Right who is going to France next week?

Janecambridge said:
Travelling to France and Belgium is for essential travel only,I do find it incredible that so many people are leaving now to go.The quarantine when they get back is in case they have Covid-19.Why risk their own health and the health of any nhs workers should they get sick?
I am happy to stick my neck out and say its unbelievably ignorant.
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I see your point, however I’ve also seen the alternatives of holidays in the UK. Beaches packed, people fighting. We walked through Hereford yesterday where people are supposed to follow arrows of where to walk Etc. No one paid any attention to this. We’ve stayed in since March, bar an excursion to Devon in July. When we were on the beach, which was relatively empty we had a family set up for the day right next to us. We got up and left. We’ve looked forward to our break since when we booked it in Feb. We will be in our car, then in to cabins on the ferry, then to my Dads house. We won’t be doing city tours or crowded beaches. we will wear masks, and follow all guidelines as we have done since this thing started. Sensible is as sensible does. Mental well-being counts for a lot these days and I’m damned if I’m locking my family up until this thing ever blows over.
 
RPG340 said:
I see your point, however I’ve also seen the alternatives of holidays in the UK. Beaches packed, people fighting. We walked through Hereford yesterday where people are supposed to follow arrows of where to walk Etc. No one paid any attention to this. We’ve stayed in since March, bar an excursion to Devon in July. When we were on the beach, which was relatively empty we had a family set up for the day right next to us. We got up and left. We’ve looked forward to our break since when we booked it in Feb. We will be in our car, then in to cabins on the ferry, then to my Dads house. We won’t be doing city tours or crowded beaches. we will wear masks, and follow all guidelines as we have done since this thing started. Sensible is as sensible does. Mental well-being counts for a lot these days and I’m damned if I’m locking my family up until this thing ever blows over.
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I remember our family, when I was a toddler, used to have one days trip to the seaside as our summer holiday - Christmas was just Christmas Day and Boxing Day. Didn’t know where the next meal was coming from but that’s how it was and we got on with it, it was also quite normal except for the relative wealthy. So I am not really sure how essential it is to be on holiday on the basis of ones mental well-being. Be an interesting conversation to have with Sir Tom.
 
RPG340 said:
I see your point, however I’ve also seen the alternatives of holidays in the UK. Beaches packed, people fighting. We walked through Hereford yesterday where people are supposed to follow arrows of where to walk Etc. No one paid any attention to this. We’ve stayed in since March, bar an excursion to Devon in July. When we were on the beach, which was relatively empty we had a family set up for the day right next to us. We got up and left. We’ve looked forward to our break since when we booked it in Feb. We will be in our car, then in to cabins on the ferry, then to my Dads house. We won’t be doing city tours or crowded beaches. we will wear masks, and follow all guidelines as we have done since this thing started. Sensible is as sensible does. Mental well-being counts for a lot these days and I’m damned if I’m locking my family up until this thing ever blows over.
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We've just had a week away on a quiet farm CL on the east coast of the UK. We didn't see anyone fighting! My son and his family have just had a holiday on the Isle of Wight. The campsite was five minutes from a beautiful quiet beach.

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We’re not going to France............but then we never planned to.

But we aren’t going to Portugal next month as we had hoped. Whatever the rules are I just can’t be doing with the risk,uncertainty and high alert required in air travel at the moment.

So we’ve booked in at three CL’s in hidden away places in this country and that will be fine for us.
 
suavecarve said:
And back to the thread title.

We are booked 28th.

I doubt very much we will be staying in France even though we could do a fortnight there. Germany Austria Slovenia Italy area is favourite but moving within immediate striking distance of Calais (8 hours) with 14 days left.

I would hope I would be back 3 days before Germany goes on any list, going by what happened in France and the amount of hints given by HMG
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Slovenia ! 8 Hours ! have you got a Ferrari V12 engine in your MH !
 
Weve been back from France for 2 weeks where we spent a month. Distancing no problem. I wouldnt risk going away in the UK though. Too many people, theres not many towns/ villages in the UK where you can wander around without seeing anyone. Common in rural France though.
I now only buy fuel at pay at pump, especially in the UK.
 
