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Minxy Girl said:
SVTech do not have more influence over the DVLA than any other company/engineer so that doesn't mean that using them will give you an 'advantage' enabling you to get your V5C back quicker, it's all down to the luck of the draw at the DVLA.
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Didn’t say they do but they are a well known professional company that have been dealing with DVLA for some years so that must help.(y)
I think you must have shares in JR consultancy as you bite at every comment.
 
Speve said:
Didn’t say they do but they are a well known professional company that have been dealing with DVLA for some years so that must help.(y)
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Why? Are you saying that DVLA staff do 'favouritism'? :ROFLMAO:

I think you must have shares in JR consultancy as you bite at every comment.
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That's rather a nasty thing to say ... you'll find that I do NOT bite at every comment but if there's something worth replying to I do, the reply was in this regard to DVLA allegedly giving preferential treatment to one company over another, regardless of it being JR or SVTech, or any other company for that matter.

Some people appear to be oversensitive to having comments made on their posts ...:rolleyes:
 
This forum does at times appear a little pre-occupied with assuming every little misdemeanour will invalidate your insurance. I can’t ever remember a case of someone being prosecuted for no insurance because they have been caught by the police/VOSA for being overweight. Does every drink driver get prosecuted for no insurance or every driver prosecuted for dangerous driving? Of course not if this were the case every speeding driver would have invalid insurance.

I would agree we should all drive within the legal limits, however there is a big difference between a motorhome rated at 3500kgs that will occasionally be 50kg over weight with full water tanks, that is most likely only a paper exercise to upgrade by 350kg anyway, and one that’s deliberately used with a motorcycle hanging on the back and a dozen crates of beer in the garage dangerously overloading the rear axle. This is why VOSA allow a 5% over weight.

https://www.freight-train.co.uk/downloads/VOSA_GFPN_guidance.pdf

From Page 12 of the above link to VOSA pdf
"The legislation shows that a £60.00 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more."
 
“This forum does at times appear a little pre-occupied with assuming every little misdemeanour will invalidate your insurance. I can’t ever remember a case of someone being prosecuted for no insurance because they have been caught by the police/VOSA for being overweight. Does every drink driver get prosecuted for no insurance or every driver prosecuted for dangerous driving? Of course not if this were the case every speeding driver would have invalid insurance.

I would agree we should all drive within the legal limits, however there is a big difference between a motorhome rated at 3500kgs that will occasionally be 50kg over weight with full water tanks, that is most likely only a paper exercise to upgrade by 350kg anyway, and one that’s deliberately used with a motorcycle hanging on the back and a dozen crates of beer in the garage dangerously overloading the rear axle. This is why VOSA allow a 5% over weight.”

A common sense way of viewing this subject and one I agree with.
I’m with you 100% on the pre occupation of discussions that involve minor misdemeanours not just on this forum but also on other forums and of course Facebook. Whilst discussion is good so much misinformation is posted that it is pretty hard to sort the wheat from the chaff, particularly for a newcomer into our world of motorhoming.

P.S. I’m pretty sure the link you have provided is aimed at commercial vehicle operators, I.e. vans and trucks carrying goods for hire and reward, there is some guidance information for private vehicles somewhere but I can’t find it just now.
 
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Crazylegs said:
“This forum does at times appear a little pre-occupied with assuming every little misdemeanour will invalidate your insurance. I can’t ever remember a case of someone being prosecuted for no insurance because they have been caught by the police/VOSA for being overweight. Does every drink driver get prosecuted for no insurance or every driver prosecuted for dangerous driving? Of course not if this were the case every speeding driver would have invalid insurance.
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Don't worry, the authors of such opinions are probably 'Lower deck lawyers' who have never had access to a law book or casebook in their lives.[
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Crazylegs said:
From what I have read and my experience it’s virtually unheard of for a private vehicle ( not a van or truck) to be prosecuted for being overweight in the U.K. providing you are within 10% of your maximum plated weight.The usual course of action involves advice and information that will help prevent the situation reoccurring. Naturally if your vehicle is grossly overweight and unroadworthy you deserve the book being thrown at you.
Elsewhere in Europe there have been several reports of motorhomes being weighed and fined for being overweight in the last few years, but how frequently this occurs is hard to say. I am pleased to report that whilst I have been stopped for a vehicle check I have never been weighed either in a Motorhome or as part of a race team over many many thousands of miles and four decades.
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I'm going to be uprating my van soon with air suspension and bigger wheels/tyres.
I shall be sorting it myself though and not giving my hard earned to anyone unless I really have to.

I was in the commercial vehicle trade years ago and we used to uprate and derate trucks and sorted all the paperwork ourselves, never seemed to be a problem so I shall be giving it a go.
 
I got pulled in bulgaria and weighed good front axle back axle dead on the mark
 
Rob Turner said:
I'm going to be uprating my van soon with air suspension and bigger wheels/tyres.
I shall be sorting it myself though and not giving my hard earned to anyone unless I really have to.

