The reality of fulltiming at the moment.

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chrisgreen said:
No carol I got out the same side of my bed that I have done for 40 years, I just don't like people making videos looking for sympathy when they are breaking the rules, I have no problem with full-timers just the guy in the video.
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But Chris he was doing what he has been doing before everything went tits up, it's his bit of normal I just don't get knocking someone when they are down.
 
chrisgreen said:
freeloading tosser, just leeching off the council taxpayers of the area he stays in, bet he doesn't pick the dogs sh*t up and if he does where does he dispose of it? where does he dispose of his waste? where does he dispose of his rubbish?
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I’ve been watching his videos for a while and he’s a decent chap. He always clears up where others have left there rubbish and leaves wherever he’s stayed as he found it. So mate you are wrong.
 
Here in Bristol, the council set up a temporary site very quickly (it’s still going). In a lovely location with facilities provided, their aim was to provide somewhere safe and clean with access to water for all the van dwelling people on the streets of Bristol. Not central though and no shops nearby.
I know some people didn’t want to go there, maybe because too organised or too far out of central Bristol.
A good response from the council I thought.
 
Jo662 said:
I’ve been watching his videos for a while and he’s a decent chap. He always clears up where others have left there rubbish and leaves wherever he’s stayed as he found it. So mate you are wrong.
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you only see what he has posted where does he empty his waste?
 
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chrisgreen said:
you only see what he has posted were does he empty his waste?
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He empties in facilities where they are available, if not available he buries it deeper than the recommended depth. He follows the legal requirements and the recommendations.
 
Jo662 said:
I honestly don’t know,but he works and pays taxes so has a right to dump at council tips I suppose.
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I have a permit to tip but only in the council area I live and pay council tax in.
local councils control tips paid by the council taxpayer for that area.
 
Gromett said:
He empties in facilities where they are available, if not available he buries it deeper than the recommended depth. He follows the legal requirements and the recommendations.
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Does he.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Carol said:
But Chris he was doing what he has been doing before everything went tits up, it's his bit of normal I just don't get knocking someone when they are down.
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But Carol sh*t happens in life you just work through it, he had a few days inconvenience and now he's sorted no big deal.

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I think that the traditional fulltimers are in for more of this crap. The explosion of self built stealth van living will become ever more popular as a way of having your own roof over your head as opposed to living a free existence. The two are completely different and I don't imagine those that just want there own place will be any more caring of their surroundings than most of ordinary society is. I'm thinking of the recent examples of how responsible people are at say the beach or casual camping by a loch. The problem is, they will create a new normal for local people who will resent the spoiling of quite places and the traditional fulltimer will get lumped into the resulting new regulations they will demand. We are seeing all the wonderfull things that have evolved and made our fantastic tolerant society what it is, destroyed by the modern frenzy of change in everything. I am personaly pissed off to the eyeballs with most of modern society.
We just cannot carry on like this, all the good things we enjoy and love are being spoiled by monetising, selfishness, irrisposible and shortsighted behavour across the board. I think we are on a very slippery slope to a distopian collapse of society if we not carefull. Fulltiming in a motorhome will inevetably be ruined by a simple lack of space, consideration, and the effect it will start to have on our wild quite places. Too many vans dotted about in valuable scenery and vistas won't be tolerated. Just as one example.
Glad thats off me chest, sorry :Smile:
 
Vanlifers need a voice and that involves something that is probably anathema to most - organisation. They need to create an organisation with stated aims and strict rules for joining. A forum of their own or a website-based club would be a good start. With strict control over members adhering to good camping principles they could quickly start to separate themselves from 'travellers' and in the longer term improve their image. Unfortunately strict adherence to existing laws covering camping would have to be part of it.
 
chrisgreen said:
and who pays to empty the rubbish bin? it's his choice to live like he does if he is struggling why should i have compassion for him?
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It's a nice human trait some people have about looking out for people down on their luck. Some people can't afford the insane house or rent prices but don't want to be a burden on the state so live in vans. He does work so he pays tax and is entitled to use public bins like anyone who is a visitor in an area.
 
My post was deleted. I dont agree (with censorship) but I dont have control either?
 
Helen Ariel said:
It's a nice human trait some people have about looking out for people down on their luck. Some people can't afford the insane house or rent prices but don't want to be a burden on the state so live in vans. He does work so he pays tax and is entitled to use public bins like anyone who is a visitor in an area.
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do you do his accounts? if not how would you know he pays tax? he could be a millionaire and pay a shed load of tax, he also could be an agency worker earning under the tax threshold. just no way of knowing.

