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Only lasts for 12 months . I usually go on line and top my card up but all the hospital visiting last year I forgot . So ill have to get another when we get to asilah ..as well
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Only lasts for 12 months . I usually go on line and top my card up but all the hospital visiting last year I forgot . So ill have to get another when we get to asilah ..as well
TerryL
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I don't bother with the phone generally when in Morocco, the sim card is purely for data. I send texts via Skype, it's only a few pennies each time.
Think I now understand the #3 and #4 - it's when you use a sim card in a phone. Doesn't apply to mifi.
Think I now understand the #3 and #4 - it's when you use a sim card in a phone. Doesn't apply to mifi.
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• £1,150pp for seven days including two nights at a riad, one at a villa and three at a luxury beach camp, all food and drink, hammam, scrubs and massages; and five days of reiki, yoga and meditation.
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2012/may/25/best-new-holidays-in-morocco
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2012/may/25/best-new-holidays-in-morocco
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That’s a bit ambitious for 3weeks especially as 1st timers.
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Totally agree. Stay on the coast and get past Agadir for the better weather.
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Alcohol,be it wine or beer is expensive in Marco, think in terms of £1 -330 cl can, best stock up in Lidl in Palmones the same time as you get your ticket from Carlos.We don't have a barbecue point so can't use a local bottle at the same time as the main LPG.As I understand it I would have to fit the Moroccan bottle directly to the refill point with the gaslow hose and this only works when the main tank is empty letting the gas pass through.
It seems that if you have a separate BB point then the local bottle is an ideal solution.
As for problem number 2 it might be helpful if people could post locations where they have purchased alcohol and get a list together.......................90 days is a long time without
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Hi there TerryL,
Don’t quite understand the post about the Gaslow bottle having to be empty before routing an external bottle, when I was going to Morocco up until 3years ago, I have an Alugas refillable system, same really as the gaslow system really, 2x11 kg bottles, with a “T” piece in the top of the regulator, no auto changeover system, so I used to remove one alugas cylinder and replace it with the 13kg Moroccan cylinder, close the valve of the 2nd alugas cylinder which was still connected to t-piece to regulator and just use Moroccan cylinder, never had a problem, just made sure I had 2full alugas cylinders on arrival in Morocco but only used alugas cylinders for heating boiler (showers) all other use I.e. cooking, boiling water, fridge was supplied from Moroccan gas cylinder lasted 10 weeks in Morocco and only used 1 Alugas cylinder, once you get back to Asilah give the empty/ part Moroccan cylinder to a local, they be glad to take it off you and claim the deposit back, was only about £5 as I remember,then refit the “spare” Alugas cylinder, simples. Oh, and 13kg Moroccan refills as I recall were around £3.50 at the time.
Taken your views on board and going over for 5 weeks now. Thinking of heading East to wards Oujda then South and West to Ar-Rachidia, Ouarzazate, Tafraoute then back up to Tangier Med via Marrakech, Casablanca, Meknes and Fes. Still open to suggestions/constructive comments.
@PhilandMena got my gas sorted now, thanks for your help.
Regards to all.
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Tafroute is normally visited mid Feb as it's high and freezing (ice) at night. The days are fabulous! Many do Morocco anti Clockwise ? Going down the coast first to find heat and then move inland and eventually back up. I would advise you to be flexible and ready to change/adapt accordingly. Many of the places you want to visit can be done on your exit route.
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Tourists found murdered
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/20...denmark-tourists-morocco-atlas-mountains/amp/
P.s not intended to put people off as this could happen anywhere, there’s good and bad in all walks, and I feel very safe in Morocco with all the military and police presence, this appeared to happen in a remote place in the mountains ,
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/20...denmark-tourists-morocco-atlas-mountains/amp/
P.s not intended to put people off as this could happen anywhere, there’s good and bad in all walks, and I feel very safe in Morocco with all the military and police presence, this appeared to happen in a remote place in the mountains ,
TerryL
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And that's a lot of driving on what could only be called "iffy" roads. All you'll see is dust!
TerryL
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Think you've slightly mis-understood. I don't remove the refillable bottle, I've got an adapter hose sold by Gaslow that runs direct from the bottle to the gas filler point and when I park up I just connect the bottle - it means of course that you have to store the bottle somewhere "in transit", mine goes in the back box, but you would also using your method. Gaslow say you should only do this with an empty refillable cylinder, i.e. leave the "empty" cylinder switched on but I've found it doesn't appear to matter, it's just like having a bigger supply bottle.
