This is the new server
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That is an AJAX feature so might be the forward proxy. I am going to investigate to see if there is anything I can do but I doubt it sorry. It will resolve itself when your ISP updates the DNS. You could try rebooting your computer and router to clear the cache if you haven't already?
Found it no problem well done all involved in the big funster black out
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Are all those difficult words taken from the Welsh languageYou seem to think I don't know what I am doing. But it seems you don't understand how DNS works in the real world vs theory perhaps?
Just a little polite explanation.
The TTL on our domains were set to 15 minutes over a week ago during the initial planning stages. It was previously 2 hours.
The bit that you perhaps don't know or understand fully is that ISP's like BT etc will ignore the TTL for their ADSL customers if they are set below a certain threshold. From my very long experience this appears to be 12 hours for a lot of ISPs and for some as much as 24 hours. So no matter how low I set the the TTL some ISPs will ignore it.
A further bit of information, just for you as I didn't want to get too technical in this thread.
Last night after the migration was complete I enabled port forwarding on the old server for port 80 and 443 to forward them to the new server using IPTABLES, a technique I have been using since 2012 with 100% success rate..
For some reason although this worked initially it started failing after 10-15 minutes and leaving the connection to hang and timeout. I spent an hour or two trying to solve it, but in the end Jim and I decided it was better to have the holding page of the old server rather than a connection timeout like that. Also it was causing the networking daemon to hang causing ALL new connections on all ports to hang. My existing ssh connection was ok, but if that had got disconnected during a failure I would not have been able to recover without a full server reboot which is not desirable.
This morning after some sleep I decided to implement a forward proxy in nginx on the old server which proxies just this one site. Not as elegant as the firewall port forward as it has to be done on a site by site basis and this server has multiple sites.
So to respond to your "I would sugest not". I have been doing this since 1997. I have migrated many thousands of servers in that time. I have 100% success rate/score across multiple freelance services.
So suggest away
I won't lose any sleep over your lack of confidence
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PS:
The nginx proxy method is a handy one I have used in other scenarios. But never needed for a server migration before. So this will be a method I keep in my back pocket for the next migration where a port forward fails to work (hopefully never does).
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I don't doubt it is happening. I am just limited on what I can do to fix it. I suspect it will clear on it's own when your ISP finally gets around to updating it's DNS.
I have just checked your IP and you are in fact definitely still going to the old server, and are only viewing the new server due to the the forward proxy.
After reading this I ham retiring to a dark room completely.You seem to think I don't know what I am doing? But it seems you don't understand how DNS works in the real world vs theory perhaps?
Just a little polite explanation.
The TTL on our domains were set to 15 minutes over a week ago during the initial planning stages. It was previously 2 hours.
The bit that you perhaps don't know or understand fully is that ISP's like BT etc will ignore the TTL for their ADSL customers if they are set below a certain threshold. From my very long experience this appears to be 12 hours for a lot of ISPs and for some as much as 24 hours. So no matter how low I set the the TTL some ISPs will ignore it.
A further bit of information, just for you as I didn't want to get too technical in this thread.
Last night after the migration was complete I enabled port forwarding on the old server for port 80 and 443 to forward them to the new server using IPTABLES, a technique I have been using since 2012 with 100% success rate..
For some reason although this worked initially it started failing after 10-15 minutes and leaving the connection to hang and timeout. I spent an hour or two trying to solve it, but in the end Jim and I decided it was better to have the holding page of the old server rather than a connection timeout like that. Also it was causing the networking daemon to hang causing ALL new connections on all ports to hang. My existing ssh connection was ok, but if that had got disconnected during a failure I would not have been able to recover without a full server reboot which is not desirable.
This morning after some sleep I decided to implement a forward proxy in nginx on the old server which proxies just this one site. Not as elegant as the firewall port forward as it has to be done on a site by site basis and this server has multiple sites.
So to respond to your "I would sugest not". I have been doing this since 1997. I have migrated many thousands of servers in that time. I have 100% success rate/score across multiple freelance services.
So suggest away
PS:
The nginx proxy method is a handy one I have used in other scenarios. But never needed for a server migration before. So this will be a method I keep in my back pocket for the next migration where a port forward fails to work (hopefully never does).
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All good now....
Yamas
It is possible you are flip flopping between the servers. Should settle down.
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Im using a shortcut that i did when on the new server. Laptop seems to be fine
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They should come - I wasn't getting them earlier today but then they were a few minutes ago but when I just tried now for this post they've gone again!
I have figured out the issue with the smilies.
Can you test now please? Might need to do a hard refresh of your browser.
