The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

Maybe he should be renamed 'Velcro'! 😄
I think it is time Just smiffy recognised for being an extra special funster Jim. I am not forgetting Lenny HB s and @Macellan s efforts on dear departed Moby but Gary, you have been a true gentleman and friend.
 
I think it is time Just smiffy recognised for being an extra special funster Jim. I am not forgetting Lenny HB s and @Macellan s efforts on dear departed Moby but Gary, you have been a true gentleman and friend.
Yeah I second that.

Not just me he's helped out but many others too.

A wee lifetime membership widdnae go a miss 😉 Jim
 
OK thanks... unfortunately my phone doesn't accept e-sims.

Not to worry.
I'll either get a local sim or,
rely on hotel WiFi, or
take a mobile phone break.
I tried to buy a tourist sim but they make it really complicated. Have to take passport etc etc and it was nearly £30 they quoted me so I opted for the esim as it was instant
 
I think it is time Just smiffy recognised for being an extra special funster Jim. I am not forgetting Lenny HB s and @Macellan s efforts on dear departed Moby but Gary, you have been a true gentleman and friend.

Yeah I second that.

Not just me he's helped out but many others too.

A wee lifetime membership widdnae go a miss 😉 Jim[/USER just
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Thank you but I’m just doing what anyone else would do for a friend and funster, there are far more deserving people on here…🍻
 
Thank you but I’m just doing what anyone else would do for a friend and funster, there are far more deserving people on here…🍻
i hear you Just smiffy but there really isn’t, you my friend are a rockstar and an inspiration👍👍
 
Don’t forget the Brazilian….😉😎
I wouldn't have done Garry, had I known she was going with you. ;)

Five Nations Grand Moroccan Tour.

But I've already ordered the 5 pin non closing relay now
It's a normally closed relay Tam, opening and breaking the circuit when it gets an electrical signal. (y)

Cheers.

Jock. :)
 
If it’s any use Tam, I followed Pausim ‘s instructions and circuit diagram on post #24 in this thread when I fitted my B2B with a NC relay.

It’s worked like a charm ever since.


Good luck.

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Its the Square Sausage and Haggis, Black Pudding, White Pudding from the butchers in Troon I miss the most, plus at least 4 proper morning rolls with the semolina flour dusting on top. Nearly forgot!....Thin cut round Ayrshire bacon sizzling in the pan.
The Haggis from Stornoway is over rated, and over priced IMHO,I always buy a whole unsliced Black Pudding to bring back to England when I visit family up there, plus a sack of Ayrshire Potatoes if in season.
Nom Nom Eating GIF by Laff

LES
 
Thats south of the border prices :giggle:
Nope, that was at Ayr. :oops: Cheapest ones we saw were £2.50 a kilo.

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If it’s any use Tam, I followed Pausim ‘s instructions and circuit diagram on post #24 in this thread when I fitted my B2B with a NC relay.

It’s worked like a charm ever since.


Good luck.
I have the full installation instructions from a post done by offgrid solutions. As its on their website its easier to follow without all the tooing and throwing
 
i hear you Just smiffy but there really isn’t, you my friend are a rockstar and an inspiration👍👍
If you've heard him sing he's no rockstar lol .. think fingernails and blackboard unlike my silky smooth vocals 😁🤣

But he is an inspiration.


But stop blowing smoke up his arse as if his head gets too big he won't fit in my side locker and he's got wiring to finish lol.
 
The wiring looks simple according to this
Screenshot_20240923_064613_Samsung Internet.jpg


I have just one question

Actually 2 questions. I don't have busbars ... so does the negative go to - on battery instead?

And the one that goes to 12v lifepo in ...does that go inline or on to the 12v battery in on the distribution board ?
 
I have just one question

Actually 2 questions. I don't have busbars ... so does the negative go to - on battery instead?

And the one that goes to 12v lifepo in ...does that go inline or on to the 12v battery in on the distribution board ?
RogerIvy and nigelivy?

Jock.
 
The wiring looks simple according to this
View attachment 954031

I have just one question

Actually 2 questions. I don't have busbars ... so does the negative go to - on battery instead?

