This is the new server

[nicholsong]

I just used option 5 (Waiting) and got on about 1000 BST.

All seems fine. Thanks Jim. Sleep well.

 

[Dutch 68]

Working , not working , now working again,
Not a clue about the advise how to solve it, I can just turn it on and off , anything more technical and it gets troublesome

 

[Badknee]

Where the hells a seven year old when you need one?

 

[LithiumConvert]

Yes we've done this [change the DNS TTL] a number of times now.

Far too late doing it now. It needed to have been done at least 48 hours before you started the move.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

It won’t let me load an attachment (a pasted article about mediocre managers) - tried a few times from a few devices but otherwise ok

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[LithiumConvert]

. @Gromett migrates a couple of servers most nights and has done for years, so we know where we are.

As we were all locked out for so long, I would sugest not.

 

[Gromett]

It won’t let me load an attachment (a pasted article about mediocre managers) - tried a few times from a few devices but otherwise ok

Sorry I don't understand what you mean? Load an attachment?
Do you mean upload an attachment or view an attachment? Not being pedantic, need to understand the exact issue?

 

[rb62]

Got on at last but when you use the @ in front of someones name it used to show you that it had worked before you posted but now it doesn't Gromett

 

[Gromett]

rb62 works fine for me. I think your issue is probably unrelated. Have you tried clearing your browser cache and cookies?

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean? Load an attachment?
Do you mean upload an attachment or view an attachment? Not being pedantic, need to understand the exact issue?

View attachment 900797

I copied the DT article about managers failing upwards and went to paste it as normal on to the thread but it simply “jumped” and nothing was pasted - as if I had never tried.

The link will paste but not any text copied from it, which is unusual

Paula Vennells is the bland face of British mediocrity

Here’s a scary thought: how many more bureaucrats and managers have been promoted well beyond their capabilities?

www.telegraph.co.uk

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[Langtoftlad]

As we were all locked out for so long, I would sugest not.

I was 'locked out' as you tactlessly put it for less than 2h... which I think suggests the migration was done effectively, efficiently and with expertise.

 

[Gromett]

I copied the DT article about managers failing upwards and went to paste it as normal on to the thread but it simply “jumped” and nothing was pasted - as if I had never tried

was it a screen shot of the article or a copy and paste of the actual text?

 

[DuxDeluxe]

was it a screen shot of the article or a copy and paste of the actual text?

It was a copy and paste of the article itself, which did include images

 

[suavecarve]

My memory bank maybe wrong but I thought Jim upped the amount of threads on page 1 to 50 ?
Currently showing 30.

Apologies if wrong

Gromett

 

[Gromett]

It was a copy and paste of the article itself, which did include images

This is just a test.

Six beers that are good for your gut health – and the ones to avoid​

Research points to some beers being better for you than others – so which are the ones to go for?

Guinness is Good for You is one of the most famous advertising campaigns in history, but away from the slogans and billboards, it appears there could have been a grain of truth in the suggestion that everyone’s favourite stout does something positive for the body.
In recent years, researchers have been accumulating evidence to suggest that certain beers could help improve the diversity of species in the gut microbiome, something which tends to be associated with health benefits. In 2022, a study in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry followed 22 men who drank a little more than half a pint of beer every day for four weeks and found that they subsequently had better markers of intestinal health.
Now, a review of experiments published in the journal Frontiers in Nutrition has concluded that the various ingredients within beer may have a positive impact on the immune system, when broken down and fermented within the gut.

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[LithiumConvert]

I was 'locked out' as you tactlessly put it for less than 2h... which I think suggests the migration was done effectively, efficiently and with expertise.

Yes, I do tend to call a spade a spade. I would add a smilie here, but the link tries to get them fron the old server.
added manually.

Only 2 hours. Where have you been?

 

[Gromett]

It was a copy and paste of the article itself, which did include images

Sorry I can't replicate the problem so can't assist sorry. Think it may be something at your end.
May possibly be an artifact of the forward proxy but not sure how to be honest.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Sorry I can't replicate the problem so can't assist sorry. Think it may be something at your end.
May possibly be an artifact of the forward proxy but not sure how to be honest.

Just tried again, using exactly the same as before and it works, so something somewhere must have cleared. The article is well worth a read, by the way
Thanks for the efforts

 

[rb62]

rb62 works fine for me. I think your issue is probably unrelated. Have you tried clearing your browser cache and cookies?

