The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[L' Hobo]

A few hundred miles of driving jock and those discs will be shiny again its just surface rust with not being used . The calipers are perfect now and the pads ARE not crumbling . The only damage to the pads was caused by me prising the caliper back with a prise bar through the inspection plate.

They'll be fine

I agree with you on the discs, calipers etc because if they work properly, they will work BUT for such a small outlay, I would definitely change the pads.
They definitely look dodgy and you broke a piece off with the bar, what other internal structure damage you might have done?
Don't take the risk on the front brakes that do most of the braking.

PS. Not that I'm interested in buying your other van (I'm happy with the one I have) but is there a reason why I've not seen it on 'classified', some of us don't do eBay?

 

[Lenny HB]

I've had vans for 16 years OK always bought new but I've never had a hab check on any of them just the damp check for the warranty.
I would trust my own judgement rather than a so called technician.

 

[Lenny HB]

I’m sure Lenny HB has done an excellent job on the electrics.

They are a 100 times better tham when Tam bought the van, you should have seen the crap wiring we removed.

 

[Northernraider]

I took have bought vehicles unseen and never had an habcheck and never gone wrong but as said, everyone is not like us.

I know Charlie.. but I'd rather sell it to someone knowledgeable than a newbie relying on a "professional "

 

[Northernraider]

I agree with you on the discs, calipers etc because if they work properly, they will work BUT for such a small outlay, I would definitely change the pads.
They definitely look dodgy and you broke a piece off with the bar, what other internal structure damage you might have done?
Don't take the risk on the front brakes that do most of the braking.

PS. Not that I'm interested in buying your other van (I'm happy with the one I have) but is there a reason why I've not seen it on 'classified', some of us don't do eBay?

It is in the classifieds somewhere but from a month ago

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[Northernraider]

They are a 100 times better tham when Tam bought the van, you should have seen the crap wiring we removed.

Aye and believe it or not it had had hab checks done just a few years before. And was riddled with leaks , dodgy wiring etc etc.

That van now is a bargain for whoever buys it.

 

[JockandRita]

Nice job on the windows. I'm lucky mine are in perfect condition ( at the minute) did you do it yourself or have them done? What does a set of those cost ? For future reference

Thanks Tam.
This is the second MH which has had to have the frames out to replace the glass, and the second time on the Flair between owners. It took two of us a day and a half to completion, and that was just replacing the static units.
The cost? Thousands if using the likes of Broonfools, Troubleworld, or Floundhams.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Lenny HB]

With all the brake problems you have had before I think I would definitely be changing those pads. Old brake pads have a rep for braking up.

 

[Northernraider]

Thanks Tam.
This is the second MH which has had to have the frames out to replace the glass, and the second time on the Flair between owners. It took two of us a day and a half to completion, and that was just replacing the static units.
The cost? Thousands if using the likes of Broonfools, Troubleworld, or Floundhams.

Cheers,

Jock.

Have you any idea what causes it so I can attempt to prevent it. One of the windows in my euramobil had started to go but luckily both sides in this van are perfect at the minute. I'd rather avoid the problem than repair it if possible

 

[Northernraider]

With all the brake problems you have had before I think I would definitely be changing those pads. Old brake pads have a rep for braking up.

I have pads on order

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[L' Hobo]

Aye and believe it or not it had had hab checks done just a few years before. And was riddled with leaks , dodgy wiring etc etc.

That van now is a bargain for whoever buys it.

Just found it in 'classified' and it certainly looks a bargain!

 

[JockandRita]

Have you any idea what causes it so I can attempt to prevent it.

I wish I did Tam, as I'd be doing what I can to prevent them from blowing myself.

New front pads? An excellent change of heart.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Puddleduck]

If buying from a stranger and not knowing the history of a motorhome I would want the gas system and heating checked as a minimum. I am not confident enough in my own knowledge to check or replace gas.

 

[Beltie]

Ah here he comes again lol

Did you're wee light come on Charlie.


I'm just tired of folk that don't know how ebay works.

My classified listing has " make offer"

If you do that then that offer is to buy the van ,not view it etc.

My listing also states no offer will be accepted without a deposit to secure it , because when an offer is accepted through eBay the listing ends.

So someone made an offer on it , I asked for a deposit they then said they would only pay a deposit if they got it back if they didn't buy it. That's not how a deposit works. Then they asked if they could view it next Saturday....8 days away. They live in crewe ...so obviously not that interested.


The second person wanted a hab check done at their expense, which is fair enough but I'm not travelling up to wales to let someone inspect it and then coming back down.


The results of a hab check will put any newbie off anyway as I imagine they're going to state that the electrics etc have been modified , the interior has been modified etc etc etc .

Hab guys are like dealers they really know sod all apart from whats in a book



I'll wait for a genuinely interested person

Ach it will sell eventually Charlie. Or it'll sit there.

I know Charlie.. but I'd rather sell it to someone knowledgeable than a newbie relying on a "professional "

Why, it's their money.

 

[ALI G]

Can the add be bumped to the top?

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[Dutch 68]

With all the brake problems you have had before I think I would definitely be changing those pads. Old brake pads have a rep for braking up.

Yep they either break up because of being old , brittle and dry or will glaze over when running hot

 

[Barclaybasher]

No idea. My local guy is a member of the Accredited workshop scheme.