Up to now I've carried a Spanish bottle, which I exchanged for a full one just before crossing into Maroc. However it seems the standard UK connector fits the Moroccan bottles so I'll try that this year. I'm not too worried if it doesn't work because I know the Moroccans are good at sorting out little things like that! If all else fails I've got a Camping Gaz adapter which fits the small Moroccan bottles. Incidentally I've also got a filter in the supply line before the regulator because gas quality is a bit variable.
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Cheers Marc, very helpful. Is that on same road as fuel station and if so before or after. Are you aware if they can issue new Data Sim cards or just the top up cards.
Hi Phil not used it tbh, if I remember righty it was before petrol station on left hand side, just remember there being a Maroc Tel there,
TerryL
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Thing is there are Maroc Telecom signs everywhere, even in tiny villages. But they probably can only do top-ups. I would guess you need the bigger towns to buy an actual data-sim card.
I suspect your right Terry, I might just do a quick detour of the N1 into Asilha and have a quick look in MT and if it's rammed move on and wait until I get down to Tiznet.
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Does anyone know the current situation at Asilah re guardian parking? I know the old one on the beach has been closed for redevelopment and moved across the road. But I've also read that the campsite is no more expensive (or rather, less cheap!) than the GP. I'll need to stop for a sim card too so Asilah is the obvious choice.
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Think I might find somewhere else for my holiday.
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You are right. Stay at home and lock your doors.
If not where would you choose to feel secure from terrorism? France?Spain ? Germany? Belgium? USA? Mexico? London?
Agreed, if you feel unsafe don't go.
Is there a jihadist threat in Morocco?
By BBC Monitoring
Morocco has been largely spared the jihadist violence seen in other countries in North Africa since deadly bombings in Casablanca killed at least 30 people in 2003.
The country enacted stiff anti-terrorism legislation to address the threat from its own nationals returning home after fighting for Islamic State group (IS) in Syria and Iraq - after an estimated 1,600 Moroccans joined jihadist groups there in 2015
Jihadists of Moroccan origin have also been involved in terrorist attacks in recent years in Belgium and France.
In terms of jihadist presence in Morocco, both Islamic State and its rival al-Qaeda have failed to establish themselves in the country. But this does not rule out the possibility of attacks by sympathisers or operatives who believe it is their duty to act.
TerryL
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Things like this happen every day in most European countries but they're so common (unfortunately) that they are no longer "newsworthy". But like the old edict "dog bites man = no news. Man bites dog = news" it's so rare that it now becomes "newsworthy".
Correct me if I'm wrong fellow Morocco Funsters, but don't we get something like this every year about this time?
Agree entirely with @PhilandMena if you don't feel happy don't go, nobody will think any less of you. But don't let scaremongering (not that this episode could be called that by any means) stop you - that just means that the terrorists have won. You just need to use some common sense, same as you do every day.
Correct me if I'm wrong fellow Morocco Funsters, but don't we get something like this every year about this time?
Agree entirely with @PhilandMena if you don't feel happy don't go, nobody will think any less of you. But don't let scaremongering (not that this episode could be called that by any means) stop you - that just means that the terrorists have won. You just need to use some common sense, same as you do every day.
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I have holidayed in Morocco several times, usually in 4X4's crossing the Sahara. I have a ex-army friend who works out there in security and protection for the government. In his words " Morocco is like a tinderbox waiting to go off" If you look around Europe there have been attacks in the south of France, Spain and Germany by Moroccan nationals. The Moroccan police do a good job on keeping the lid on and protecting tourist out there as they don't want to loose there tourism business. When driving through the desert you might not see the Police/army , but they are keeping an eye on you. On my last trip we were followed by a patrol who kept about a mile behind us. They made camp when we did still keeping there distance. I went across to see them as I was concerned in case we were doing something wrong. They claim they were there just in case we might need assistance. My friend's recent advice when we were thinking of doing another trip out there was there are other places that are safer. France, Spain, Belgium etc. I'm not one for scaremongering. I have traveled and worked in some of the hot spots around the globe. Addis Ababa, Tunisia Cameroon, Kenya, Kazakhstan, Khartoum. Colombia, Sierra Leone, Honduras, Nicaragua just to name a few. Probability is you probably wouldn't have a problem in Morocco, but one should be vigilant and aware. Just saying.
Spot on Terry. To the best of my recollection we always get at least one poster rubbishing Morocco and suggesting it's not a safe place to travel. They don't hang around for long though !
Oops! Don't see Morocco in this list. They must have it wrong.
