Smart phone intrusions

[Googlebot]

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[AJM2]

I do not disagree but I do wonder, if it like the language used, it's not really more ignorance just a big change in what is accepted as normal?

Think back to you and your parents?

Mine thought that being able to afford/want a car as a teenager was beyond the pale.

Owning your own home was something for senior white collar workers.

Don't even think about sex before marriage!

Standards have moved, maybe we need to accept the change?

I take your point but those particular examples didn’t adversely impact the people sitting next to them. People now more regularly have sex before marriage but thankfully we haven’t yet got to the stage where they do it loudly next to you in a coffee shop. Give it a few more years though

 

[VXman]

Each to their own, I would like to see a campsite tell me I couldn’t take a call, work related or not.

Seems an odd thing to be annoyed about.

Perhaps wild camping on your own in remote places away from others would be better?

It's not just about mobile phones is it. So many people nowadays just seem to be complexly unaware of the noise and disruption they cause to others - or aware but just don't care.

As for 'each to their own' - me being quiet doesn't disturb/affect/impact on anyone. someone being loud unfortunately does. It is possible to live life without annoying others with a little thought and consideration.

 

[The Old Man]

age where they do it loudly next to you in a coffee shop

Don't they?

 

[meanders]

Guilty as charged M'Lud! For coming up 40 years. Satchel phone and a whip aerial while camping with the kids, Sometimes on the phone for 15minutes before teh battery went flat than had to walk out to a phone box. It was either that or never going away.

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[meanders]

People now more regularly have sex before marriage but thankfully we haven’t yet got to the stage where they do it loudly next to you in a coffee shop.

A coffee shop back then only sold coffee beans that they would grind if requested.

 

[bladerunner]

I've noticed a recent frequency of people being completely unaware of others around them.
You feel like shouting "Am I invisible?" as they barge past or step backwards onto you.
Or people who chat loudly at a concert - the last one was David Gray - hardly a headbanger. I've given up on concerts at the Utilita stadium as people arrive drunk and coked up and the atmosphere is too edgy.

One of the joys of retiring is being able to avoid busy places.

Aaaah - nostalgia, not what it used to be.

 

[Googlebot]

It's not just about mobile phones is it. So many people nowadays just seem to be complexly unaware of the noise and disruption they cause to others - or aware but just don't care.

As for 'each to their own' - me being quiet doesn't disturb/affect/impact on anyone. someone being loud unfortunately does. It is possible to live life without annoying others with a little thought and consideration.

I never said it was okay to be inconsiderate.

You are stopping on a site next to others, their idea of fun may be different to yours, that’s not inconsiderate.

Inconsiderate is expecting others to modify their behaviour to their detriment to suit you.

It’s a tin tent, you are on a campsite right next to others. If you don’t like phones, kids, dogs, people, then there are loads of places to be in isolation.

 

[Richard n Ann]

I read somewhere a few years ago, probably on Facebook there was someone complaining about loud music next to them and the girl next door said "you're not spoiling my holiday! I'll do as I want!"

Generally :
These selfish attitudes are what is taking our freedoms away, rules and laws are being created by the hundreds to control our every action, because we are selfish, over populated, and can't be trusted to act reasonably.

Height barriers
Minimum alcohol price
Sugar tax
20mph speed limits
OTT Health and safety
CCTV

Just a few that spring to mind

 

[VXman]

I never said it was okay to be inconsiderate.

You are stopping on a site next to others, their idea of fun may be different to yours, that’s not inconsiderate.

Inconsiderate is expecting others to modify their behaviour to their detriment to suit you.

It’s a tin tent, you are on a campsite right next to others. If you don’t like phones, kids, dogs, people, then there are loads of places to be in isolation.

I can watch tv. listen to music, have conversations with the wife or on the phone, without disturbing the motorhome on the next pitch. I have actually took the step of wandering 15 metres from my van to check that my music isn't too loud. Other people however see incapable of doing this.

Inconsiderate is expecting others to modify their behaviour to their detriment to suit you.

Really? So anything goes? I'm the problem? Well, where does that end?

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[Barclaybasher]

The great thing about a busy Spanish bar or restaurant is that it's impossible to use a phone - the noise from normal Spanish folk 'talking' is enough

 

[Googlebot]

Really? So anything goes? I'm the problem? Well, where does that end?

I never said that either.

Life is too short to get annoyed about things like people taking a phone call on a campsite, which is what the OP was complaining about.

We all want different things, alas we all have to share the limited space so compromise must be made.

 

[pappajohn]

Compulsory vocal cord removal at birth .....that should make the environment quiet at a stroke

 

[Richard n Ann]

Compulsory vocal cord removal at birth .....that should make the environment quiet at a stroke

No we'd all have Steven Hawking voices

 

[Peavy]

The great thing about a busy Spanish bar or restaurant is that it's impossible to use a phone - the noise from normal Spanish folk 'talking' is enough

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT!?

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[Richard n Ann]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT!?

He means it's a good atmosphere same as wetherspoons

 

[iandsm]

But fa

On this last trip it has got to me the number of people who are on their smart phones when we are trying to relax and get away from it as much as we can.

Whilst accepting the need to be in contact in case of emergencies, conversations - most of which are far too loud and are made outside of their units - are either of an inane or work related sort.

