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The Dutch are a canny lot...........I'm half with you...if a uniformed cop in a dayglo jacket stood at the side of a road and shook his/her head and pointed at people who weren't driving to the letter of the law...they'd slow down/put their phone down etc etc. You could argue his/her presence contributes to safety as people slow down. The same sort of thing with camera vans...people see them and slow down....but I'd rather they were just honest and called them speed camera vans. "Speeding is against the law, speed and you may get done, don't moan about it, just slow down" sort of thing.
Tow dogs ?ink its time the whole business of weight/payload was overhauled. We bought an Elddis Aspire 255 in 2012, it was rated at 3500kg at the NEC the supplying dealer threw in a paper upgrade to 3700 kg but two adults tow dogs and a packet of crisps we were 3580 kg. We bought a new Burstner IEXO 736 4 berth 2019 rated at 4000kgs even with 20 litres of water minimum bedding and food we were 4120 kgs with four adults. Even we uprated to 4500 kg we have to be careful when loading.
Yeah, wouldn't want them to hand me back a Carthago A Class by mistake!Let's hope some vans were returned to thier rightfull owners![]()
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Here in Powys they announce online each month exactly where you can expect to find the mobile cameras.I disagree. In North Yorkshire we have no fixed cameras but mobile vans that can be almost anywhere. It means you have to drive always within the limit or close to it unless you want a ticket. I think we ought to have more mobile cameras around the country and they should be allowed to operate anywhere.
We only have a small portable container for water at 12ltrs maxI'm struggling a bit on your water and gas figures.
That's why jammers were invented.It means you have to drive always within the limit or close to it unless you want a ticket.
locally we have a facebook group that notifies of the current and next location for the ex police photographic society vans. Often illegally parked as it happens, on pavements or part blocking a carriageway with no parking allowedHere in Powys they announce online each month exactly where you can expect to find the mobile cameras.
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Thats quite good for a conversion, our stock T6 .1 kombi weighs that.Had our new to us VW T5 t30 campervan weighed on Thursday with pop-top roof and full conversion, plus 80 ltrs diesel as full and 6kg water, plus gas at 3kg.
GVW unladen is 3000kg.
Van came in at 2180kg.
With 2 adults at 75kg each and grand kids at 21kg each makes us at 2372kg ready to load and roll.
Payload therefore at 628kg!!!
Was quite surprised at this and we won't use anywhere near this as we are completely downsizing.
Oh, and van has uprated tyres for weight.
It may be worth your while to research legal exemptions for vehicles engaged on police duties.locally we have a facebook group that notifies of the current and next location for the ex police photographic society vans. Often illegally parked as it happens, on pavements or part blocking a carriageway with no parking allowed
It'll be interesting if our 1998 Tardis-Too ever gets stopped for checking.Will they have a DVLA Manager in attendance to explain to the Police why there are discrepancies on V5c forms?
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Ooooh..........another VDub owner.Thats quite good for a conversion, our stock T6 .1 kombi weighs that.
No issues here. We weighed our van every spring AND before every long trip. Fully laden we were never closer than 90kg (below) max weight and axles both also within plated rates.Ignorance is NO excuse
Incoming![]()
The opportunity to intervene on a free flowing carriageway may be quite difficult and having a 'one to one' conversation with a multitude of drivers would be impossible. 'After the event' challenges by correspondence are productive in many ways, most speeding offences within the initial offending band are generally disposed of via speed awareness courses which are provided by third parties. The 'owning force' do not gain financially other than funding via their road safety partnerships so they have no money making incentive to conduct speeding detection programs. The deterent benefit is well documented, many attending speed awareness courses are surprised how little they new/understood about driving and pass on those messages to family and friends. So for every encounter the 'deterent' message is multiplied several times; it would be a simple presumption to think if you were taken to task for any motoring issues via a stop check or detection vehicle you would be more careful next time in that locality and so would any others that you told about it. That to me seems to promote road safety and avoiding costly fines, thus quite the opposite of generating income.If their intentions were to protect others then surely an immediate intervention should be made to remove the risk by stopping the unsafe act. What they are currently doing is imposing financial penalty which if repeated sufficiently would eventually eliminate risk by removal of driver entitlement. Therefore, I stand by my point that these operations are more about raising revenue than reducing risk to road users.