Hymerbell said:
Slovenia ! 8 Hours ! have you got a Ferrari V12 engine in your MH !
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First 14 days in Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Italy then move to within 8 hours of Calais for the last 14 days of a 28 day holiday which will be Black Forest, Rhine, moselle, neckar, sort of area

Or i could have just replied with "8 hours, 814 miles, whats your issue ?" (y)(y)
 
138go said:
We've just had a week away on a quiet farm CL on the east coast of the UK. We didn't see anyone fighting! My son and his family have just had a holiday on the Isle of Wight. The campsite was five minutes from a beautiful quiet beach.

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Sounds lovely 😊. Funny enough for our plan B I looked at the Isle of Wight. I’ve never been so would have no idea what it’s like, ferry crossings etc. Can you recommend a site that would take a twin axle?
 
Are we all forgetting 'Covid 19' is a 'pandemic'. it's in the UK just as it exists in the rest of the world; I live in France and 'Covid' is just as much a threat here as anywhere else. We live in an area with the least amount of cases and deaths in France. The government might have relaxed restrictions, but all sensible people are generally, keeping to the previous 'lock - down' rules sans paperwork. Holiday makers, mainly French and Belgians. are the exception.

July 14eme a 'Big Day' here in France, we were asked by our Maire not to attend family gatherings, which I would say was observed; no invitatations received - only apologies!

You may leave the UK, but you won't leave 'Covid' behind, it is everywhere and just your luck to get it. I lost a cousin in Gloucestershire to the disease. We had planned a trip to the UK in September now cancelled, so it is not only a 'one way thing' some of us are also avoiding the UK because of the potential risk.

Robert
 
Charente16 said:
Are we all forgetting 'Covid 19' is a 'pandemic'. it's in the UK just as it exists in the rest of the world; I live in France and 'Covid' is just as much a threat here as anywhere else. We live in an area with the least amount of cases and deaths in France. The government might have relaxed restrictions, but all sensible people are generally, keeping to the previous 'lock - down' rules sans paperwork. Holiday makers, mainly French and Belgians. are the exception.
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Are you suggesting that your Government is not sensible.
If everybody kept to the previous lockdown rules, how do you ever escape from lockdown if the virus doesnt disappear?

By the very nature of your view we would still be in caves behaving sensibly.

You are indeed being careful, and that is your right and I dont seek to change your view.

Why you wish to try to impose your life choices upon others when the people who are going away on holiday, as its perfectly legal, dont wish to impose their life choices upon you is not right.

I am finding it increasingly amazing that more or less everyone who has gone over in a motorhome from the UK is saying it is lovely over here, social distancing, feel safe, etc. Apart from 2 regions. The Correze and Charente. and It always appears to be the British.
 
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suavecarve said:
First 14 days in Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Italy then move to within 8 hours of Calais for the last 14 days of a 28 day holiday which will be Black Forest, Rhine, moselle, neckar, sort of area

Or i could have just replied with "8 hours, 814 miles, whats your issue ?" (y)(y)
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Oh...I thought you were trying to keep within 8 hours of Calais in case you contracted the dreaded Covid and could dash for home....and be looked after by Hattie Jacques and Barbara Windsor....
 
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RPG340 said:
Sounds lovely 😊. Funny enough for our plan B I looked at the Isle of Wight. I’ve never been so would have no idea what it’s like, ferry crossings etc. Can you recommend a site that would take a twin axle?
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Casper46 said:
If we quarantine in our motorhome then we would be taking our quarantine accommodation with us. We have sold our French house and will need at least three journeys to get stuff back to UK. Hopefully we will have the time to space the journeys with 14 days between.
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You do not need to, It is 14 days "Only if you are staying that long" You can enter the Uk, unload & return the next day.
You only have to 'quarantine/isolate for the period you would be in the Uk
Here;
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk

Charente16 said:
some of us are also avoiding the UK because of the potential risk.
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(y)
 
Charente16 said:
Are we all forgetting 'Covid 19' is a 'pandemic'. it's in the UK just as it exists in the rest of the world; I live in France and 'Covid' is just as much a threat here as anywhere else. We live in an area with the least amount of cases and deaths in France. The government might have relaxed restrictions, but all sensible people are generally, keeping to the previous 'lock - down' rules sans paperwork. Holiday makers, mainly French and Belgians. are the exception.

