Not strictly speaking a motorhome question but it could well be relevant to some of us

[chaser]

I pretty much think this is how it will be, we are well into 6 months now so must have been loads like him, has anyone heard of anyone being fined, I haven't.

 

[Minxy]

I pretty much think this is how it will be, we are well into 6 months now so must have been loads like him, has anyone heard of anyone being fined, I haven't.

It really depends on whether the Spanish were trying to get people out of the country when they 'purged' however which was likely more important than issuing fines (although I believe the Spanish do like fining people!), I think when people start wanting to go back again it could then that it bites them in the bum and wallet, assuming they're allowed in at all ... only time will tell.

 

[chaser]

It really depends on whether the Spanish were trying to get people out of the country when they 'purged' however which was likely more important than issuing fines (although I believe the Spanish do like fining people!), I think when people start wanting to go back again it could then that it bites them in the bum and wallet, assuming they're allowed in at all ... only time will tell.

But if they never stamped his passport, who is going to bother?

 

[Al n Val]

But if they never stamped his passport, who is going to bother?

only time will tell

bearing in mind this was a Spanish airport passport official, now when it comes to a french/german one who knows, it could well be a completely scenario.

Spain is laid back until its something that they don't like and then up comes the middle finger, France & Germany may well see it as a red rag to a bull and banish us all that stay longer than 90days to middle earth never to be seen again .

I will post back any info when he returns to Spain later on in the year if he lets me know, he has promised to, so lets wait and see.

Al

 

[Minxy]

But if they never stamped his passport, who is going to bother?

It will still be in the 'system' so if a country's border control want to check they can and then do as they please.

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[Langtoftlad]

Stamp is insignificant - was his passport scanned?
The data will be there, if they want to use it.

 

[stevewagner]

I think the calculations for loss of income for the Spanish businesses is rather simplistic. Yes visitors and motorhomers will leave after 90 days but more will come. Visitors of all forms come and go all the time so I think the losses (if any) will be negligible and certainly not enough to,worry the authorities.

 

[stevewagner]

I am not in the least bit interested in learning how much money Funsters or their friends spend in a week.

I am a teeny weeny bit interested in wondering why they feel the need to publish this info on the internet though.

I am far more interested in finding out if they are nice, warm hearted and generous people who are happy to share their good luck with folk who are less fortunate...

JJ

PS. I do enjoy reading a thread where folk start throwing their toys out of their pram just to see how close they can get to falling foul of Rule 1.

I couldn’t agree more! Some of the wealth boasting on here is embarrassing to say the least.

 

[stevewagner]

I think we put too much self importance on what we British put into the economy of Spain, I think the french, Germans, Dutch and other Europeans will happily fill the void that the British leave …..

Don’t forget the Ruskies!

 

[Northernraider]

When i returned from France in march it wasn't the french who stamped my passport it was the Brits. Id have thought it would be stamped on arrival back in the uk .




That said i do think its an arrogant attitude brits have thinking they are somehow exempt from these things.

Im personally gutted by the 90 day rule but i will obey it and explore places not included within it to extend my trips.
But its hypocritical to want illegal immigrants in uk that are often escaping attrocities or trying to escape poverty etc dealt with harshly while sympathising with brits doing it elsewhere just for a holiday

Its also weird how people coming to the uk are called immigrants but brits going elsewhere call themselves expats

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[RustyRuss]

Ruby optics I think Alnval are on the money here. The 90 days bullshit has been imposed on us by Brexit. There are LOTS of people out in Spain, Portugal, France, Greece, wherever, that are totally pissed off that they have had to curtail their fun in the sun because a load of extremely ill informed and lied to, people in the UK decided that “immigrants aren’t welcome”, voted for Brexit, and now realise that the powers the consequences are more draconian than they envisaged. I bet LOTS of them are now pissed off that they can’t go and live in Southern Europe for 6 months a year to avoid our awful weather because they didn’t realise they were voting for it!!! I advocate listening to what Alnval’s mate encounters as he progresses through this situation and then voice your opinion.
Cheers! Russ

Jim, I’ve had my say, I won’t reply to this post so you don’t need to bother about barring me buddy!

 

[Rapido925M]

I pretty much think this is how it will be, we are well into 6 months now so must have been loads like him, has anyone heard of anyone being fined, I haven't.

Well into 6 months from what?

Gordon

 

[Northernraider]

Well into 6 months from what?

Gordon

Im guessing 6 months from brexit .

But only 3 months past the last possible date from 90 day limit starting 31st march

 

[Rapido925M]

Im guessing 6 months from brexit .

But only 3 months past the last possible date from 90 day limit starting 31st march

Brexit Day = 31st Dec 2020 2300 GMT

31st Jan 2021 = 1 month
28th Feb 2021 = 2 month
31st Mar 2021 = 3 month
30th April 2021 = 4 month
31st May 2021 = 5 month (and we haven't got there yet!)

Gordon

 

[Northernraider]

Brexit Day = 31st Dec 2020 2300 GMT

31st Jan 2021 = 1 month
28th Feb 2021 = 2 month
31st Mar 2021 = 3 month
30th April 2021 = 4 month
31st May 2021 = 5 month (and we haven't got there yet!)

Gordon

I know ...i was just attempting to explain chaser 6 month statement.

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[Al n Val]

I couldn’t agree more! Some of the wealth boasting on here is embarrassing to say the least.

Is anyone boasting about wealth on this thread?

