Right who is going to France next week?

matt34 said:
This is what ive been saying we cant live like this forever,Life has to go on ,As for France enjoy its great place to be! Long long beaches not as many on them and most are sensible 1st capmsite we went on brilliant very aware 2nd one not so but we are careful and enjoyed it, we found the younger generation seem to not care and the other nation's there seem worse but can be avoided,just have fun!!
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Life is going on, it just doesn’t include travelling abroad for us and many others. I've been called scared, timid and anxious on this forum over this issue. I've even been offered a book on dealing with my anxiety. Others have been called petrified.

To put the record straight, living your life doesn't have to include going to France! Furthermore, we're not suffering from anxiety etc., we're just following what seems to be the logical course of action under these unprecedented circumstances.

I am also considering other factors, brought into play by this pandemic, which include getting medical insurance, having to wear masks when it's hot, getting locked down somewhere abroad, breaking down and being unable to stay in the motorhome etc. I travel with a number of prescription drugs and I know from experience that under normal circumstances you can usually get these abroad but who knows at present?

So yes, our lives are going on thank you very much. We're getting out and about in the UK and enjoying ourselves.
 
138go said:
Life is going on, it just doesn’t include travelling abroad for us and many others. I've been called scared, timid and anxious on this forum over this issue. I've even been offered a book on dealing with my anxiety. Others have been called petrified.

To put the record straight, living your life doesn't have to include going to France! Furthermore, we're not suffering from anxiety etc., we're just following what seems to be the logical course of action under these unprecedented circumstances.

I am also considering other factors, brought into play by this pandemic, which include getting medical insurance, having to wear masks when it's hot, getting locked down somewhere abroad, breaking down and being unable to stay in the motorhome etc. I travel with a number of prescription drugs and I know from experience that under normal circumstances you can usually get these abroad but who knows at present?

So yes, our lives are going on thank you very much. We're getting out and about in the UK and enjoying ourselves.
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Great sounds as if you are getting on with life thats great ,We all are different with different needs, i needed to get away with my family all went well and no problems.
 
Kirsten said:
We are still slithering about going to France on return from Slapton Sands - thought about Germany but have had an email in German from the whatever it is crit air thing saying something wrong with application .. ( thought I had done so well attaching the pdf v5 thing ..obs not won’t have time to re send now I fear and too complicated to avoid places where you need one .... 😢)
Interesting to see the comments here, both viewpoints have some validity but we think risk in France lower than here and we are in desperate need of a quiet break ( Slapton lovely but loads of noise on site -busy in locality -we prefer isolation of aires and less populated places)
What is puzzling me is are people expected to actually Q 14 in France on arrival ? As some posts here imply this is not being enforced?
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Id certainly recommend Germany. It’s not a place I like to be honest, but this time we are really enjoying it, and seeing some great places. They are dealing with COVID better than anywhere we’ve been, and very persistent about it. But are still open for business. It’s also nice that some places are quieter than usual.
 
We arrived At Port Grimaud yesterday Sunday, although the restrictions are quite relaxed, to relaxed to be honest, we feel quite safe, as we are being careful and are quite isolated. Must say I have never seen the French motorways as busy ever, though it is their holiday period



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pandas said:
With respect I believe it’s not about being scared, being at risk, being cowardly in anyway and I object that you think it is.
It is being respectful of this very serious pandemic sweeping almost every country in the World. We cannot bury our heads in the sand thinking it doesn’t exist. Too many lives lost, too many have lost their livelihoods education and we should focus on the best way to stop this virus. Going on jolly is in my view not the answer, it is of course your choice but please do not be critical of those that have another view. Enjoy your holiday.
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You don’t understand my point.....the ones who don’t want to catch it....the risk averse...can stay indoors and they will be fine....they won’t catch it....the ones who like to live life...they can go out and if they catch it then that’s their choice. And it’s no good saying...before you do...that the ones who go out might give it to someone else because they will only possibly give it to the other ones who have gone out and who are willing to take the very small risk....they won’t give it to the risk averse because they will be indoors. When I say go out I don’t mean just out I mean out out....travelling...whatever...this is the only thing I disagree with Micky on.
 

