The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[Helen Ariel]

Helen Ariel Please tell me Beech is still alive?

No I'm afraid it's nearly 2 years ago now we did post about scattering her ashes in the Alps at the start of our last thread. https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-adventure-to-africa.295926/

 

[corconx]

It’s been a quiet day today boys. Hope you got some of your jobs done between the rain.

Night night

 

[Northernraider]

Dry day today so ...going to attempt to find this garage leak with Just smiffy applying a hose from the ground up while I sit in the garage with a torch and see if I can see where its coming in . Worse case scenario we may have to remove the rear bumper which I'd rather not do as its nicely fitted and sealed but if needs must. Also going to have a look at the lights situation as I'm convinced it's one bad connection to the rear tail light on rhs that's putting all the lights out on that side. I've a front sidelight and rear number plate light out on the lhs but I suspect that's due to a bulb and corrosion. I've new number plate lights here which I'll fit today and the new headlamps are on order. The leak is on the opposite side to that with the non working taillight . But if there's something leaking behind bumper it's worth checking both sides to avoid future problems. First thing will be to hoover up behind the bumper where the lights are as Just smiffy won't go near there the state its in just now lol

Spiddy webs and dead things everywhere



Speaking of dead things the local cats left me and the dogs a present overnight .

 

[Flairy]

I had to take my bumper off the lights have to come off first,there’s screws behind that go in the body.Then it had to be reseal each side.im afraid I caught the gate post leaving the house.

 

[JockandRita]

Also going to have a look at the lights situation as I'm convinced it's one bad connection to the rear tail light on rhs that's putting all the lights out on that side. I've a front sidelight and rear number plate light out on the lhs but I suspect that's due to a bulb and corrosion.

We have very recently been there and suffered the same Tam. I tried all I knew, as a 5A fuse in the horrendously inaccessible fuse box kept blowing. At first I thought the corroded number plate lights were at fault. Replaced with new, and the bleddy fuse blew again. Even after isolating all the side marker lights individually, I couldn't suss it out. As my usual leccie chap wasn't availble, I got in touch with another recommended leccie chap. 2.5 hours and £137 later, the @#£%^&> problem was still there. I pleaded with my usual chap to fit me in. He did, and within minutes of arriving and connecting a test lamp into that circuit, the problem was found. Apparently, the only marker light I didn't isolate in my efforts, was the top RH red marker light.
Behind it is a big structural metal bar. The minimal insulation on the lamp term8nals had worn away over the years, and was causing the circuit to short out. Gordon &^^£#@ Bennett.

He splayed them and made up a fly lead to extend the terminals, and reinsulated them. Jobs a good un.

Good luck.

Jock.

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

Speaking of dead things the local cats left me and the dogs a present overnight .

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Bad enough them rats chewing stuff now the come “tooled up”with bloody spades

 

[Razamataz]

Dry day today so ...going to attempt to find this garage leak with Just smiffy applying a hose from the ground up while I sit in the garage with a torch and see if I can see where its coming in . Worse case scenario we may have to remove the rear bumper which I'd rather not do as its nicely fitted and sealed but if needs must. Also going to have a look at the lights situation as I'm convinced it's one bad connection to the rear tail light on rhs that's putting all the lights out on that side. I've a front sidelight and rear number plate light out on the lhs but I suspect that's due to a bulb and corrosion. I've new number plate lights here which I'll fit today and the new headlamps are on order. The leak is on the opposite side to that with the non working taillight . But if there's something leaking behind bumper it's worth checking both sides to avoid future problems. First thing will be to hoover up behind the bumper where the lights are as Just smiffy won't go near there the state its in just now lol

Spiddy webs and dead things everywhere



Speaking of dead things the local cats left me and the dogs a present overnight .

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Who the fek that trowel there???

 

[Flairy]

It’s all done now

 

[Just smiffy]

Bad enough them rats chewing stuff now the come “tooled up”with bloody spades

That’s so they can dig their tunnels….

 

[Northernraider]

We have very recently been there and suffered the same Tam. I tried all I knew, as a 5A fuse in the horrendously inaccessible fuse box kept blowing. At first I thought the corroded number plate lights were at fault. Replaced with new, and the bleddy fuse blew again. Even after isolating all the side marker lights individually, I couldn't suss it out. As my usual leccie chap wasn't availble, I got in touch with another recommended leccie chap. 2.5 hours and £137 later, the @#£%^&> problem was still there. I pleaded with my usual chap to fit me in. He did, and within minutes of arriving and connecting a test lamp into that circuit, the problem was found. Apparently, the only marker light I didn't isolate in my efforts, was the top RH red marker light.
Behind it is a big structural metal bar. The minimal insulation on the lamp term8nals had worn away over the years, and was causing the circuit to short out. Gordon &^^£#@ Bennett.