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chrisgreen said:
do you do his accounts? if not how would you know he pays tax? he could be a millionaire and pay a shed load of tax, he also could be an agency worker earning under the tax threshold. just no way of knowing.
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No more than you Apparently seem to know he dumps his rubbish. To comment as you did on this individual in ignorance of the truth is at best hypocrisy.
 
ceejayt said:
No more than you Apparently seem to know he dumps his rubbish. To comment as you did on this individual in ignorance of the truth is at best hypocrisy.
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I asked where he dumps his waste /rubbish/dog waste, never got an answer.
 
As I keep posting over and over again, I have lived in my van for over 30 years, often parking in (non residential) streets in towns and ALWAYS staying where I don't cause any bother to anyone.

This guy hasn't done that. He has parked where he does bother locals (even if some of those locals aren't very nice).

But what makes it worse in my eyes, and makes it impossible for him ever to be on my Christmas Card list, is that he posts videos of his lifestyle online.

He must think he is so special or something to keep going "Look at me... Look at me".

Do me a favour please and keep your head down and live your life with consideration for others... even if they are narrow minded, ill educated, willy heads.


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chrisgreen said:
reeloading tosser, just leeching off the council taxpayers of the area he stays in, bet he doesn't pick the dogs sh*t up and if he does where does he dispose of it? where does he dispose of his waste? where does he dispose of his rubbish?
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chrisgreen said:
I asked where he dumps his waste /rubbish/dog waste, never got an answer.
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How do you expect anyone on here to know where he disposes of his waste ?
If you watch his vlog you will see he lives in a responsible off grid way and whilst I don't know for certain, I'd put money on it he disposes of waste responsibly.
It was foolish to drive to Scotland to try and isolate but it was done with the right motives of trying to be away from other people.
Perhaps with a little more thought he wouldn't have gone, but we all make mistakes.
Give the guy a break, he's only trying to rub along like the rest of us as best he can.
There are far more deserving causes in society to turn your perticular brand of nasty vitriol on than him.
Consider yourself on my ignored list from this point on, lifes to short for your hatered
 
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LesW said:
Haters will always hate 😔
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Where in any of my posts did i say i hated the guy.
Again i repeat in my first post i asked where he disposes of his waste, simple question?
 
Figaro said:
How do you expect anyone on here to know where he disposes of his waste ?
If you watch his vlog you will see he lives in a responsible off grid way and whilst I don't know for certain, I'd put money on it he disposes of waste responsibly.
It was foolish to drive to Scotland to try and isolate but it was done with the right motives of trying to be away from other people.
Perhaps with a little more thought he wouldn't have gone, but we all make mistakes.
Give the guy a break, he's only trying to rub along like the rest of us as best he can.
There are far more deserving causes in society to turn your perticular brand of nasty vitriol on than him.
Consider yourself on my ignored list from this point on, lifes to short for your hatered
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I can't remember ever mentioning anything about him traveling to Scotland.
is it me showing hatred or is it you and other members towards me as i have been personally attacked by members on this thread.
 
chrisgreen said:
Where in any of my posts did i say i hated the guy.
Again i repeat in my first post i asked where he disposes of his waste, simple question?
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What else do you expect maybe you should read your post again''Freeloading Tosser'' ''Leeching off the council tax payers''

We lived in our van for 2 years and on different circumstances it could have been us you were calling, you never know where life can take you, then something bad happens and you find yourself in a situation.

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CazPaul said:
What else do you expect maybe you should read your post again''Freeloading Tosser'' ''Leeching off the council tax payers''

We lived in our van for 2 years and on different circumstances it could have been us you were calling, you never know where life can take you, then something bad happens and you find yourself in a situation.
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Let me assure you I have been in far worse situations than this guy has been and possibly will ever be, but i didnt blog about it because shit happens in life and you just work through it and move on.
 
tacr2man said:
The financial state of the individual is irrelevant as a citizen of this country he is as entitled as any one else to use all public facilities , as a minimum .
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So are travelers but look at the hate they get thrown at them when they pitch up even on their own land.
 
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chrisgreen said:
So are travelers but look at the hate they get thrown at them when they pitch up even on their own land.
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Do they abide by any laws of the land, do they clean up or even leave the area they invaded clean when they leave . Having dealt with them over a number of years , answer is in the negative . Ipso facto they don't generate much public affection .
 
The guy is now pitching up at friends smallholding be interesting to see how long he stays there
tacr2man said:
Do they abide by any laws of the land, do they clean up or even leave the area they invaded clean when they leave . Having dealt with them over a number of years , answer is in the negative . Ipso facto they don't generate much public affection .
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I happen to like travelers down to earth salt of the earth people, dont like the mess they leave behind but the council clear it up, and when you consider it 87 pounds a ton to tip you can understand them leaving it behind it would be cheaper to let them tip free as with the fly-tippers.

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