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Hymerbell said:
You don’t understand my point.....the ones who don’t want to catch it....the risk averse...can stay indoors and they will be fine....they won’t catch it....the ones who like to live life...they can go out and if they catch it then that’s their choice. And it’s no good saying...before you do...that the ones who go out might give it to someone else because they will only possibly give it to the other ones who have gone out and who are willing to take the very small risk....they won’t give it to the risk averse because they will be indoors. When I say go out I don’t mean just out I mean out out....travelling...whatever...this is the only thing I disagree with Micky on.
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Sorry it’s you that do not understand. Surely nobody wants to catch it. Only a very few are at home shielding due to other medical related issues. But you have made a big assumption that everybody else is cowering behind the curtains unless they are travelling across Europe prending everything is normal. Not so; we have a good quality of life and are engaging with family and friends and doing most stuff whilst being aware. Again my real point is please do not make an assumption that because we are not following your own pathway that we are all cowards. Try and be respectful of others views that maybe different to your own.
 
Hymerbell said:
You don’t understand my point.....the ones who don’t want to catch it....the risk averse...can stay indoors and they will be fine....they won’t catch it....the ones who like to live life...they can go out and if they catch it then that’s their choice. And it’s no good saying...before you do...that the ones who go out might give it to someone else because they will only possibly give it to the other ones who have gone out and who are willing to take the very small risk....they won’t give it to the risk averse because they will be indoors. When I say go out I don’t mean just out I mean out out....travelling...whatever...this is the only thing I disagree with Micky on.
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I'm sick of the assumption that because we're not travelling abroad, in the current circumstances, we don't want to "live life". Give it a rest.

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pandas said:
Sorry it’s you that do not understand. Surely nobody wants to catch it. Only a very few are at home shielding due to other medical related issues. But you have made a big assumption that everybody else is cowering behind the curtains unless they are travelling across Europe prending everything is normal. Not so; we have a good quality of life and are engaging with family and friends and doing most stuff whilst being aware. Again my real point is please do not make an assumption that because we are not following your own pathway that we are all cowards. Try and be respectful of others views that maybe different to your own.
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I am very respectful of your choice...it’s all about risk and reward...you have obviously decided that engaging with family and friends is worth the risk...so are not cowering behind curtains...others have decided to travel around Europe...and have dicided the risk is worth the reward...but are castigated for doing so and told they are being irresponsible...read back through the thread.
 
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just back from France (about 30mins ago) from the Haute Savoie area, was there the last 4 days stretching my legs up some hills. Overall very quite and far less foreign tourists of all nationalities. Anyone i spoke to was happy to see tourists as they all said they need the business. The fella at the pizza van last night said he was about 50% down in takings vs Aug last year, he was happy for our order ;)

We're still targeting La Planche on 19th Sept.

Yesterday i did my own stage 15 finish up the Col du Grand Colombier (took me 1hr 25mins to get up there vs Ritchie Porte's 46min KOM:LOL::LOL::LOL:) Lots of friendly people up there and nobody really cared where you came from, only that you were there;)
 
Janecambridge said:
I agree. It’s so depressing to read some of these posts. Death rate is not the only factor. It is the long term (many unknown) effects it has on the body. The long term cost to the health service.
If you are going to France, you are well aware of the restrictions as so many of you have said you will be putting them into your daily routine! I cannot understand why you would follow some very strict advice from our government, yet ignore the essential travel advice.
Well bon voyage. Hope you have good insurance to get you treated and get your possessions and loved ones home. Hope you have extremely good health to see you through this safely.
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Again....risk reward....I believe the risk of not having health insurance is worth the reward of not paying insurance premiums...and again if you believe there are long term effects (many unknown knowns) stay indoors and you won’t catch it and have unknown effects.
 
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138go said:
Life is going on, it just doesn’t include travelling abroad for us and many others. I've been called scared, timid and anxious on this forum over this issue. I've even been offered a book on dealing with my anxiety. Others have been called petrified.

To put the record straight, living your life doesn't have to include going to France! Furthermore, we're not suffering from anxiety etc., we're just following what seems to be the logical course of action under these unprecedented circumstances.

I am also considering other factors, brought into play by this pandemic, which include getting medical insurance, having to wear masks when it's hot, getting locked down somewhere abroad, breaking down and being unable to stay in the motorhome etc. I travel with a number of prescription drugs and I know from experience that under normal circumstances you can usually get these abroad but who knows at present?

So yes, our lives are going on thank you very much. We're getting out and about in the UK and enjoying ourselves.
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I think it was WAS Hal ....what was the robot in Lost in Space...
 
Hymerbell said:
I think it was WAS Hal ....what was the robot in Lost in Space...
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HAL is in 2001 a space oddity, Marvin the paranoid android in Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, Robbie the robot in Lost in space and Matt Damon the half robot in Elysium.

