Ouch! A1 Newark... Hire Motorhome destroyed. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I know).

[Two on Tour]

Yes I know the speed limit for a non restricted vehicle so they shouldn’t be doing 80

Saint or a sinner ?

 

[Wildweasle]

I would be devastated if that happened to me, the grog locker is in the rear locker

 

[DuxDeluxe]

I would be devastated if that happened to me, the grog locker is in the rear locker

For similar reasons, I am dreading being sideswiped on the passenger side. Yes cruiser the grog locker door is fully alarmed.........

 

[Larrynwin]

When on the road I always keep above around 58mph otherwise the truckers tailgate and this could well show what could happen.
Trust they are all ok.

 

[Mark and Mindy]

However, they've done exactly this quite successfully on the A329(M). The mainline is D2M, but drops to D1M after the M4 slips and picks them up again 750m down the line. The aim wasn't to improve merging safety (although it has this side effect), but to reduce backing up of the M4 to A329(M) traffic onto L1 of M4.

It does seem to have worked. (I was very sceptical and I'm sure there will be differing opinions even now!)

The key is the traffic volumes and what they do. Sometimes, removing the lane at a junction actually improves flow, especially at major divergent junctions, as the flow within the junction is much lower and the subsequent merge much easier without all the weaving. My worry with the A303/A34 is that some of the divergence happens earlier at the M3/A303 interchange, so there is a greater than would be expected mainline traffic volume at the A303/A34.

Do you mean this as reported last week. 'Stupid and dangerous' A329M M4 junction could be changed after crashes and delays. https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/stupid-dangerous-a329m-m4-junction-18833093. Appalling road engineering.

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[rosalan]

It is so easy to be self righteous after seeing an accident like this. A collection of people brought together into an accident none of them would have wanted. The road is full of idiot drivers who did not expect an accident. I do not expect to have an accident and for that reason I too am an idiot and must take extra care.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Saint or a sinner ?

Im no saint but tend to be very aware of what’s around me and on/off ramps etc.

Drive to the conditions and road variations

 

[Podney]

Saw the tailbacks from this as we made our way north to Yorkshire this morning. Let’s hope no one was hurt,but seems unlikely.
I love driving on the A1,even in the motorhome,you have to concentrate and anticipate every second.
PS.Why does it always rain in Yorkshire?

 

[ambulancekidd]

It is so easy to be self righteous after seeing an accident like this. A collection of people brought together into an accident none of them would have wanted. The road is full of idiot drivers who did not expect an accident. I do not expect to have an accident and for that reason I too am an idiot and must take extra care.

Sadly an awful lot of drivers don't expect anything to happen on the roads at all, but they're driving standards almost guarantee that they will have at least one collision.

Some people simply shouldn't be allowed to drive, an aptitude test would sort out some of the common driving failure types, those who cannot reverse properly are a classic example.

 

[Off da Grid]

Shouldn’t you all be more worried about how flimsy the vehicle was rather than the
problem with the road.
Just think what could have happened if the lorry had ridden up over the chassis and flattened the cab as well.

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[cmcardle75]

Yes I know the speed limit for a non restricted vehicle so they shouldn’t be doing 80

The safety depends on the speed that vehicles travel, not the speed at which they are permitted to travel.

 

[TonyEmm]

Hi looks like just before the turn off for Brownhills at the A46/A17, All ways getting tail backs there getting off the A1

This was on the A1 southbound, approaching the Winthorpe roundabout. Apparently it was a 3 vehicle accident as there was a car involved too.... no reported injuries, fortunately.

Quite how the car was involved isn’t at all clear. The media gloss over the fact that it was even there.
it would be interesting to see the accident investigation report! .

Live: A1 closed following crash involving lorry and mobile home

Traffic already looks to be building in the area according to Google Maps.

www.nottinghampost.com

 

[Wildweasle]

This was on the A1 southbound, approaching the Winthorpe roundabout. Apparently it was a 3 vehicle accident as there was a car involved too.... no reported injuries, fortunately.

Quite how the car was involved isn’t at all clear. The media gloss over the fact that it was even there.
it would be interesting to see the accident investigation report! .

Live: A1 closed following crash involving lorry and mobile home

Traffic already looks to be building in the area according to Google Maps.

www.nottinghampost.com

That begs the question as to the occupants of said car.

 

[Two on Tour]

You can't beat a good media quote can you.

"Highways England posted to Twitter an image of the crash scene, showing what was left of the motorhome strewn across the carriageway, along with a strong warning.

It said: "Ever thought of sleeping in your motorhome whilst it is on the move? Here's a good reason why use of the correct seats is essential.""

 

[TonyEmm]

That begs the question as to the occupants of said car.

My thoughts too! How was the car involved? Did it carve up the m/h which then got wacked by the lorry?
was it being towed by the M/H, maybe?
pure speculation of course!

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[TonyEmm]

You can't beat a good media quote can you.