And the one that goes to 12v lifepo in ...does that go inline or on to the 12v battery in on the distribution board ?
You can connect it to the battery negative. Or to any negative, it’s very low current as it’s only used to activate the coil in the relay. If you have a shunt best to connect it to the system terminal - although the current draw is so small.

For the pos we usually try to connect it to the battery +, but any decent leisure + will do really. Sometimes it’s not really required and sometimes it’s used for the fridge when you’re driving - depends on your electrics. If it will power your fridge then make sure the source can carry 15a-ish

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Its the Square Sausage and Haggis, Black Pudding, White Pudding from the butchers in Troon I miss the most, plus at least 4 proper morning rolls with the semolina flour dusting on top. Nearly forgot!....Thin cut round Ayrshire bacon sizzling in the pan.
The Haggis from Stornoway is over rated, and over priced IMHO,I always buy a whole unsliced Black Pudding to bring back to England when I visit family up there, plus a sack of Ayrshire Potatoes if in season.
Nom Nom Eating GIF by Laff

LES
When we used to visit gran in Glasgow we used to stock up with a sweet, I think they were called butter drops. It’s knocking on 60 years since I last bought them so may have name wrong. They were the size and shape of mint imperials but were a golden yellow colour. Couldn’t get them back down in England
 
Tam post up the link to the relay you have ordered.

Do you just want to stop the hab electrical control system which includes the split charge relay sending a charge to the hab battery when the engine is running ???????

Is there only 1 wire connecting the hab electrics/controller to the hab battery ???????
 
Tam post up the link to the relay you have ordered.

Do you just want to stop the hab electrical control system which includes the split charge relay sending a charge to the hab battery when the engine is running ???????

Is there only 1 wire connecting the hab electrics/controller to the hab battery ???????
The picture he put up earlier just looks like a standard relay or am I missing something? 🤔
 
The wiring looks simple according to this
View attachment 954031

I have just one question

Actually 2 questions. I don't have busbars ... so does the negative go to - on battery instead?

And the one that goes to 12v lifepo in ...does that go inline or on to the 12v battery in on the distribution board ?
Really clear instructions. 👍
 
I just hope Tam can find a local D+ on The CBE Board, its not always easy to find as there are so many models used over the years.
LES

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L' Hobo at least 3 very common types of relay.
3 pin Normally open
3 pin Normally closed
5 pin switching.
And then there's the amperage that they need to support.
 
L' Hobo at least 3 very common types of relay.
3 pin Normally open
3 pin Normally closed
5 pin switching.
And then there's the amperage that they need to support.
I bought the one from amazon from the link supplied on this post from roger ivy at offgrid solutions.

 
Excellent article but in your case Tam it's a bit overkill.
 
Hit post by mistake.

Correct me if I'm wrong but all U want to do is stop the hab electronics sending any charge to the hab battery when the engine is running.

The hab electronics needs to do whatever it does currently including running the fridge on 12v while the engine is running.

The split charge relay wherever it is in your hab electronics ( either as an actual relay or inside the control box) needs to work to run the fridge.

Unless you box of electronics has 2 independent split charge systems (unlikely but possible on a high end van - I don't know) then removing power between engine battery and hab electronics will mean no fridge power when driving.

I can't see how the solution in the article overcomes this.
 
berni109
Under normal conditions when the engine is not running the CBE unit is fed from the leisure batts, however when the engine is running power is sent from cab battery/alternator to the CBE post B1 to charge the leisure batts, run fridge etc from post B2.
With a B2B fitted the Leisure batts will be charged directly from the Cab Bat/Alternator to the leisure Batts,but not via the CBE unit which will be isolated with the new normally closed relay opening when the engine is running
The Hab electrics/Fridge will be powered when the van engine is running from the leisure batts and not the cab batt/alternator as the original feed will be disconnected replaced by the relay fed from the normally open contact from the leisure batts.
I hope that makes sense, its as the wiring diagram shows if you look at how the NO/NC relay contacts are wired.
LES

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