I may not know much about Covid, but I know my robots :giggle:🤖

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pandas said:
Sorry it’s you that do not understand. Surely nobody wants to catch it. Only a very few are at home shielding due to other medical related issues. But you have made a big assumption that everybody else is cowering behind the curtains unless they are travelling across Europe prending everything is normal. Not so; we have a good quality of life and are engaging with family and friends and doing most stuff whilst being aware. Again my real point is please do not make an assumption that because we are not following your own pathway that we are all cowards. Try and be respectful of others views that maybe different to your own.
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So we all agree then! why are these discussions coming up each time someone posts about going to EU? respect each others ways of staying safe. Yours is to stay in uk and socialise with friends and family (which has it's own inherent risks of spreading cv but which i recon all the posters on here talking about motorhoming in Europe are fine with you doing and wouldn't put you down for) ours is to travel to Europe mostly by tunnel not leaving vehicle and then isolating with our partners whilst touring the beautiful countryside aires with perhaps the odd restaurant meal outside. I know that for me my risk of catching or spreading cv is less here than if i was at home as i live in a city and have many friends and family nearby who would be expecting me to visit them and the temptation to lapse with sd would be much higher. I would definitely be spending time in a room with my mum who is over 60 and so there would be risk to her but also she is living her life going to the gym and cinema so who knows she could be more likely to give it to me. Out here the only risk we have is around sourcing food and we would be doing that at home anyway.

So maybe it's time to draw a line under these endless bickerings and admit there is no one single right way to do this?
 
RetiredPope said:
HAL is in 2001 a space oddity, Marvin the paranoid android in Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, Robbie the robot in Lost in space and Matt Damon the half robot in Elysium.

I may not know much about Covid, but I know my robots :giggle:🤖
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I think it actually is Deep Thought
 
fnfrancer said:
Plan is to go to France in late September, then down to Spain (Murcia) for 3 months. But will reconsider if incidence in Spain doesn't improve.
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That is exactly what we are planning on doing, with a stop off in Portugal thrown in...was thinking of Morocco as well, but will have to see how things are going there.
 
sallylillian said:
I think it actually is Deep Thought
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Deep thought the computer which came up with the answer to life the universe and everything?

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fnfrancer said:
But will reconsider if incidence in Spain doesn't improve.
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I wouldn't worry about it, the spanish government aren't too concerned .Here is basically there take on the increase in new cases.

""The reason that the national health are not overly concerned is because they have pointed out that they have tested 7 and a half million people, and over 50% of the positive tests are people which have no symptoms, and most of the rest have very few symptoms.
Therefore they point out that most of the positive results would never have been detected at the peak of the epidemic, when only very serious cases were being tested.
And that the health system is coping well with the new infections.

There are 3596 cases in total in hospital, 383 in ICU.""

So the thinking is that there were far ,far ,far more positive people at the outset & height of the outbreak that were spreading it completely asymptomatic.
 
pandas said:
I am not sure you quite understand what people are saying. Some are so polarised in their view (maybe you are in this category) - with percieved options of either hide inside or act as if there is no pandemic that they loose their compass. To be clear most would not like to be in lock-down again and the reason for the interventions/restrictions is try and prevent this from happening whilst trying to get on with our lives as best we can. Just to remind you pubs and restaurants are open, there is even a discount scheme to encourage you to go. People are going about their work with the protocols in place unless they can work from home, children will be going back to school next term. But in order to allow this to happen we cannot act as if there is no pandemic, don't to go mass events, church services, raves, wear masks, keep to social distancing etc and if we do we can manage to get to a better place than we were even before. If we don't the we will be in real lock-down again. So put your own negative views of how you believe other people are reacting and go and thrash that credit card of yours which will in some small way help the economy - but do it within the sprit of whats being asked of us. For me my credit card spend is about 15% down on what it would be normally.
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What’s that...a pound 😊
 
Hi Gus-Lopez and thanks for the re-assurance; wife and I will join you in Spain soon.
Your breakdown of those with infections in Spain looks so much better than the data I can find for those infected in the UK. Perhaps I'm not looking hard enough or perhaps our leaders are hiding the information.
In another world, what has happened to Real, Barca and Atletico this year?
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
Was that Robbie the Robot
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Oh yes....he was a bit more upbeat....it was the “Oh, I’m so depressed“ one I was trying to think of....the consensus seems to think it was Marvin...
 

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