"Highways England posted to Twitter an image of the crash scene, showing what was left of the motorhome strewn across the carriageway, along with a strong warning.

It said: "Ever thought of sleeping in your motorhome whilst it is on the move? Here's a good reason why use of the correct seats is essential.""

It sounds like good advice to me! How often does one ’get their head down’ while the partner carries on driving, I wonder? It’s also a very good argument for having pets properly restrained. It could be your pooch lying in the road....

 

[Suvvi]

We drove past this northbound coming back from Harwich and I honestly thought it was a Luton van!

 

[Jaws]

Suspect the driver may well have lost his/er deposit !
Thank goodness that is all they lost !!

 

[mike mcglynn]

After seeing Traffic Cops on tv last night ,I saw a police car come up fast behind a small fiat and the lady driver panicked when see saw it in the mirror and pulled over very quickly ,lost control the car veered all over the road and shot straight through the Armco barrier and ended up in thick woodland .luckily she wasn’t hurt the car was a write off .This all happened in less than five seconds .

 

[Camdoon]

Came down the A1 on Friday around 1400hr and the queue back from the junction was about a mile. The issue then is that for those who don't travel the road frequently, they can be stuck in the inside lane then with the road sign or nearing the exit realise it is the junction causing the hold-up and that they could be moving faster in the overtaking lane. Plenty of scope for an accident when a stationary vehicle moves out.

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[EuroTrotters]

I’m not familiar with the junction. Is it a big danger ?

 

[Camdoon]

I’m not familiar with the junction. Is it a big danger ?

Not really, it is the tailback distance, it has to increase to about a mile to cause an issue. Drivers will be unaware that they are in a queue to come off the road rather than just in a jam or slow moving traffic. It is when they can move out that the issues start. 90% of the time both lanes are totally clear so it is not an issue.

 

[rangi]

I knew this would happen said so at the time!!



Removing the man with the red flag walking in front was a wrong move!!

 

[SpeedyDux]

After seeing Traffic Cops on tv last night ,I saw a police car come up fast behind a small fiat and the lady driver panicked when see saw it in the mirror and pulled over very quickly ,lost control the car veered all over the road and shot straight through the Armco barrier and ended up in thick woodland .luckily she wasn’t hurt the car was a write off .This all happened in less than five seconds .

It can be a shock to be overtaken by cops on a blue light run doing 130+

I don't think they fully realise the startling effect this can have on a driver pootling along not paying 100% attention to mirrors.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

It can be a shock to be overtaken by cops on a blue light run doing 130+

I don't think they fully realise the startling effect this can have on a driver pootling along not paying 100% attention to mirrors.

If you have ever been in an emergency vehicle on a blue light run, you'd know that too many drivers do panic when they finally awake that blue lights are there. It's extremely unnerving to await the resulting reaction, the only guarantee being it can be unpredictable and quite probably very hazardous. As well as blue lights the language in the emergency vehicle will often be very blue as the emergency driver works hard to maintain progress safely.

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[cruiser]

Oh dear that jun is a bit of a pest at times. I now know where that DuxDeluxe hides his booze. So where to park on the right side.. Mine is at the back. And that is where our guard dog sits. So beware. LOL

 

[busby]

What you’re suggesting then is because one vehicle/driver cannot use the road correctly then every other vehicle that managed to use that section of road correctly has to suffer reduced speed limits therefore longer journey times. I would rather just see the problem driver dealt with appropriately than everyone else having to change.

Longer journey times my foot..High speed has little to do with journey times it's keeping moving.If a speed limit stops accidents then it will make your journey quicker..Trucks travel long distances in virtually the same time as cars and are restricted to 56 mph.BUSBY.

 

[Larrynwin]

Not necessarily speed but driving too close and truckers are good at it.
HGVs should be fitted with automatic speed related anti tailgating/collision devices, many lives could be saved.

 

[gus-lopez]

Not necessarily speed but driving too close and truckers are good at it.
HGVs should be fitted with automatic speed related anti tailgating/collision devices, many lives could be saved.

But they wouldn't get the economy of slipstreaming?

Shouldn’t you all be more worried about how flimsy the vehicle was rather than the
problem with the road.
Just think what could have happened if the lorry had ridden up over the chassis and flattened the cab as well.

No different to being in a mini

 

[glenn2926]

Longer journey times my foot..High speed has little to do with journey times it's keeping moving.If a speed limit stops accidents then it will make your journey quicker..Trucks travel long distances in virtually the same time as cars and are restricted to 56 mph.BUSBY.

So what you are claiming is in effect if we choose a static point. Say a sign post. You are trying to tell me that more vehicles can pass that point in one hour if they are all travelling at say 60 mph than would pass the point if they were all travelling at say 80 mph. Maths didn’t work like that when I went to school.
I wonder why the fastest car/ driver wins the motor racing. Surely with your reckoning the slower drivers/cars should get there at the same time as the faster ones.
Makes me wonder why for thirty years I bothered with the blues and twos if going faster didn’t get me to the incident quicker.

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