July 14eme a 'Big Day' here in France, we were asked by our Maire not to attend family gatherings, which I would say was observed; no invitatations received - only apologies!

You may leave the UK, but you won't leave 'Covid' behind, it is everywhere and just your luck to get it. I lost a cousin in Gloucestershire to the disease. We had planned a trip to the UK in September now cancelled, so it is not only a 'one way thing' some of us are also avoiding the UK because of the potential risk.

Robert
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What was the name of that robot in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy....
 
Peter and Julie said:
Why would they do that? Our re infection rate is much lower than theirs.
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As of yesterday the infection rate in France as a whole had been over 20/100k for a week ... the UK overall rate was 19.8.

But people from the UK hotspots can go where they like when they like within the UK.

None of it makes sense - our government, and all the others, are faffing about like headless chickens. We must all do what is sensible for ourselves and the wider society within the limits of what is allowed at the time.

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In the pub last night. About 20 people in, no masks required. Came out went next door into Coop, 20 people in all wearing masks. Tell me where the logic is in that.
 
bobsnicholson@ said:
In the pub last night. About 20 people in, no masks required. Came out went next door into Coop, 20 people in all wearing masks. Tell me where the logic is in that.
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Messy trying to down a pint of Guinness through a mask....
 
bobsnicholson@ said:
In the pub last night. About 20 people in, no masks required. Came out went next door into Coop, 20 people in all wearing masks. Tell me where the logic is in that.
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I case you had not understood: Logic is those in the pub should be sitting down with 2 m or 1.5m intervention nobody at the bar. Masks by those shopping. Quite simple but some haven’t managed to clock it yet!

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suavecarve said:
Are you suggesting that your Government is not sensible.
If everybody kept to the previous lockdown rules, how do you ever escape from lockdown if the virus doesnt disappear?

By the very nature of your view we would still be in caves behaving sensibly.

You are indeed being careful, and that is your right and I dont seek to change your view.

Why you wish to try to impose your life choices upon others when the people who are going away on holiday, as its perfectly legal, dont wish to impose their life choices upon you is not right.

I am finding it increasingly amazing that more or less everyone who has gone over in a motorhome from the UK is saying it is lovely over here, social distancing, feel safe, etc. Apart from 2 regions. The Correze and Charente. and It always appears to be the British.
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Why on earth would anyone want to go to France at the moment when the FO advises against it??
 
Suavecarve, I respect a lot of what you have previously written on the subject. However, it appears that you only wish to see things your way.

There are people on this Forum, both in the UK and in France, who share my views regarding how one should behave/protect themselves during the pandemic. If our mutual governments allow 'casual' travel' - FCO advice (?) - between our 'infected' countries then so be it. Come on over, but do so at your own risk, just the same as we would if we came back to the UK. Not likely for the forseeable future.

Where have I said I wish to IMPOSE my life choices on others? I have said that "I'm abiding by the previous lockdown rules sans paperwork" Not that difficult, shopping once a week, no 'Home Delivery' here. Our neighbours' are all of the same 'mindset' to protect themselves and their families, remember this is rural France and families are generally local and even a few with Great Grand Parents. It was our Mayor that advised against local gatherings and that was for the most part agreed and abided by.

As I have previously stated I lost a younger cousin to Covid in the UK and at 73 I'm not going to do anything that will increase my risk to the disease.

Stay Safe

Robert
 
pandas said:
I case you had not understood: Logic is those in the pub should be sitting down with 2 m or 1.5m intervention nobody at the bar. Masks by those shopping. Quite simple but some haven’t managed to clock it yet!
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Walk in with others, give name tel etc with others (yes 1mt distance) people walking past to seats, ditto leaving, my 2 locals order at the bar, blah blah. So many grey areas and contradictions.
 
Nirvanauk said:
Why on earth would anyone want to go to France at the moment when the FO advises against it??
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Because geographically, the vast majority of the France land mass has a relatively low infection rate, skewed by a few hotspots. The FCO advice just isn't sophisticated enough to be able to identify/isolate those areas apparently.
 

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