Work-from-home has in my opinion exacerbated the practice immensely and campsites will need to keep a handle on this as intrusions increase and traditional camping stays disappear.

Would you have campsite owners or wardens visit the offenders and tell then they cannot use their phones outside their camper/caravan?

 

[Jim]

I've no idea about the dangers, but I can't imagine that having a Bluetooth earpiece buried in your head all day and half the night does not carry some health risks.

 

[Richard n Ann]

I've no idea about the dangers, but I can't imagine that having a Bluetooth earpiece buried in your head all day and half the night does not carry some health risks.

Wax build up

 

[steve69]

Odd?
Hope you never want to have a relaxing break in a campsite.

To be fair, is it any worse than having screaming kids in your vicinity..... a common occurrence at campsites.
But I do sympathise to some degree and believe that smartphones have turned many people into mindless Zombies.

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[Coolcats]

But fair.

One may say not in the spirit of MHF rules and not sure the comment was fair….be kind be considerate or say nowt

 

[brynric]

When I’m in the van I quite like to relax. I’ll glance at the newspapers and perhaps struggle with the crossword. I always have a few novels I like to read. I keep up to date with the football results and watch edited highlights now and then. Not to mention several trips a day to the Fun forum.

Oh, and I do all this on the iPhone or iPad.

 

[swemmy666]

Anyone think there is a similarity to the intolerance here for kids, noise and the such with some locals in this thread:

More greeting faced locals complaining about motorhomes

Getting as bad as Cornwall these days. I've not ventured north since 2017 because if wingers like these. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/travel/11102401/selfish-nc500-campervan-drivers-ruining-home/

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[Barriesimpson]

I would join in the conversation - they'll soon move

I do actually do that occasionally, really pisses people off but that's the whole point

 

[Stonemags76]

One thing I really don’t like is deaf old people with soundbars for their Tv or music! Makes the whole van a boom box! Really though, if you are near any people at all, there is a potential for someone to intrude on your peace & quiet! Tolerance, patience, & the understanding that no one is perfect! (Oh, except me of course….)!

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[Janine]

I do actually do that occasionally, really pisses people off but that's the whole point

It’s funnier if they are in the next toilet cubicle

 

[Sdrawde]

It seems a much more noisy world now I am older (63 ish), and I doubt that's to do with my hearing improving over the years.

If we stay patient things will change, because the birthrate in the vast majority of countries is well below the required 2.0 to keep us going (and an astonishing 0.8 in Hong Kong).

I wonder how long it will be before we can return to a more civilised ancient conversation......

'Ug'

'Ug'?

'Ug ug uggedy'

'Ahhhh, uggedy ug'.

In fact, I've just read this out loud to my wife to check it doesn't sound too stupid, and she assures me I am already highly skilled in communicating in the ancient ways.

 

[The Wino]

It seems a much more noisy world now I am older (63 ish), and I doubt that's to do with my hearing improving over the years.

If we stay patient things will change, because the birthrate in the vast majority of countries is well below the required 2.0 to keep us going (and an astonishing 0.8 in Hong Kong).

I wonder how long it will be before we can return to a more civilised ancient conversation......

'Ug'

'Ug'?

'Ug ug uggedy'

'Ahhhh, uggedy ug'.

In fact, I've just read this out loud to my wife to check it doesn't sound too stupid, and she assures me I am already highly skilled in communicating in the ancient ways.

I think my wife would be surprised to hear even that! It's when she says we need to talk but really means you need to listen!
I think a big change in the world is instant access to everyone by phone text or internet at very little cost it's hard for people who used to only phone after 6 ( and most people being lucky to have a phone ) to get used to

 

[Wee Bold Davy]

It’s funnier if they are in the next toilet cubicle

I was just going to post about that. Last year I was in Sainsbury's in Shrewsbury and had to use the toilet. I was just going into the entrance corridor at the same time as another guy. He stood aside and gestured me to go first. On the way in he was rather chatty. On entering the gents I was pleased to see that both cubicles were vacant. I went into one and the guy went into the other.
Settling in to do my business, the guy next door said, 'What are you doing later?' Pause.......
'How about going for a pizza then back to my place, watch a movie and I've got a nice bottle of Shiraz'

I don't think I've ever moved so fast. It never dawned on me at the time that he may have been talking on his phone Then maybe not! I'm told strange things can happen in gents toilets
I've thought about it often and could imagine it being developed into a good comedy sketch for TV

 

[Janine]

I was just going to post about that. Last year I was in Sainsbury's in Shrewsbury and had to use the toilet. I was just going into the entrance corridor at the same time as another guy. He stood aside and gestured me to go first. On the way in he was rather chatty. On entering the gents I was pleased to see that both cubicles were vacant. I went into one and the guy went into the other.
Settling in to do my business, the guy next door said, 'What are you doing later?' Pause.......
'How about going for a pizza then back to my place, watch a movie and I've got a nice bottle of Shiraz'

I don't think I've ever moved so fast. It never dawned on me at the time that he may have been talking on his phone Then maybe not! I'm told strange things can happen in gents toilets
I've thought about it often and could imagine it being developed into a good comedy sketch for TV

Shrewsbury is a very strange place

I think there has already been a comedy sketch with that scenario

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