He splayed them and made up a fly lead to extend the terminals, and reinsulated them. Jobs a good un.

Good luck.

Jock.

I've checked the fuses and they're OK...it seems to have put out the entire rhs circuit on this , for some reason though the lhs front sidelight and lhs number plate light works off the right hand side circuit and vice versa. I haven't found the fault yet ..

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[Northernraider]

Who the fek that trowel there???

I put the trowel there to show the size of the rat as the other photo doesn't really give a clue to how big it is

 

[Northernraider]

Spent ages trying to suss out this leak .. think we've found the culprit but need to reseal a whole load of bits round the rear end where sealant has either perished or disappeared completely.


You start one job though and end up doing others in the process and the day runs away with you

 

[Flairy]

There’s not enough hours in the day for you

 

[headlight]

Spent ages trying to suss out this leak .. think we've found the culprit but need to reseal a whole load of bits round the rear end where sealant has either perished or disappeared completely.


You start one job though and end up doing others in the process and the day runs away with you

But think how happy you will be when it's all ship shape and Bristol fashion and you're having a cold beer in some warmer/sunnier climes.

 

[JockandRita]

Exactly the same problem Tam with opposite lights functional, etc, however, every time I turned the side lights on, it blew one of two 5A fuses which covers the side light circuits.
With being a Fiat, your fuse layout will be different to ours.........and hopefully more accessible for you.

Good luck,

Jock.

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[Flairy]

I think it’s an Iveco,mine the Fiat

 

[JockandRita]

I think it’s an Iveco,mine the Fiat

Yes, thanks Flairy, I was getting yours and Tam's mixed up, ie, Iveco 2.8 TDi.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Abacist]

I've checked the fuses and they're OK...it seems to have put out the entire rhs circuit on this , for some reason though the lhs front sidelight and lhs number plate light works off the right hand side circuit and vice versa. I haven't found the fault yet ..

I was told that if a whole side was out it is probably a failed relay. Passing it on in the hope it might help. Relays should be in the main fuse box under the bonnet.

 

[Northernraider]

I was told that if a whole side was out it is probably a failed relay. Passing it on in the hope it might help. Relays should be in the main fuse box under the bonnet.

My main fuse box is inside under the steering wheel. I'm not aware of a relay for sidelights though but I will check.

 

[Northernraider]

Got nowhere with the lighting fault today , think we found where the leak was , and have resealed the mouldings on the rear lhs, will retest it with water tomorrow to see if it's cured.

While checking the front sidelight bulbs I ended up removing the trims from round front lights, removed the leaking headlamp washers , blanked off the hose for those and cleaned up behind and around the headlamps, still waiting on my new lights from opie oils .

Went to change number plate lights but the ones I bought from ebay are not the Same size and don't cover exsisting holes so will need to look for other ones .

Will have another look at light issues tomorrow once I check to see if the leak is sorted and seal the other side up to prevent the same thing happening there.

Just smiffy traced the wiring back from the batteries to the big side locker where my electrics are so we've confirmed it's possible to move my battery from the boot in to that locker. That will shorten my cables for a b2b etc and will make all my electrics in the one area.

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[Langtoftlad]

To make up for Northernraider being negligent with his doggie pics

 

[jongood]

Got nowhere with the lighting fault today , think we found where the leak was , and have resealed the mouldings on the rear lhs, will retest it with water tomorrow to see if it's cured.

While checking the front sidelight bulbs I ended up removing the trims from round front lights, removed the leaking headlamp washers , blanked off the hose for those and cleaned up behind and around the headlamps, still waiting on my new lights from opie oils .

Went to change number plate lights but the ones I bought from ebay are not the Same size and don't cover exsisting holes so will need to look for other ones .

Will have another look at light issues tomorrow once I check to see if the leak is sorted and seal the other side up to prevent the same thing happening there.

Just smiffy traced the wiring back from the batteries to the big side locker where my electrics are so we've confirmed it's possible to move my battery from the boot in to that locker. That will shorten my cables for a b2b etc and will make all my electrics in the one area.


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Something is ringing a bell here funflair JockandRita Am I right in thinking that one of these episodes turned out to be a corroded bulb holder?