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I on a phone as I'm away, when I click I get a brief look at the old server then nothing
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i hadn't got smilies or gifs so thought i may have been flip flopping, is that a techie term?, but just tried them a moment ago and i now have 'em, whoohoo..
after a long, long night in the dark and cold and not in the safe bosom of the forum to drive the bogeymen away until about 10.30am'ish, just want to say thanks to both of you, Gromett and Jim , you must both be flippin' nackered..
this site is addictive, the best addiction going as far as i am concerned, even better than chocolate..
after a long, long night in the dark and cold and not in the safe bosom of the forum to drive the bogeymen away until about 10.30am'ish, just want to say thanks to both of you, Gromett and Jim , you must both be flippin' nackered..
this site is addictive, the best addiction going as far as i am concerned, even better than chocolate..
My only issue seems to be I keep getting logged off after about 15 mins.
Even in the middle of reading a thread, suddenly I get inundated with adverts.
Log back in again and I'm OK for another 15 mins or so.
Note:
I always default my setting to NOT 'stay logged in'
(30+ years in IT, so I only ever save log in's/passwords to a secure area, not on the PC or Google memory)
Even in the middle of reading a thread, suddenly I get inundated with adverts.
Log back in again and I'm OK for another 15 mins or so.
Note:
I always default my setting to NOT 'stay logged in'
(30+ years in IT, so I only ever save log in's/passwords to a secure area, not on the PC or Google memory)
You are still flip flopping between the old servers IP and the new servers ip.
Each time this happens you may have to re-login. this will resolve itself when your ISP consistently offers you the new IP address.
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The Gateway not found Errors (502)
I will clear a few things up.
1) This is definitely happening.
2) It is not your fault.
3) It appears to be happening on the old server not the new server. (1800 incidents on the old server only a handful on the new)
So. It will only affect people who's DNS is still not updated. It will not happen on every visit.
The cause is I believe due to the fix I put in place for the smilies issues yesterday.
The three people who have reported the issue that I am aware of. Jim old-mo and tacr2man are all showing the old servers IP.
I think this is one of those things that is not worth me spending too much time fixing as it is VERY intermittent and only affects a few people who are still not seeing the new server IP address.
It will sort itself out. But in the mean time my apologies for any frustration this has and will cause, but be assured it is temporary.
I will clear a few things up.
1) This is definitely happening.
2) It is not your fault.
3) It appears to be happening on the old server not the new server. (1800 incidents on the old server only a handful on the new)
So. It will only affect people who's DNS is still not updated. It will not happen on every visit.
The cause is I believe due to the fix I put in place for the smilies issues yesterday.
The three people who have reported the issue that I am aware of. Jim old-mo and tacr2man are all showing the old servers IP.
I think this is one of those things that is not worth me spending too much time fixing as it is VERY intermittent and only affects a few people who are still not seeing the new server IP address.
It will sort itself out. But in the mean time my apologies for any frustration this has and will cause, but be assured it is temporary.
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(I finally got my smilies back, whey-hey!)
(I finally got my smilies back, whey-hey!)
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Interesting - was reading the forum just now [several topics and pages loaded no problem] & it suddenly came up with Bad Gateway 502 on my Brave browser. Switched to Chrome, same message.
Yet perfectly fine on my phone, same wifi network
Turned on my VPN and forum loaded as normal.
Was it the Chrome/Brave browsers having a glitch?
Edit:
Switched off VPN, everything seems ok
Yet perfectly fine on my phone, same wifi network
Turned on my VPN and forum loaded as normal.
Was it the Chrome/Brave browsers having a glitch?
Edit:
Switched off VPN, everything seems ok
It is because you are still hitting the old server occasionally. For some reason your ISP has really held onto the old IP address for a long time.
The old server is occasionally having issues due to the patch I put in place to ensure smilies,notification, search etc work. The gateway errors only affects people who's ISP is sending them to the old server and is intermittent.
It happened 3 times yesterday for a few minutes each time. I admit I am loath to spend time trying to fix it as any fix may cause another problem and it is now affecting very few people.
Just checked and you were still hitting the old server up till 12:28 this afternoon. Since then you have come from 2 different IP addresses directly to the new server.
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Can’t get fun in my iPad, was fine last night but no matter what I do as in clearing cookies and history and deleting motorhomefun favourites.. luckily can get it on my phone but I’m hotspotting to my phone..
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You were hitting the old server until 10:48 am today. Then 25 minutes ago you came from a new ip address directly to the new server.Can’t get fun in my iPad, was fine last night but no matter what I do as in clearing cookies and history and deleting motorhomefun favourites.. luckily can get it on my phone but I’m hotspotting to my phone..
You should still be able to get in.
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Only just got back on after getting bad gateway was ok yesterday
It’s gone again…
I give up
I give up
What's gone again, you are still posting and not seeing any activity from the old IP?It’s gone again…
I give up
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