It's probably worth bearing in mind that the actual finger will also have to be produced at the port to verify against the one recorded.Do you work for HSBC? that is there sort of reasoningWho in his right mind would allow anyone to supply there own fingerprints?
It’s not nonsense at all it’s what our useless politicians allowed to happen, I voted leave because of all the bullshit from Brussels yet we still allow it, I would be asking our 650 MP’s WHY?
True, although I once was told off for eating a banana in the queue for US immigration in Vancouver on the way to a conference in the US!
No because the eu citizen is exempt from etias as are permanent residents in other eu states.
I believe the delay is to move the introduction to a quieter time of the year. It was meant to be starting in high summer when passenger numbers are greatest! They have seen the risk in trying that.
Mine was stamped on the Italian French border in 1980There has been an increase in numbers but also computers which we were promised by 'Tomorrows World' "would speed up our lives so much that we would only be working a 3day week".
They added, "our biggest problem would be what to do with our spare time"
I think they got that slightly wrong don't you?
(I seem to think we were still having to get our passports stamped after 1973, maybe I'm wrong???)
I was assuming he was an Irish citizen and she was a UK national.
I mentioned earlier they have this sort of checkin arangement at Dublin as well.
My point was that IF we were still in the EU we would not need ETAIS and all the hassle it will bring. The other stuff (a bit tongue in cheek perhaps) I mentioned is also all fact, that is making travel by a vehicle to France etc. much more difficult. You exercised your right to vote leave, which I respect. Unfortunately, there are some other people around who can't accept that we may have shot ourselves in the foot, and that the advantages of brexit, non of which spring to mind at the moment, seem to be heavily outweighed by the disadvantages. Our politicians were probably just as 'useless' as you say, before brexit, why would you think they would be any different after?
I've been to the USA on their visa waiver scheme as well and it seemed ok. The problem will be vehicles and ferry/tunnel. The EITAS scheme will probably have been planned around air travel. A massive percentage of non European travellers will arrive in the EU by air. Us who travel under/over the channel will have the problems. As has been said previously, if each person has to get out of a vehicle to do a finger or eye scan, it will be chaos. Even if they had some sort of device they could push through your window so people could scan that way it will still take a very long time, leading to massive delays. We've seen what happened this summer, at peak times without EITAS, so unless the government has a 'cunning plan' and is going to completely restructure our ports then we can expect a lot of issues when EITAS is introduced.
I think the key point that most seem to be missing is that the flip side of being able to make our own rules about who comes here and our rules about the process apply equally in the opposite direction. They can do what they like!
Bob.
Get uses to it. Because let's face the blind truth. That's why it's happening and it's downright annoying to those who knew it was a stupid idea.
How come you didn't realise our politicians were useless before hand and not work out we'd be better run by Europe's politicians than our own useless overpayed self serving idiots.
That's the bit I can't understand. Who actually believes any of our politicians? Their track record is diabolical . Proven time and time again . They uses to at least attempt to hide their lies but the last 10- 15 years they no longer bother.
November 23rd?? All I know is in the US its national, eat a cranberry day, national jukebox day, national cashew day and national espresso day. Did I miss something?Don’t worry, we’ll be back in the EU by November 23
Nonsense it's all because things where not thrashed out by the government with the EU. Its just political failure nothing else.
Their border, their rules. We supported it before leaving the EU:
'Thrashed out'? 'just a politacal failure, nothing else? Along with Covid, brexit has been the most seismic event that has happened to the UK in 50 years. Did people honestly think that government would be able unpick nearly 50 years of being part of the EU and have something to replace it that work smoothly and allow us to carry on with our neighbours as if not much had changed? Did all those people that voted to leave really believe it would not cause major problem?
I'm not against ETIAS. As has been said before, their borders, their rules. I would just have preferred it to be, our borders, our rules.
Aye one of many political failures since 2009 . As i said half the country did predict these issues
It was in ref to an earlier post, so November 2023. That’s the date it’s supposed to be pushed back too and I said, tongue-in-cheek that we’ll be back in the EU by then. Do try and keep up old boy
Yes & in my wikdest dreams I have no idea how that will work? The noneu will need etias but how the travelling with/without can work ?
Exactly!
Presumably the non EU will need an etias and be electronically recorded one try. On exit if they are with their EU spouse the length of stay is not recorded in the 90 days. I think I saw somewhere if the EU spouse leaves part way through the stay counts for the non EU as a trip alone unless they leave at the same time.
Really lol
Lol if I go to a chip shop and order chips but they bring me mashed potato instead that's not my fault if I have been told there's plenty of chips as per my post above government failure not the majority who voted for it. But I suppose that's life isn't it. Can trust anyone to do what they say still worse things happen at sea
Yes really . By your own admission you haven't got what you apparently thought you were getting
. Yet you still defend the decision. And people wonder how the country is in a mess. Any manager or ceo who ran a company like that would be sacked . But people keep voting in the same parties that fail time and time again . What's the incentive for them to do any better? . The UK is weak and its citizens weaker. No backbone. Even allowing their freedoms to protest to be silently stolen away. There are none so blind as those who will not see. And it seems being stubborn is the new answer. 