 

[Al n Val]

Stamp is insignificant - was his passport scanned?
The data will be there, if they want to use it.

just returning to this

Will says he did not see the official scan his passport, he looked at the photo, folded it closed again and passed it back to him

Could this be the Spanish authorities way of saying that they aren’t bothered about banning people returning back into their country and middle finger to the Brussels Bureaucrats

 

[Langtoftlad]

Could this be the Spanish authorities way of saying that they aren’t bothered about banning people returning back into their country and middle finger to the Brussels Bureaucrats

Unlikely.
It's almost universal procedure these days to scan passports at borders, or swipe them through a code reader.
Unless the border official knew your friend had overstayed, there'd be nothing to make him alter standard process.
But, hey, anything is possible.

 

[Al n Val]

Unlikely.
It's almost universal procedure these days to scan passports at borders, or swipe them through a code reader.
Unless the border official knew your friend had overstayed, there'd be nothing to make him alter standard process.
But, hey, anything is possible.

but could be likely as well

 

[RubyOptics]

Ruby optics I think Alnval are on the money here. The 90 days bullshit has been imposed on us by Brexit. There are LOTS of people out in Spain, Portugal, France, Greece, wherever, that are totally pissed off that they have had to curtail their fun in the sun because a load of extremely ill informed and lied to, people in the UK decided that “immigrants aren’t welcome”, voted for Brexit, and now realise that the powers the consequences are more draconian than they envisaged. I bet LOTS of them are now pissed off that they can’t go and live in Southern Europe for 6 months a year to avoid our awful weather because they didn’t realise they were voting for it!!! I advocate listening to what Alnval’s mate encounters as he progresses through this situation and then voice your opinion.
Cheers! Russ

Jim, I’ve had my say, I won’t reply to this post so you don’t need to bother about barring me buddy!

I'm genuinely confused as to the point that you are trying to make and also why you are directing it at me?? I bear no ill-will towards Al n Val , their friend, nor anyone else?
I'm well aware of the consequences of Brexit. I'm British but emigrated to Poland over 7 years ago. The difference is that when I did so I followed the rules for doing so, registered my stay and got my Polish equivalent of an NI number. I'm not retired (sadly!) and so I also pay my taxes in Poland to my Polish registered business. As a Polish resident I can travel freely within the EU just as I used to and so the consequences of Brexit in regards to travel don't apply to me so I'm again confused as to why I need to heed what happened to someone in completely different circumstances to myself?
The facts of the matter, when you actually take all of your anger out of the equation, are really very simple. Prior to Brexit, you were still required to register your stay if you were planning to stay over 90 days. Thousands either didn't bother or didn't for tax purposes. Brexit then happened and even after giving people a whole YEAR to register their stay, people still didn't bother and now express surprise that they can no longer live in that country.

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[RubyOptics]

I'll also finish by saying this. Al n Val I looked through this entire thread to try and understand the above post directed at myself. In doing so, I believe that, even though I do disagree with the actions your friend took and the comments made, I expressed my feelings in a rather non-productive and possibly offensive way. Please allow me to apologise to both of you for any offence caused.

 

[Northernraider]

but could be likely as well

In all honesty id ask your friend to show you his passport. Id be surprised if it wasnt stamped as its now common practice since January 1st .
But i would bet my life it was scanned.

No disrespect but he sounds a bit of a blowhard to be honest .....and im a doubting thomas.

 

[androidGB]

Thank you for providing the update. I don't feel the need to give my opinion, which I am sure is of no interest to anyone but am grateful to you for providing information on the experiences of your friend ​

 

[Bolti]

In all honesty id ask your friend to show you his passport. Id be surprised if it wasnt stamped as its now common practice since January 1st .
But i would bet my life it was scanned.

No disrespect but he sounds a bit of a blowhard to be honest .....and im a doubting thomas.

When we arrived back in the UK in February our passports were not stamped which is a pain as you have to remember to write in the date so you can work out the 90 in 180.

 

[PJGWiltshire]

Just a side point on this story around residence in Spain post Brexit for Uk nationals..
I have two people known to me. Cannot call them close friends just a couple we met whilst in Spain and generally keep in contact. He 70 years old UK national retired with state and private pension. Owns a small house in Spain lived there for 7 years.
She 60 years old UK national, no pension fully supported by him. Met 2 1/2 years ago in Spain, she stayed in Spain then moved in with him. No employment no income.
Both applied in December for residence. He gets residence She is refused. She is still in Spain refusing to leave. Spanish authorities not doing a thing to force to leave. She now with local support groups fighting decision. From what I understand local mayors are trying to support UK nationals in these positions.
So its clearly a mess over there.

My wife applied in UK for her leave to remain with Maltese passport. Authorised in 14 days (I'm appealing) so its a mish mash.

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[Al n Val]

In all honesty id ask your friend to show you his passport. Id be surprised if it wasnt stamped as its now common practice since January 1st .
But i would bet my life it was scanned.

No disrespect but he sounds a bit of a blowhard to be honest .....and im a doubting thomas.

So your asking me to call out my mate who i’ve known for 50+ years because you think he’s not telling the truth

Yeah and pigs will fly

He doesn’t even know these posts are being posted so why would he lie to me??

 

[Northernraider]

So your asking me to call out my mate who i’ve known for 50+ years because you think he’s not telling the truth

Yeah and pigs will fly

He doesn’t even know these posts are being posted so why would he lie to me??

Bravado its what people do. And im not asking you to call out anyone as i dont care either way to be honest.


I just said i think he's lying .... Its my opinion ...everyones entitled to one.

 

[Al n Val]

Bravado its what people do. And im not asking you to call out anyone as i dont care either way to be honest.


I just said i think he's lying .... Its my opinion ...everyones entitled to one.

yeah so am I

and if your not bothered either way why ask in the first place

 

[Northernraider]

yeah so am I

and if your not bothered either way why ask in the first place

I was bored as you must have been when you posted it.

 

[Al n Val]

KBW

tbh your a time waster mate so goodbye, good riddance and goodnight

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