Will £2+ per litre for diesel change your plans ?

[Jewellbags]

Sooo… I’ve bought 2 horses from the local farm and lashed them to the front of the moho …… ;-)

 

[CuckooChaser]

Just out of interest - is fuel still cheaper in Luxembourg as we will be travelling through there on our way to Germany later in the year.

 

[GAVLAD]

Short term, I think motorhomers will put up with paying these stupid prices and in the majority, will continue with their plans.
Long term, I think that it will have a bigger affect on destination decision planning as other living costs which are increasing will start to bite harder on pockets.
I think that the people across most of European countries will start to revolt against fuel prices and eventually, governments will have to react by reducing or rethinking the tax on fuel as it’s affecting all costs including goods/food etc.
I read that there’s already a European country experiencing people’s revolt by blockading fuel depots in protest. It won’t be long before that spreads to other countries.
The government can’t be seen to be experiencing such disruption on the back of Putin’s war.

 

[msb03]

Cutting down on the longer trips, but still plenty to see and do within a couple of hours from home. The bus is still returning 31.7 mpg overall since we got her, but it is a shock to the system when filling up

 

[Essgeebee]

Just to throw in a little hand grenade, if we all had no choice but to stay local, ie travel less than 100 miles from home, would we be happy with the locations we could reach?
I live in west Devon so Devon and Cornwall are my patch and I feel I hit the jackpot (though I’d miss the many other beautiful places we visit).
How about others.

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[TinaLes]

For those paying £35/40 maybe more in high season to stay on CMC sites for a week, or tour around for longer using them, I dont think the fuel increases will be a concern so much. Its those that have to commute in & out to work each day that will feel it most, I know I would have doing 27 miles each way in traffic.

Its not just The Crude Oil price that has risen, its the Refining price also, see below the figures and profits being made are mind blowing.
Quote from BC news website:

How much have margins increased?​

Figures from the data company Refinitiv show how the business of refining oil has become so profitable in the past year.
On the 8 June 2021, refiners were making $9.26 per barrel from refining petrol, and $6.84 per barrel refining diesel.
On Wednesday, they were making $43.11 on petrol, up 366%, and $51.13 on diesel, up 648%.
Figures published by BP, which owns a number of refineries in Europe and the US, shows its own measure of refining profits, the ‘Refining Marker Margin’, up from $7.7 dollars per barrel to $35.7 over the past year.

LES

 

[jopparocks]

Working it out for a 2000 mile trip comparing a cost of diesel at £1.60 per litre to £2.00 per litre based on an mpg of 20 then the additional cost will be £181.60. 3000 miles it will be £272.40. In the scheme of things a couple of trips of that additonal cost per year is not a lot. A return flight for two for a weekend for example in Berlin would cost that.

 

[funflair]

If you have a million £ motorhome, I doubt the increase in fuel costs will bother you too much

You don't get to be a millionaire by being frivolous, or so I am rold anyway

 

[iandsm]

Probably we will either travel less or be more thrifty with dinners out. Can’t cut back on sites or aires as we rarely use them unless abroad.

Thats how I see it, one less restaurant meal in a week easily makes up of the increased cost of fuel, for us anyway.

 

[Stuart]

The only people who can do anything about this shameful situation are the ones who are protected from its effects ie the Government. Whenever I see Boris climbing into his taxpayer provided 5 litre V8 Range Rover outside Number 10, while exhorting us to get in a Nissan Leaf to save the planet, I want to throw something at the TV. How can these wealthy, well paid, expenses backed ministers begin to understand what the price of fuel is doing to the rest of us.

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[dhall26]

Pleased to say that our new Euro6d auto is averaging 10% less fuel that our Old Euro5 Auto

 

[sarumsteve]

Currently in Denmark. Trip had been planned for 2020 so was not going to be put off by fuel price rises this year and probably will not in future either. May reduce car use to zero though to compensate.

 

[the1andonly]

£2 a litre is not a question. The real question is £20 a litre and will this be within 5 years. Do I spend the money before I die that Swmbo wants to hoard and give to the care home when she's 95

 

[Mike Rivers]

We’re off to France in September and nothing short of an earthquake is going to stop us. As ever, I shall keep my speed down and try to max out my fuel consumption. We usually get 30-32 mpg in a 75-2 Bailey. Through the year my wife has a ‘diesel’ pot for loose change and as I have to use an Esso card for work I’m collecting Nectar points. So a trip and fill up at my local Sainsbury’s is normally covered (sort of). Before leaving Portsmouth another top up with our CAMC fuelpecker card and we arrive in France as ready as we can be.