I was in the commercial vehicle trade years ago and we used to uprate and derate trucks and sorted all the paperwork ourselves, never seemed to be a problem so I shall be giving it a go.
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I was under the impression that an engineer report was necessary (DVLA approved?) Which is why most use SVTech/JR
 
Langtoftlad said:
I was under the impression that an engineer report was necessary (DVLA approved?) Which is why most use SVTech/JR
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I don’t know but I’ll look into it.

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That’s correct that’s why I used the cheaper one
 
Rob Turner said:
I'm going to be uprating my van soon with air suspension and bigger wheels/tyres.
I shall be sorting it myself though and not giving my hard earned to anyone unless I really have to.

I was in the commercial vehicle trade years ago and we used to uprate and derate trucks and sorted all the paperwork ourselves, never seemed to be a problem so I shall be giving it a go.
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Rob I think you will be able to do this, I have a similar background to yours and our firm regularly up and downplated trucks according to the owners requirements. Just before they closed our local DSA test station I popped in and had a chat with one of the guys we we knew regarding upping our Hymer to 3850 kgs, he gave me a form to fill in and was of the opinion it wouldn’t be a problem. I didn’t do anything about it for some reason and now the depot has closed, I don’t have a contact for help anymore, but like you I would certainly try and do it myself if I needed too.
 
Crazylegs said:
Rob I think you will be able to do this, I have a similar background to yours and our firm regularly up and downplated trucks according to the owners requirements. Just before they closed our local DSA test station I popped in and had a chat with one of the guys we we knew regarding upping our Hymer to 3850 kgs, he gave me a form to fill in and was of the opinion it wouldn’t be a problem. I didn’t do anything about it for some reason and now the depot has closed, I don’t have a contact for help anymore, but like you I would certainly try and do it myself if I needed too.
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When I imported my van I did all the paperwork for that and it was a nightmare so this should be a doddle.
 
Minxy Girl said:
Some people appear to be oversensitive to having comments made on their posts ...:rolleyes:
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Not at all Minxy it just seems that you get very defensive about comments made about JR consultancy, I know SV Tech have their faults and so does JR and he may be cheaper. I don’t believe DVLA give preferential treatment, could it be that they do have companies that they trust more than others? I don’t know. Perhaps you should ask them.
I don’t think my comment was nasty if you go back and look at posts around uplating it always turns into who’s the boys to do it and in my experience cheapest is not always best.
That’s all I will say on the subject if you know better then good for you(y)(y)(y)
 
Speve said:
Not at all Minxy it just seems that you get very defensive about comments made about JR consultancy, I know SV Tech have their faults and so does JR and he may be cheaper.
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Not defensive, just giving my view, which I'm entitled to ... it tends to be only those who want to say something negative that generally post first, followed more recently by more positive posts, what I don't like is people/companies, no matter who/what they are, being slated for the sake of it continually for something that happened a while ago which is what tends to happen on sites - a company is only as good as the last customer thinks it is. I considered using SVTech myself in the past as they were the only ones who could apparently do this, I haven't had any experience of how good/bad they are, but others have and likewise posted good and bad comments about them, and whilst I find them expensive for what they do, I wouldn't slate them.

I don’t believe DVLA give preferential treatment, could it be that they do have companies that they trust more than others? I don’t know. Perhaps you should ask them.
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:D ... yeah like I'd get a sensible answer!
I don’t think my comment was nasty
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If you had said I just comment that would have been fine by me, but saying I 'bite' is what I objected to as that has a 'mean' connotation to it.
if you go back and look at posts around uplating it always turns into who’s the boys to do it and in my experience cheapest is not always best.
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Your opinion is valid as is other members' views too ... having details of experiences is useful for those thinking of doing it and people will have to decide on which one to use themselves.
That’s all I will say on the subject if you know better then good for you(y)(y)(y)
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Why would I know better? We both have opinions that are valid, I find it better to keep the tone less offensive though and more constructive.
 
Crazylegs said:
Rob I think you will be able to do this.
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Unfortunately I doubt it ... when I looked into this I got in touch initially with DVSA and did the relevant form (VTG10) and supplied supporting docs and a covering letter and was then contacted by them to say they couldn't do it as a private vehicle, hence my digging further and finding JR.
 
@Minxy Girl you May find the thread up-rating the hard way a little more enlightening.(y)(y)
 
Speve said:
JR Consultancy.(y)(y)(y)
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Why ... ? You seem to think that I haven't read it already ... perhaps you should read it again ... that was originally started in 2017 although I appreciate there are more recent comments on it, my own included.

Perhaps you should try not to sh*t stir for the sake of it?
 
Minxy Girl said:
Why ... ? You seem to think that I haven't read it already ... perhaps you should read it again ... that was originally started in 2017 although I appreciate there are more recent comments on it, my own included.

Perhaps you should try not to sh*t stir for the sake of it?
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Not stirring as you so politely say and have read it there were new comments and information added the last couple of pages recently that’s all.
There you go again please don’t take offence I’m only giving an opinion.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
... there you go again ... :rolleyes:

Better things to do than go round in circles.
 
Calm down dears,calm down.:LOL:;);)
 

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