Is that like 'The Master Builder' or those on Checkatrade

 

[Dolmen]

Obviously a generalisation, however, I would suggest most people buying a van, regardless of price, want to just jump in it and set off, they do not want to be chasing endless electric problems and fixing leaks, nor replacing fridges. A Hab check at the very least lets them know the fridge, the heating, hot water and 12v/230v systems were working at the point of inspection and that the damp meter was suggesting its not leaking like a sieve. They see this as a basic assurance, the same people would not buy a car without an MOT. You have made it abundantly clear that you do not want an Hab check done on the van, and that because you know that basic assurance isn't really that useful you are not going to allow any potential buyer to have that level of comfort either, I think we all get that now and that you want it to go to some one who would understand and appreciate it. Once again, fine, its your van, your choice. you are happy to sit on it and wait for such a person to come along. You also have the experience of buying and selling numerous vehicles and are in a better position to know your buyer is out there and will come along and gladly buy it unseen. My long winded point is simply that the rest of us do not have this level of experience nor would we buy a van under these circumstances and hence your apparent intransient stand point seems alien to us, so you simply need to stick two fingers up and tell us all to feck off and stop trying to tell someone with your level of experience how to suck eggs.

 

[funflair]

I would give it a miss as it has automatic temperature compensation so at low temperatures the voltage will be far too high and at high temperatures it will be too low.
Also the float charge is too high.

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The temperature sensor is optional though and wasn't fitted on ours, without one it will just be a flatline 14.4v 13.8v I imagine, what float voltage does Tams battery require as our Lithium say 13.8v recommended.

 

[Northernraider]

Why, it's their money.

Because 99% chance they won't buy it. They will take a so called "expert " or "professional " opinion over the person who owns the van , did/had the work to it done.

I'm happy for any buyer with knowledge to come view the van and poke around to their hearts content . I can show them every single thing on the van warts and all.

If it was sat outside here beside me I wouldn't hesitate to let someone waste £150+ on a hab check

But driving all the way up to wales at a specified time to let them look isn't the same.

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[Lenny HB]

The temperature sensor is optional though and wasn't fitted on ours, without one it will just be a flatline 14.4v 13.8v I imagine, what float voltage does Tams battery require as our Lithium say 13.8v recommended.

Most Lithium's require a float of 13.5v at that voltage they won't charge. Your Super B's are not the average battery.

 

[Northernraider]

The temperature sensor is optional though and wasn't fitted on ours, without one it will just be a flatline 14.4v 13.8v I imagine, what float voltage does Tams battery require as our Lithium say 13.8v recommended.

Yeah the temp sender isn't plugged in as far as I can see

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Because 99% chance they won't buy it. They will take a so called "expert " or "professional " opinion over the person who owns the van , did/had the work to it done.

I'm happy for any buyer with knowledge to come view the van and poke around to their hearts content . I can show them every single thing on the van warts and all.

If it was sat outside here beside me I wouldn't hesitate to let someone waste £150+ on a hab check

But driving all the way up to wales at a specified time to let them look isn't the same.

Amazing how many people want to argue about your choices!!

 

[Lenny HB]

New front pads? An excellent change of heart.

He gave into peer pressure.

 

[Beltie]

Obviously a generalisation, however, I would suggest most people buying a van, regardless of price, want to just jump in it and set off, they do not want to be chasing endless electric problems and fixing leaks, nor replacing fridges. A Hab check at the very least lets them know the fridge, the heating, hot water and 12v/230v systems were working at the point of inspection and that the damp meter was suggesting its not leaking like a sieve. They see this as a basic assurance, the same people would not buy a car without an MOT. You have made it abundantly clear that you do not want an Hab check done on the van, and that because you know that basic assurance isn't really that useful you are not going to allow any potential buyer to have that level of comfort either, I think we all get that now and that you want it to go to some one who would understand and appreciate it. Once again, fine, its your van, your choice. you are happy to sit on it and wait for such a person to come along. You also have the experience of buying and selling numerous vehicles and are in a better position to know your buyer is out there and will come along and gladly buy it unseen. My long winded point is simply that the rest of us do not have this level of experience nor would we buy a van under these circumstances and hence your apparent intransient stand point seems alien to us, so you simply need to stick two fingers up and tell us all to feck off and stop trying to tell someone with your level of experience how to suck eggs.

Yes, but at the moment he seems to be sticking two fingers up to prospective buyers.

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[Northernraider]

He gave into peer pressure.

I didn't say I was fitting them lol. I always carry spares now

I've got 2 brand new spare sets for moby here too.

Typically they aren't the same

 

[Northernraider]

Yes, but at the moment he seems to be sticking two fingers up to prospective buyers.

I can spot ditherers and timewasters from miles away these days.

£15k plus is a lot of money

The first step surely is to actually speak to the seller on the phone.

Not shell out for a hab check

 

[CaptainPaul]

Aye somebody will buy it Tam, as my auld granda Paddy Costello (horse trader & part time traveller lol) used to say "there's always an arse for every seat"

 

[funflair]

Most Lithium's require a float of 13.5v at that voltage they won't charge. Your Super B's are not the average battery.

That’s why I wondered what Tams actually called for, with a decent capacity lithium the standard charger is not much more than a trickle anyway so a lot of the time it could be switched off, not that he will be on hook up much anyway.

 

[Northernraider]

That’s why I wondered what Tams actually called for, with a decent capacity lithium the standard charger is not much more than a trickle anyway so a lot of the time it could be switched off, not that he will be on hook up much anyway.

I just wanted to give it an initial charge for now.

I will probably remove the charger and fit a lithium suitable one later as a back up but once solar and b2b is fitted I'm hoping I never need to use it.

And of course once I check out the generator I'll have to work around that too.

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