both lost a stone at Drax

OMG it was like grafting in a sauna mate wasn’t it

I’m waiting for Rapido to authorise reimbursing me, i’ve tracked one down in Barnsley of all places which I can pick up monday, but at £500 I need to know i’ll get my money back first.

It shouldn’t bloody take this long to get parts sorted and that’s THE REASON why i’m not prepared to start the owning a brand new one and causing me brain strain again lol

 

[Just us on Tour]

True but the china cabinet ruins it for us, it’s so last century, and the dark floor, sorry not for us.

At the end of the day you either like it or not, Val def does not so they are a non starter for us, you see plenty on the road though so a lot must like them

The one on the Carthago stand standing right at the front had the front offside light bezel hanging off, the bathroom door handle came off in my hand so it didn’t instill me with a lot of confidence to buy one.

I’m always amazed how anyone can put something of demonstration which isn’t 110% perfect, first impressions are lasting ones in our book.

Hi Al
Well I have just come back from viewing a year old Carthago which are considering buying . Don’t get me wrong we actually liked the van …..But …..boy did it rattle ! Baring in mind it was totally empty it was the fixture and fitting that rattled . I even took the oven grills out to try to stop it . We don’t know what was rattling but it wasn’t one sing rattle , it was multiple . I have to be honest it’s taken the wind out of our sails ….. at the price they are we did not expect that . The small amount of noise we get from our existing van is bliss compared to what we have just driven . Shame …..we are in a quandary now .

 

[Steve and Denise]

Hi Al
Well I have just come back from viewing a year old Carthago which are considering buying . Don’t get me wrong we actually liked the van …..But …..boy did it rattle ! Baring in mind it was totally empty it was the fixture and fitting that rattled . I even took the oven grills out to try to stop it . We don’t know what was rattling but it wasn’t one sing rattle , it was multiple . I have to be honest it’s taken the wind out of our sails ….. at the price they are we did not expect that . The small amount of noise we get from our existing van is bliss compared to what we have just driven . Shame …..we are in a quandary now .

Ours is silent!
















Until we move it

 

[Steve and Denise]

OMG it was like grafting in a sauna mate wasn’t it

I’m waiting for Rapido to authorise reimbursing me, i’ve tracked one down in Barnsley of all places which I can pick up monday, but at £500 I need to know i’ll get my money back first.

It shouldn’t bloody take this long to get parts sorted and that’s THE REASON why i’m not prepared to start the owning a brand new one and causing me brain strain again lol

You tight bugger it still leaves £224500 to spend

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[Ditcha]

Hi Al
Well I have just come back from viewing a year old Carthago which are considering buying . Don’t get me wrong we actually liked the van …..But …..boy did it rattle ! Baring in mind it was totally empty it was the fixture and fitting that rattled . I even took the oven grills out to try to stop it . We don’t know what was rattling but it wasn’t one sing rattle , it was multiple . I have to be honest it’s taken the wind out of our sails ….. at the price they are we did not expect that . The small amount of noise we get from our existing van is bliss compared to what we have just driven . Shame …..we are in a quandary now .

I have always found that a empty Moho rattles and bounces about much more than a loaded one.

 

[enark]

Hi Al
Well I have just come back from viewing a year old Carthago which are considering buying . Don’t get me wrong we actually liked the van …..But …..boy did it rattle ! Baring in mind it was totally empty it was the fixture and fitting that rattled . I even took the oven grills out to try to stop it . We don’t know what was rattling but it wasn’t one sing rattle , it was multiple . I have to be honest it’s taken the wind out of our sails ….. at the price they are we did not expect that . The small amount of noise we get from our existing van is bliss compared to what we have just driven . Shame …..we are in a quandary now .

Tyres perhaps, high psi?

 

[Al n Val]

Hi Al
Well I have just come back from viewing a year old Carthago which are considering buying . Don’t get me wrong we actually liked the van …..But …..boy did it rattle ! Baring in mind it was totally empty it was the fixture and fitting that rattled . I even took the oven grills out to try to stop it . We don’t know what was rattling but it wasn’t one sing rattle , it was multiple . I have to be honest it’s taken the wind out of our sails ….. at the price they are we did not expect that . The small amount of noise we get from our existing van is bliss compared to what we have just driven . Shame …..we are in a quandary now .

Aha!!

that’s it then for Carthago, if they rattle then game over lol

 

[WESTY66]

Aha!!

that’s it then for Carthago, if they rattle then game over lol

Mine stops rattling if I take Val out

 

[Peregrinator]

So

we’re going to the NEC on thursday, we’ll be there a max of 6 hours possibly less looking to spend (maybe) £225000 less PX
on an A Class

1. max 8mtrs

2. Not white (silver)

3. 2 berth (poss 4) so 4 belts

4. Island bed (poss singles)

5. double floor but don’t want to have to climb a staircase to get in/out

6. big garage for folding elec bikes, chairs,table but no high bed inside

7. Must be auto and poss Merc but not essential so Iveco or something else

8. enough roof room for 600w min solar

This will poss be our last motorhome so good build quality with no shitty dealer backup service would be nice

Dealer max 2 hours but pre preferred less from West Yorks, is their any good dealers out there ???

Can you think of anything else and i’m not a fan of the TV in the hab door entrance either

cheers
Al

PS. Val will not entertain rouffle leather so has to be nice n smooth

Hi, Your budget is just under for a decent Morello, but it's great for a Carthago, There is a great company called Premium Motorhomes based near Doncaster, they sale both of theses motorhomes, so if I was you, I would go there, and see which models you like, you could compare both makes at the same time, although the Morello is a little bit longer than 8mt, I think you can get one which is shorter, but I don't think its worth the price, with the Carthago you have a great choose of models, my wife wants the liner for two, because it has a great kitchen and lounge, it is a great model, but I would like the twin beds at the back, but it is what the wife wants, I am still holding back, good luck and hope you find what your looking for.

P.S. the Premium Motorhomes address is below.


Premium Motorhomes
Plumtree Farm Industrial Estate
Plumtree Road
Harworth
DN11 8EW


+44(0)1302 710 543
sales@premium-motorhomes.co.uk

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[Peregrinator]

Someone mentioned Arto 78, they are nice, but I think they fail on the interior, for that money, I would expect a fully closed off bedroom, so you don't get cooking smells in the bedroom, also got to choose between shower or toilet with sliding wall?, not for that money.