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[jockaneezer]

"And it's neck and neck as they come up to the final 201.168 metres" Doesn't conjure up the same excitement as "The final furlong" ?

 

[autorouter]

"And it's neck and neck as they come up to the final 201.168 metres" Doesn't conjure up the same excitement as "The final furlong" ?

Why on earth use these new-fangled 'furlongs'? The Romans called it a 'mile' because is was 1000 paces, each 5 feet, 3 and 3/12 inches. So the final furlong would be the final 125 paces. Sorry, CXXV paces.

 

[Gromett]

Who uses F ?? I was taught in both but F means nothing to me . As a Fridge engineer I had to work in both & can easily swop one to the other but struggle with temps in F.

Youtube videos made with the American market in mind. Even Canadian videos sometimes make this mistake.

You see it a lot of you watch Aerospace related videos.

 

[MattR]

I guess the advantage of going back to imperial is that we won't have to learn how much things are going up in price due to inflation.... JRM etc al are keeping it simple ... what we used to pay per kilo will now be the same price but per pound .....

 

[The Wino]

I guess the advantage of going back to imperial is that we won't have to learn how much things are going up in price due to inflation.... JRM etc al are keeping it simple ... what we used to pay per kilo will now be the same price but per pound .....

Actually that's a point the increase in price per pound will on the face of it look less than the increase per kilo now it makes sense!

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[Outdoors Dad]

Bloody change again we'll all be as confused and dothery as Boris soon......bugger it I'm going for wee dram!

 

[philann]

I was in school in the mid 1960s to 1978, once we were in the top of juniors and all the way through secondary school and university I was taught in metric, I can’t visualise a pound (weight) or a gallon. I have no idea on degrees F. I only use miles in the UK as that is what is on the road signs and like mpg it is just a comparative measure. When talking to colleagues all over the world it is just as easy to say I live about 40km from Exeter as it is to say 25miles.

 

[dash300]

I for one am pleased that choice in measurements returns and not having to abide by the diktat ban of a remote Euro State.
Russia controls it's people by diktat and bans. Surely that is why we are supporting Ukraine in it's right to choose.
Still it's got people and press side tracked on trivia whilst the important stuff gets done.

 

[The Wino]

I for one am pleased that choice in measurements returns and not having to abide by the diktat ban of a remote Euro State.
Russia controls it's people by diktat and bans. Surely that is why we are supporting Ukraine in it's right to choose.
Still it's got people and press side tracked on trivia whilst the important stuff gets done.

The choice was always there thats why we still had pints and miles but if you want to believe in an evil empire why not. It's smoke and mirrors but I do agree probably largely designed to distract attention.

 

[dash300]

The choice was always there thats why we still had pints and miles but if you want to believe in an evil empire why not. It's smoke and mirrors but I do agree probably largely designed to distract attention.

Not quite. There was a U turn by the EU in 2007 to an outright ban. In effect Imperial measurements were not allowed to be displayed in a larger font than Metric. Now there is the proposal as per the Conservative manifesto that people and traders have an equal choice of whichever measurement they wish to use or both on an equal footing.

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[the2ofus]

The choice was always there thats why we still had pints and miles but if you want to believe in an evil empire why not. It's smoke and mirrors but I do agree probably largely designed to distract attention.

Has anyone checked out some of the printed directions in the Caravan & Motorhome Club's book. Part miles and part metres. Where the hell is the sense in that?

 

[The Wino]

Not quite. There was a U turn by the EU in 2007 to an outright ban. In effect Imperial measurements were not allowed to be displayed in a larger font than Metric. Now there is the proposal as per the Conservative manifesto that people and traders have an equal choice of whichever measurement they wish to use or both on an equal footing.

What always surprises me in posts about the EU is that people seem to forget we were part of it and in most cases voted for the measures implemented. Was there a u turn in 2007 or did we vote against it so it didn't happen? . How sensible is a policy of allowing a choice of what measurements to use presumably you could quote a price for an expensive veg I kilos 100 grammes ( a pretty straightforward conversion or pounds ounces or quarter of a pound. How easy for consumers to compare!!!!

 

[kevenh]

Not quite. There was a U turn by the EU in 2007 to an outright ban. In effect Imperial measurements were not allowed to be displayed in a larger font than Metric. Now there is the proposal as per the Conservative manifesto that people and traders have an equal choice of whichever measurement they wish to use or both on an equal footing.

Ignore the European angle.
Metric is a world wide standard.
The imperial units aren’t.

 

[dash300]

Ignore the European angle.
Metric is a world wide standard.
The imperial units aren’t.

But many people still visualise in imperial measurement be it weight area or length. In the same way as I convert my boat speed for people from knots to mph to help their visualisation of speed. So a choice of Imperial or Metric keeps everyone happy.

 

[the2ofus]

Has anyone checked out some of the printed directions in the Caravan & Motorhome Club's book. Part miles and part metres. Where the hell is the sense in that?

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[The Wino]

Has anyone checked out some of the printed directions in the Caravan & Motorhome Club's book. Part miles and part metres. Where the hell is the sense in that?

Who said anything needs to make sense especially where nostalgia is involved.

 

[MattR]

I for one am pleased that choice in measurements returns and not having to abide by the diktat ban of a remote Euro State.
Russia controls it's people by diktat and bans. Surely that is why we are supporting Ukraine in it's right to choose.
Still it's got people and press side tracked on trivia whilst the important stuff gets done.

What important stuff is being done whilst people are "distracted"? I think that most people can see the clumsy attempt to distracted us but haven't forgotten the many other things that should be getting more attention.

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[The Wino]

What important stuff is being done whilst people are "distracted"? I think that most people can see the clumsy attempt to distracted us but haven't forgotten the many other things that should be getting mire attention.