Frequently

 

[Jim]

As we were all locked out for so long, I would sugest not.

I can arrange a pro-rata refund for you if you wish.

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[LithiumConvert]

I can arrange a pro rate refund for you if you wish.

Not needed, Thank You, Jim.

But if nobody says anything ......

 

[Sedge5]

Well - I couldn’t get on early this morning but fine (‘This is the new server’ message) a few hours later. Thanks.

 

[Jim]

My memory bank maybe wrong but I thought Jim upped the amount of threads on page 1 to 50 ?
Currently showing 30.

Apologies if wrong

Gromett

It’s been 30 for a while now

 

[Jim]

Not needed, Thank You, Jim.

But if nobody says anything ......

Yes, where would we be without some expert saying; Oh, you don’t wanna do it like that.

 

[carolyn]

I’ve only just got back in. I’ve been to the gym as normal but I still wasn’t in so had to go shopping. It wasn’t too costly. Well compared to last Friday at the Newbury show anyway

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[Gromett]

Far too late doing it now. It needed to have been done at least 48 hours before you started the move.

As we were all locked out for so long, I would sugest not.

You seem to think I don't know what I am doing? But it seems you don't understand how DNS works in the real world vs theory perhaps?

Just a little polite explanation.
The TTL on our domains were set to 15 minutes over a week ago during the initial planning stages. It was previously 2 hours.

The bit that you perhaps don't know or understand fully is that ISP's like BT etc will ignore the TTL for their ADSL customers if they are set below a certain threshold. From my very long experience this appears to be 12 hours for a lot of ISPs and for some as much as 24 hours. So no matter how low I set the the TTL some ISPs will ignore it.

A further bit of information, just for you as I didn't want to get too technical in this thread.
Last night after the migration was complete I enabled port forwarding on the old server for port 80 and 443 to forward them to the new server using IPTABLES, a technique I have been using since 2012 with 100% success rate..
For some reason although this worked initially it started failing after 10-15 minutes and leaving the connection to hang and timeout. I spent an hour or two trying to solve it, but in the end Jim and I decided it was better to have the holding page of the old server rather than a connection timeout like that. Also it was causing the networking daemon to hang causing ALL new connections on all ports to hang. My existing ssh connection was ok, but if that had got disconnected during a failure I would not have been able to recover without a full server reboot which is not desirable.

This morning after some sleep I decided to implement a forward proxy in nginx on the old server which proxies just this one site. Not as elegant as the firewall port forward as it has to be done on a site by site basis and this server has multiple sites.

So to respond to your "I would sugest not". I have been doing this since 1997. I have migrated many thousands of servers in that time. I have 100% success rate/score across multiple freelance services.
So suggest away I won't lose any sleep over your lack of confidence .

PS:
The nginx proxy method is a handy one I have used in other scenarios. But never needed for a server migration before. So this will be a method I keep in my back pocket for the next migration where a port forward fails to work (hopefully never does).

 

[Tombola]

Again, just FYI

read my alerts, bell shows clear

refresh the page and same alert shows again,

been happening since the move, if I get another alert that new one clears the repeat offender, then the new alert takes the same stance and keep showing till another alert knocks it off.

 

[Tombola]

Again, just FYI

read my alerts, bell shows clear
View attachment 900817

refresh the page and same alert shows again,
View attachment 900818

been happening since the move, if I get another alert that new one clears the repeat offender, then the new alert takes the same stance and keep showing till another alert knocks it off.

Ignore....just seems resolved

 

[Gromett]

Again, just FYI

read my alerts, bell shows clear
View attachment 900817

refresh the page and same alert shows again,
View attachment 900818

been happening since the move, if I get another alert that new one clears the repeat offender, then the new alert takes the same stance and keep showing till another alert knocks it off.

It is possible although I do not know how. That the forward proxy I am using to get you from the old server to the new server is not handling ajax calls properly. Unfortunately there is nothing I can do to fix that sorry. But once your DNS catches up it will all start working. The forward proxy is not a perfect solution but it gets most functionality up and running for those on ISP's that are slow to update DNS.

 

[MikenPauline]

I appear to have the new server but when I type in search for a member no suggestions come up as they did previously. Any suggestions?

Pauline

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