The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road. (105 Viewers)

[Northernraider]

Is there a rubber seal outside up against the moving window? I seem to remember that ours had shrunk a bit where it met the vertical black bar and needed a bit of black sikaflex in the corner, yes it's just a vertical brush seal on the forward edge, could it be a bit cruddy under the sliding window runner stopping any water running into the first channel so it's going over into the second/inside one.

Yes you're correct there's a rubber seal there and a bit missing so I may have to put a bit sealant on that see If it helps .

 

[Flairy]

Mines identical yes some ones put a strip,I directed mine to the front and away.

 

[gus-lopez]

As said availble at any plumbers.get a new one ,add fitting on the left which will be thread to a barb connector, clamp hose with two bits thin wood & mole grips & remove valve in that shut position & change it live.

I have to put a bit tissue in the corner to soak it up

That isn't "a bit" that isn't even a "speck" .tear an old T shirt in half & shove that along it for now until you drill/cut another slot to allow it back to the other channel

That's a previous owners attempt at solving the problem ..because the water coming down inside channel has nowhere to go unfortunately

as above

Those ball valves are available any plumbers merchants/ hydraulics not worth fiddling with .

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[Ditcha]

Yes it's definitely the engine side the valve is on . I've taken a couple of photos now. There's a wee screw on the top of the valve and it's a little loose and the water seems to come from under that valve. I'll try tightening it a little .. ( when rain stops and I can get my tools ) View attachment 955283View attachment 955284View attachment 955286

The window is a confusing one. There's 2 channels inside and the water seems to come down the inside one more which makes it harder to get to the drain holes
I have to put a bit tissue in the corner to soak it up otherwise it comes over the edge and you can see from last photo it's done that before while it's been parked up as its stained the wall under window a little.

I'm not parked perfectly level which won't help but I'll need to find a way of stopping that View attachment 955288View attachment 955289View attachment 955290View attachment 955291

Had the same problem with the Alde valve on our Dethleffs if I remember correctly the ends it screws into are tapered threads and if it's been over tightened it cracks the valve ours had a hairline crack and took ages to suss out .

 

[Capri Keith]

Re your ball valve. The screw on top only holds the plastic handle in place, I don’t think there will be a gland nut under handle. Just smiffy idea may work but they start to leak they don’t get any better. As has also been said they are easy to over tighten and crack the body.

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[Mikey RV]

Are you running your Alde heating on gas Tam. And can you run it off your battery setup or do you have to be on hook up to run it on electric.

 

[Flairy]

It can only be electric or gas but you can run it through the inverter if you want I didn’t want that so made sure it wasn’t on the ring from the inverter 240 v.

 

[Mikey RV]

That’s what I thought but with Tam not using EHU he can only use it on gas.

 

[Barriesimpson]

There's a wee screw on the top of the valve and it's a little loose and the water seems to come from under that valve. I'll try tightening it a little .. ( when rain stops and I can get my tools ) View attachment 955283View attachment 955284

That wee screw just fixes the plastic handle to the valve, you'll not cure the leak by tightening it up. I would suggest the valve itself needs repalacing.

 

[gpz]

i would leave the ball valve well alone if you start turning it could make it worse there is no gland under the black handle

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[Just smiffy]

I haven’t even looked at this valve yet, I’m sure we’ll get it fixed….

I think he just makes up these jobs so he doesn’t have to leave, he’s on about buying plants now and I hope he don’t put them in my artificial grass… I’m sure I’ll go out there one day and he’ll have a little picket fence around the van with a post box, even my postie man has a daily chat with him now….

 

[Mikey RV]

Watch he don’t claim squatters rights Gary.

 

[JockandRita]

But in heavy rain the water comes quicker than it drains and the drain holes are clear as I cleaned them all out last week .

Without wishing to state the obvious Tam, but did you remove the outer grey caps from the outer frame when you cleaned out the drain holes, as well as the inner frame black caps covering the drain holes?
The cut outs between the channels are the manufacturers design.

Just finished the final stage of replacing the Gaslow system and altering the filler point, with a bit of help from a local fellow Funster and his step drill , as I hate drilling holes anywhere in the MH.

Previous setup.



New setup.




We did consider an underslung bulk gas tank when we first got the Flair, but have managed fine with just the 2 x 11s.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[alex n]

DeliveredOrder date:23 Jan, 2023Order total:£24.16Order number:25-09611-66054
View order detailsFLOCKED LINED RUBBER SLIDING WINDOW CHANNEL 10MM X 10MM U / UPTO 4.75MM GLASS


Delivered on Fri 27 Jan
Return window closed on 26 Feb.
FLOCKED LINED RUBBER SLIDING WINDOW CHANNEL 10MM X 10MM U / UPTO 4.75MM GLASS
Quantity: 2
£25.98

Hi Tam, don't know if this will help. Bought for my sliding windows and was a success.

 

[Northernraider]

I haven’t even looked at this valve yet, I’m sure we’ll get it fixed….

I think he just makes up these jobs so he doesn’t have to leave, he’s on about buying plants now and I hope he don’t put them in my artificial grass… I’m sure I’ll go out there one day and he’ll have a little picket fence around the van with a post box, even my postie man has a daily chat with him now….

Watch he don’t claim squatters rights Gary.

Have you seen the weather in Cornwall lol.. there's nae danger I'd be here after October lol.

But Just smiffy has made me very comfortable, it's been nice having a bit company and banter too I must admit.

But no need to panic as I am getting itchy feet. Just want to fix all the issues I can before hitting the road.

I will have to run the heating for a few hours at some point to make sure it's all OK and no leaks etc from the Alde side of things

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[Northernraider]

Had a lovely productive day today ..

Pics later

 

[L' Hobo]

Just smiffy was saying to work it on and off for a few minutes to see if that stops it as it's possibly leaking from lack of use. Can't hurt I suppose. I'll have a look at it this afternoon.

My advice would be to junk those type of valves, they are rubbish!
As for the window leak, those drain holes are really only for condensation and often get bunged up with dust and dead insects that make them their home especially it hasn't been moved for a long time, presumably you have checked they are clear?

Whenever I have a window leak, I run a strip of Gaffer tape along the top outside edge of the window sealing it directly to the body, just to eliminate the the leak is not seeping past the seal. It's surprising the number of times this has stopped the leak immediately.
If it does, it's either a new seal or some sealant. If it doesn't, I look elsewhere!

As my van is silver and so is the gaffer tape,(other colours and even clear, are available) it is hardly noticeable and has, sometimes, been in situ for weeks! Good luck!

 

[L' Hobo]

Watch he don’t claim squatters rights Gary.

After 6yrs he can do that!