 

[Northernraider]

Something is ringing a bell here funflair JockandRita Am I right in thinking that one of these episodes turned out to be a corroded bulb holder?

I had hoped it would be something simple like that but it seems to have no power to any of the lights on that one circuit. So my guess would have been a fuse or a relay or a bad connection in the wiring to the rear... the front sidelight bulb also being out put a spanner in that idea though. But I'll investigate it more today . If no luck I might have to get an auto spark on the case

 

[Shrimp]

Probably a ‘small wee beastie’ been at the wires!

 

[Northernraider]

Probably a ‘small wee beastie’ been at the wires!

That's always possible

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[JockandRita]

Something is ringing a bell here funflair JockandRita Am I right in thinking that one of these episodes turned out to be a corroded bulb holder?

In funflair Martin's case, I believe it was Jon, ie, a corroded number plate light, as they do seem to attract moisture. Thinking the same from Martin's input, I changed both over for new ones, but my problem still existed, initially intermittently, but then it became permanent, hence having to bring in an Auto Electrician.
It's just a pity my usual chap wasn't so busy that he couldn't fit me in sooner. As above, he found the fault within minutes, whereas A.N. Other couldn't in the space of 2.5hrs, but still charged for the privilege.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[JockandRita]

While checking the front sidelight bulbs I ended up removing the trims from round front lights, removed the leaking headlamp washers , blanked off the hose for those and cleaned up behind and around the headlamps, still waiting on my new lights from opie oils .

If not already done Tam, I did a mod which allows me to change the dipped beam from UK to EU, and back again within seconds. It was done on the previous Hymer for me by Peter Hambilton.

Dipped beam - UK to EU - and back.

Following on from a recent thread on changing the dipped beam using beam benders, etc, I have carried out a mod on our lamps, which was first done for us on our old Hymer, by Peter Hambilton (Lancs) now retired. First of all, if your lamps are of this type............. ..............then the...

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Cheers,

Jock.

 

[csd4t]

I had hoped it would be something simple like that but it seems to have no power to any of the lights on that one circuit. So my guess would have been a fuse or a relay or a bad connection in the wiring to the rear... the front sidelight bulb also being out put a spanner in that idea though. But I'll investigate it more today . If no luck I might have to get an auto spark on the case

Just give em a tap, worked for the mot station

 

[Northernraider]

If not already done Tam, I did a mod which allows me to change the dipped beam from UK to EU, and back again within seconds. It was done on the previous Hymer for me by Peter Hambilton.

Dipped beam - UK to EU - and back.

Following on from a recent thread on changing the dipped beam using beam benders, etc, I have carried out a mod on our lamps, which was first done for us on our old Hymer, by Peter Hambilton (Lancs) now retired. First of all, if your lamps are of this type............. ..............then the...

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

Cheers,

Jock.

That's handy to know....I think funflair mentioned that a few days back too.

I've not got the new lights yet but I'll investigate that when I'm fitting them .

Just give em a tap, worked for the mot station

Yeah they never thought that one through lol. Lying barstewards

 

[Northernraider]

Well the leak appears to be sorted. Just some old sealant that had obviously given up over the years . Resealed it all yesterday and just given it the hose test and no more leak . I've given the other side the hose test too and no sign of that leaking but the sealant does look a bit iffy in places so I'll probably just reseal that side too


Still no joy with the lights .. I've traced all the wiring back from every side marker back to the tail lights with no sign of anything amiss , then followed the loom from the rear all the way to the front where it goes up in to the engine bay ... and all the cables amass behind the engine battery.. I think to investigate that any further I'll have to take the battery out. In my mind it has to be a connection or fuse between fuse box and where it branches off to feed the front sidelight as if it was after that I'd imagine the front one would work . It's an annoying fault . All the other lights work and they're in the same loom so I don't think it's been a mouse etc

While I've been rummaging in engine bay I've been looking at various other bits , this engine is nothing like the fiat ducato 2.8 jtd , everything on this van is massive , the turbo is completely different and not a simple job to test the waste gate on this ...the big spanner trick used on the ducato is no good. Even compared to moby it's a proper beast of a truck , the front brake calipers are nearly twice the size , it's a chunky bugger that's for sure.

Access to the engine is not the easiest but I think with intercooler removed it will be much easier. The more I poke around it though the more at ease I become with its condition. Its mostly flakey paint here and there and the mechanics and structure is very sound indeed. I think this lights issue will be something very simple it's just finding the bugger . Will try and remove battery this afternoon and have a look .

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