The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[Minxy]

Have you asked on the forums if they know of places that can do it? Alternatively what about a classic commercial vehicle club?

 

[Manic]

I'm sure the van sits slightly down on the left hand side front .. which as I said before could indicate a weak front shock

I don’t think shocks effect how the van sits , that would be down to the springs.

 

[Boldly]

I don’t think shocks effect how the van sits , that would be down to the springs.

Tam already said doesn't have any springs. Torsion bar of which I have no knowledge or experience. Can they be adjusted? Do they wear out?

 

[bigtwin]

Torsion bar of which I have no knowledge or experience.

Can they be adjusted?

Yes, they can.

Do they wear out?

They use the tension created when a bar is twisted so, as the elasticity (a mechanical engineer might correct my terminology) wanes the vehicle would sit lower.

Ian

 

[Shed]

Tam already said doesn't have any springs. Torsion bar of which I have no knowledge or experience. Can they be adjusted? Do they wear out?

Torsion bars can usually be adjusted not a massive amount adjustment though.

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[TinaLes]

I am thinking track rod ends adjust the tracking, should be slightly toe in, but the Tie Rods adjust the camber which is completely different to the tracking of a wheel/tyre alignment.
I bet the camber angle on these vehicles is hardly ever checked if at all, since leaving the factory.
As for the camber kit mentioned by the Aussie on that thread, who ever thought it was just Aus that had a camber on their roads, ideally every road will have a camber even slight to let the water run off.

LES

 

[Lenny HB]

Knackered torsion bar?
Wouldn't surprise me as its been sitting around unmoved for years.

 

[L' Hobo]

I am thinking track rod ends adjust the tracking, should be slightly toe in, but the Tie Rods adjust the camber which is completely different to the tracking of a wheel/tyre alignment.
I bet the camber angle on these vehicles is hardly ever checked if at all, since leaving the factory.
As for the camber kit mentioned by the Aussie on that thread, who ever thought it was just Aus that had a camber on their roads, ideally every road will have a camber even slight to let the water run off.

LES

As Australia drive on the same side of the road as we, or they did when I lived there, PERHAPS British driven vehicles probably need the same camber kit?

 

[bigtwin]

Knackered torsion bar?
Wouldn't surprise me as its been sitting around unmoved for years.

Do they behave differently to springs in that respect or would you expect springs that have not been exercised to be knackered too?

Ian

 

[Northernraider]

I don't think it has a knackered torsion bar . However there is a chance the ball joint on the rhs has been changed before and the lhs hasn't. Which means it may not have been adjusted correctly.

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[Manic]

Tam already said doesn't have any springs. Torsion bar of which I have no knowledge or experience. Can they be adjusted? Do they wear out?

I was using springs as a generalisation, torsion bar suspension is a form of spring.
I was saying shocks wouldn’t effect ride height unless they were stuck solid

 

[Barclaybasher]

Don't know if anyone has suggested:

On level ground measure the height to each wheel arch to see if there is a difference - not just at front- but back as well.

The problem isn't always where you think it is

 

[Northernraider]

Don't know if anyone has suggested:

On level ground measure the height to each wheel arch to see if there is a difference - not just at front- but back as well.

The problem isn't always where you think it is

Aye its getting level ground thats been the problem vic .

 

[sussexlad]

I've just found these.

https://www.steertrak.co.uk/our-services/

 

[houdini]

Says they do Flairs.

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[Mousy]

When we needed level ground to reset our hydraulic levers we went to the local weigh bridge and did them on there. Just a thought.

 

[bigtwin]

When we needed level ground to reset our hydraulic levers we went to the local weigh bridge and did them on there. Just a thought.

Why did you need level ground to reset (recalibrate?) your levellers?

Ian

 

[Dochie]

Don't know if anyone has suggested:

On level ground measure the height to each wheel arch to see if there is a difference - not just at front- but back as well.

The problem isn't always where you think it is

If you measure from the centre of the hub to the wheel arch this will remove any effect the tyre may have

 

[PxJ]

Tam, you know the lads in Morocco will most likely say they can do it but, I would think if you know basically what’s required & are with them they’ll do a better job

 

[golly]

Tam, have you seen this ?

Getting tracking done on an old large motorhome

We have just had our tracking done on our old 4 ton Hymer. We had trouble finding anyone to do it for various reasons. The mobile laser people said they couldn't do it because of something to do with the bodywork. We had it done over a pit by these people 5 mins from junction 39 of M1 near...

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

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[Northernraider]

I've just found these.

https://www.steertrak.co.uk/our-services/

Yes that's the mobile guy I phoned on Wednesday and he said he'd call me back ...he never did , I left him a message again on Friday and another yesterday afternoon. And I've sent a further message to the head office again today asking if they've another agent as dave doesn't answer his phone or return calls.

Shame as he came recommended by a couple of places

 

[Northernraider]

Tam, have you seen this ?

Getting tracking done on an old large motorhome

We have just had our tracking done on our old 4 ton Hymer. We had trouble finding anyone to do it for various reasons. The mobile laser people said they couldn't do it because of something to do with the bodywork. We had it done over a pit by these people 5 mins from junction 39 of M1 near...

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

I can't access that thread for some reason.. what forum is it in?

 

[CazPaul]

I can't access that thread for some reason.. what forum is it in?

It’s in tech/mech general

 

[Northernraider]

It’s in tech/mech general

Hmm

 

[CazPaul]

Hmm

Why can’t you access that section Tam?

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[1967bowesj]

You cannot be ignoring the thread it’s only from today

 

[Northernraider]

Why can’t you access that section Tam?

I can access the tech mech forum . Just not that thread.

I have the op on ignore

 

[eurajohn]

From the web site they appear to be in Yorkshire, so not much help at the moment.

Jayray Vehicle Solutions ltd.

Jayray Vehicle Solutions ltd.

jayray.co.uk

 

[pelican]

I have just googled adjusting Torsion bar suspension and it appears to be a straight fwd job. Plenty of info.

 

[Minxy]

I can access the tech mech forum . Just not that thread.

I have the op on ignore

Well unignore him then!

He won't know what's hit him when your threads suddenly show up!

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