But they are not police and not on police business. Local safety camera partnership. None of them hold a current valid warrant cardIt may be worth your while to research legal exemptions for vehicles engaged on police duties.
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Then your vehicle does not comply with the construction and use regulations, as it is not in any taxation class officiallyIt'll be interesting if our 1998 Tardis-Too ever gets stopped for checking.
My V5c has absolutely NO weight figures printed on it of any sort ..... NOR does the original Ford Factory VIN Plate have any stamped weights on it ..... NOR does the Converters-Build VIN Plate have any stamped weights on it.
..... Bob surreptitiously thumbs-nose at DVLA / DVSA![]()
exactly, but they masquerade as police officers. They never say it, but imply it. They man the vans and take the photographs but legally a police officer has to agree each one to report it. They rarely do and just rubber stamp the output from the vans. Same thing goes on with the fixed cameras. Civilians process the data, no photos to develop these days as the cameras are all digital and send the shots in immediately via mobile network. A mobile phone jammer, although illegal would cause havoc if used by a camera locationThe guys that set up outside my house are civilian employees and quite chatty.
Not so .... ALL the vehicle V5c Documents have always been "blank weight" (I have copies of all of them them dating back to First Registration) and it was originally built for & registered by a District Council when it was built by a manufacturer in Wales (IIRC) and it has been Registered & Taxed as a Disabled Class vehicle by the DVLA for the many years I've owned it without any problem.Then your vehicle does not comply with the construction and use regulations, as it is not in any taxation class officially
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I wasnt aware that you could dispatch a chicken by sticking a strawberry up its ae*e ! I wonder how hard and how far it needs to goThere's more than one way of killing a chicken, other than by sticking a strawberry up its ar*e as my old boss used to say.
But you would remove the immediate risk. Intervention worked for many years prior to the introduction of the cash cow vans.The opportunity to intervene on a free flowing carriageway may be quite difficult and having a 'one to one' conversation with a multitude of drivers would be impossible. 'After the event' challenges by correspondence are productive in many ways, most speeding offences within the initial offending band are generally disposed of via speed awareness courses which are provided by third parties. The 'owning force' do not gain financially other than funding via their road safety partnerships so they have no money making incentive to conduct speeding detection programs. The deterent benefit is well documented, many attending speed awareness courses are surprised how little they new/understood about driving and pass on those messages to family and friends. So for every encounter the 'deterent' message is multiplied several times; it would be a simple presumption to think if you were taken to task for any motoring issues via a stop check or detection vehicle you would be more careful next time in that locality and so would any others that you told about it. That to me seems to promote road safety and avoiding costly fines, thus quite the opposite of generating income.
There you go again, trying to spoil a tired narrative by providing actual facts and details - outrageousThe opportunity to intervene on a free flowing carriageway may be quite difficult and having a 'one to one' conversation with a multitude of drivers would be impossible. 'After the event' challenges by correspondence are productive in many ways, most speeding offences within the initial offending band are generally disposed of via speed awareness courses which are provided by third parties. The 'owning force' do not gain financially other than funding via their road safety partnerships so they have no money making incentive to conduct speeding detection programs. The deterent benefit is well documented, many attending speed awareness courses are surprised how little they new/understood about driving and pass on those messages to family and friends. So for every encounter the 'deterent' message is multiplied several times; it would be a simple presumption to think if you were taken to task for any motoring issues via a stop check or detection vehicle you would be more careful next time in that locality and so would any others that you told about it. That to me seems to promote road safety and avoiding costly fines, thus quite the opposite of generating income.
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I am not sure what a “ valid warrant card” has to do with it?But they are not police and not on police business. Local safety camera partnership. None of them hold a current valid warrant card