 

[joe and sue]

The only people who can do anything about this shameful situation are the ones who are protected from its effects ie the Government. Whenever I see Boris climbing into his taxpayer provided 5 litre V8 Range Rover outside Number 10, while exhorting us to get in a Nissan Leaf to save the planet, I want to throw something at the TV. How can these wealthy, well paid, expenses backed ministers begin to understand what the price of fuel is doing to the rest of us.

Do as I say, not as I do! Seems to be the government's mantra

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[Hymerboy]

Going touring around Ireland on Tuesday I won't be skimping on fuel but may cut the wife's beer money down.

 

[Figaro]

Going touring around Ireland on Tuesday I won't be skimping on fuel but may cut the wife's beer money down.

Have you told her ?

 

[Hymerboy]

Have you told her ?

No it's a surprise.

 

[Wildbill]

There's abut 89p gose to the treasury in fuel duty on every ltr
Figures might be wrong but half of the price of a letter gose on taxt
Bill

 

[InvictaMoto]

I am currently two weeks into a three month trip through Europe. France Italy Slovenia Austria Germany Czech Holland and home. Total estimated distance 4000 miles. If fuel was £1.50 a litre it would have cost me £1350 over three months. At £2 a litre that’s £1800 so the real change is the difference between the two. It means an extra £150 a month. I paid £50 last night for a meal and a bottle of wine. The obvious answer to the OP is no effect if you can afford it and big effect if you can’t. Happy travels all…..

I came back from Moravia via Austria and Czech fuel even at Shell stations was the cheapest of all. Shame I was on a bike with a 19L tank...

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[TR5]

Anybody else noticed the lack of reporting of these falsely high fuel costs, we are being conditioned to accept these prices as the norm now, and the government continues to rake in Fuel Duty and VAT on top of that, tax on a tax, surely that is illegal. makes the 5p cut a total farce, as we never saw it at the pumps

I understand your comments, and yes VAT is higher as based on a % of cost, but duty is per litre, so that hasn't changed.

 

[Bessy765]

I spent the last couple of years working up to 85 hrs a week to enjoy our retirement. And thats what I am doing. We have just return from 85 days in France staying at aires and eating local. To give the wife a break from cooking we managed to eat out over70 days. So it may have been mostly free small village aires but we have put into their economy a fair old lump.we had decent food good friendly service. If we had done the same in the UK campsite prices would have taken a big chunk as well as slightly more for fuel. So even allowing for the tunnel we probably had a cheaper holiday over there than staying in the UK. I am well aware not everyone will be in the same position just make the most of it.

 

[InvictaMoto]

To answer the original question.

Booked on Eurotunnel June 29th. Currently with a half full tank of diesel.

Our plans are a rough loop down the east across the Auvergne and back up. Toll free as much as possible. Might use it the first day with the tag.

Don't have to be anywhere by a certain time so off motorway and non-toll seems to be the order of the day.

I already like my life in the slow lane with cruise set to 90kph!!!

If I want to bomb along at 120-130 kp then the V-Strom does that all day.

 

[TeaBiscuit]

It's putting me off, my wife and I are in our 30s (with an 18 month old) so most trips are short.

Previously I didn't mind the drive, was great and could head out on a Friday and get quite far, but with the fuel cost we will probably stay more local otherwise the trip can be quite expensive.

 

[corconx]

We decided to carry on. Very early on decided to stop on Aires for a bit longer

On way home now after 8 weeks. Prices now over €2 here

Follow my trip ‘SPRING 22’
https://www.polarsteps.com/CarolWeaver/4626940-spring-22?s=8412137B-46A4-4AA8-AC35-6D63B26882C8

It says just 49 short if 3000 miles. As opposed to 5-7k trip.

Carol

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[InvictaMoto]

Just out of interest - is fuel still cheaper in Luxembourg as we will be travelling through there on our way to Germany later in the year.

Came through a week ago. Pence cheaper if anything. No queues at any stations like "the old days"

 

[Two of usI]

I was going to comment on our leaders mode of transport, but........ it'll only upset people...... just remember he hasn't got a free bus pass

 

[Cherub]

Just to throw in a little hand grenade, if we all had no choice but to stay local, ie travel less than 100 miles from home, would we be happy with the locations we could reach?
I live in west Devon so Devon and Cornwall are my patch and I feel I hit the jackpot (though I’d miss the many other beautiful places we visit).
How about others.

We’re in a lovely spot too. We’ve just had a fantastic weekend just 32 miles away. Best break ever.

 

[SIFTA SAM]

Do as I say, not as I do! Seems to be the government's mantra

And unfortunately it seems to.be working successfully? Why change things if they are continually accepted by us plebs?

 

[WESTY66]

If we get rid of one colour for another do you think they will turn off the taps to the tax they are raking in whilst it’s high, I can’t see it ever coming down again tbh who ever lives at no10/11

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