Nice typo cause it is the mire they're trying to distract from!

 

[MattR]

But many people still visualise in imperial measurement be it weight area or length. In the same way as I convert my boat speed for people from knots to mph to help their visualisation of speed. So a choice of Imperial or Metric keeps everyone happy.

We didn't lose the choice of using imperial only the option of using imperial only for weights and measures.

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[MattR]

Nice typo cause it is the mire they're trying to distract from!

I've corrected it for clarity but agree that mire is very appropriate.

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[spikehcm681]

A "traditionalist" motorhomer wants to make a hard-standing for his motorhome, car and boat.

The available space is 32 ft 9 in square and he wants the pad to be about 4" thick.

He is advised to use C20 concrete mix (1 cement :2 sand : 4 aggregate , by weight)

He has a trailer which is 6'6" long, 4' 11 " wide and 1 ' 8" deep.
The trailer has a maximum loading of 10 cwts.

His friendly local builders merchant is also a traditionalist and sells his wares in either cwts or bushels.

Assuming his car does 45 mpg - how many trips will it take him to collect all the materials and how much will it cost him if petrol is £1. 75 per litre and the builders merchant is 9 and a half furlongs away.

He cannot overload this trailer - or exceed the its volume as his next door neighbour is a policeman.

You may consult tables to find the volume/cwt of the materials. (if you can find them!)

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[PaulC70]

One - His neighbours on holidays abroad

 

[Larrynwin]

Handy thread for the usuals to get their little anti shots in.

 

[Kybod]

I worked in a chemical factory where the tank capacity was measured in M3/inch!!
Often I would use a wooden dipstick to measure the wetdip or free height of a tank. However, the dipstick main marks would be in feet, divided into five.
Kept me awake on a night shift.

 

[joe and sue]

And diesel / petrol sold in Gallons

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[Wack]

Because he is a god!

He certainly dips his wick like he is

 

[spikehcm681]

The metric system changed when I was at school from CGS to MKS and that was a long time ago. The imperial system was never taught to pupils for any science subject in the last century, though perhaps for cookery?
I use whatever dimension is useful when doing DIY, late wife (French) thought she was swindled when she ordered a pound in the local shops and did not get 0.5 Kilos in the UK!

You must be younger than me then. I had to work in both foot-poundals and dyne centimeters/sec at first.

 

[spikehcm681]

A "traditionalist" motorhomer wants to make a hard-standing for his motorhome, car and boat.

The available space is 32 ft 9 in square and he wants the pad to be about 4" thick.

He is advised to use C20 concrete mix (1 cement :2 sand : 4 aggregate , by weight)

He has a trailer which is 6'6" long, 4' 11 " wide and 1 ' 8" deep.
The trailer has a maximum loading of 10 cwts.

His friendly local builders merchant is also a traditionalist and sells his wares in either cwts or bushels.

Assuming his car does 45 mpg - how many trips will it take him to collect all the materials and how much will it cost him if petrol is £1. 75 per litre and the builders merchant is 9 and a half furlongs away.

He cannot overload this trailer - or exceed the its volume as his next door neighbour is a policeman.

You may consult tables to find the volume/cwt of the materials. (if you can find them!)

Show your working.

Entries close at 21:00 hrs Portuguese time.

No takers then?

I'm not going to even try it in Imperial.

The same dimensions in metric are :- 10 m x 10 m x 0.1 m = 10 cu m. = 3.2 T cement, 6 T sand and 12 T aggregate = 21.3T

10 cwts is almost the same as 0.5 T so he will have to go 43 times to collect 21.3 T

The trailer is 2 m X 1.5 m x 0.5 m = 1.5 cu.m - so the volume of the trailer is not a limiting factor.

 

[PaulOH]

I always liked pints but over here it's generally 500 mls.
But when it's €1.50 and ice cold, I can put up with it

That is soooo true - particularly from the Irish perspective when the oul 'pint' might be at least €5.

I do take issue though when they won't top it up because it has an 'inch and a half' of head on it - they like that here cos apparently it keeps the fizz in... I recall many's a night in pubs in Dublin when people would look at their foamy-top pints which had just been pulled and say to the barman 'hey buud - wud'ya top tha up!' and it wasn't an ask!!

I have to agree - I'm paying for liquid, not foam!

Mind you, in May, a friend from Norn Iron came over and we sat on the seafront in sunny Barceloneta for a couple of hours and had pints (of the more or less 500cc type - jerras as I called it) and aperitiu and it was lovely, He picked up the tab and said he thought it was really good value... he is welcome back anytime!!!

I believe it was a mistake to get rid of the UK halfpenny and it would be a 100% bigger mistake to get rid of the penny or euro cent.

I know there are costs to handling coins of different sizes but there is a principle at stake here - the pound and euro are 'susbstantial' currencies that deal in small numbers, which means that small number changes mean big differences when they are totalled up. There is a 100% difference when adding one pence/cent to the price of something compared to two pence/cent.

The imperial measurements were comforting because they do what US currencies do - a dime, a quarter etc. = a quarter / a half etc. It is more standard but is a lot less fun to ask for 100grammes.

I worked in Supermac at Breda (for our NI participants) on the deli counter and served the (Canadian??) lady who came in every Saturday morning and asked for two ounces of everything - serve her three and she'd say 'I asked for TWO ounces'... it was such a small quantity!!!

 

[Coolcats]

About time we regained some of our past. Boris is expected to revert back to our sensible imperial weights. That'll confuse some of our weighbridge brigade.

Given that the metric system is more accurate and easyer to use and an internationally system again this is self sabotage. I suspect this is another dead cat story to divert attention from the real issues but what do I know !

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