The 20 countries impacted most by terrorism
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/Mapped-Terror-threat-around-the-world/
The 20 countries impacted most by terrorism
- Iraq - Global Terrorism Index score: 10
- Afghanistan - 9.441
- Nigeria - 9.009
- Syria - 8.621
- Pakistan - 8.4
- Yemen - 7.877
- Somalia - 7.654
- India - 7.534
- Turkey - 7.519
- Libya - 7.256
- Egypt - 7.17
- Philippines - 7.126
- Democratic Republic of the Congo - 6.967
- South Sudan - 6.821
- Cameroon - 6.787
- Thailand - 6.609
- Ukraine - 6.557
- Sudan - 6.453
- Central African Republic - 6.394
- Niger - 6.316
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/Mapped-Terror-threat-around-the-world/
TerryL
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Sorry Mike old son but IN MY OPINION (stressed please note) that post looks EXACTLY like scaremongering despite your penultimate sentence. Others can read it as they will and of course you are entitled to your opinion too.
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I think it’s reasonable to take sensible precautions in ANY foreign country, personally, I think the chances of suffering from a terrorism related event are higher in this country, I would still go to Morocco however, the Government advice is subtly changing
Foreign travel advice
Morocco
Summary
Safety and security
Political situation
Demonstrations and protests can occur at short notice across the country. In general, demonstrations are peaceful but there have been isolated incidents of violence.
A series of demonstrations have taken place since October 2016 in northern Morocco, mainly around the town of Al Hoceima. There have also been a number of smaller scale protests in other cities. More demonstrations are planned, and will generally be heavily policed.
You should follow local and international developments in the media and take sensible security precautions. Avoid political gatherings and demonstrations. Always observe instructions given by the local security authorities.
Crime
Incidents of violent crime occasionally occur. Two foreign nationals were murdered while hiking near Mount Toubkal in December 2018. Moroccan authorities arrested 4 individuals in connection with the murders, including 1 they say had links to “an extremist group”, following the release on social media of a video apparently showing 1 of the murders. There have been recent incidents involving the use of knives against tourists in street attacks, thefts and burglaries in the major cities and along beaches, where you should avoid quiet areas and be vigilant at all times, particularly after dark. Don’t carry large amounts of money or valuables around with you.
Incidents of violent crime occasionally occur. Two foreign nationals were murdered while hiking near Mount Toubkal in December 2018. There have been recent incidents involving the use of knives against tourists in street attacks, thefts and burglaries in the major cities and along beaches, where you should avoid quiet areas and be vigilant at all times, particularly after dark. Don’t carry large amounts of money or valuables around with you.
Petty crime is common, especially in tourist areas like the medina quarter of towns/cities and on beaches. Crimes include pick-pocketing, bag snatching and drive-by motorcycle theft of visible jewellery and handbags. Be vigilant when asking for directions and using ATMs as crime and aggressive begging can occur. Credit card fraud and scams like substituting inferior goods for those that were actually bought are common. You should remain vigilant and alert to potential confidence tricks.
When visiting the medina quarter of a town or city, make sure any guide you use is operating with the agreement of the local tourist authorities, and displays an official badge. Harassment of tourists by people posing as official tourist guides is common.
Women should exercise caution particularly when travelling alone as they could be vulnerable to unwanted attention or harassment.
Exercise caution when travelling to Morocco for a relationship initiated via the internet. There have been incidents of marriage fraud and attempted extortion affecting foreign nationals. When travelling for a first visit, make sure you keep your return ticket, passport and personal belongings safe in case problems arise.
Road travel
Morocco has a poor road safety record. In 2016, 3,593 people were killed and approximately 100,000 injured in traffic accidents. The road fatality rate is approximately 9 times higher than in the UK.
Drive carefully, especially in poor weather conditions, on secondary routes and on mountain roads. Driving at night can be particularly hazardous due to poor lighting. Lorries and trucks may be overloaded and you should take extra care around them. It’s common to encounter pedestrians crossing motorways. You should take extra care when overtaking, particularly where there is no hard shoulder. Leave plenty of time to reach your destination and respect speed limits.
If you’re involved in a road accident, you should complete a ‘Constat Amiable’ form, to be signed by both parties. Blank forms are available on arrival at Tangier port from the insurance company booths and from tobacconists in all cities.
If you’re involved in a road accident resulting in a fatality and the Moroccan authorities consider you responsible, you may be detained pending a trial hearing.
If you enter Morocco with a vehicle, the registration number will be recorded. If you’re not in possession of the same vehicle when leaving Morocco, you’ll be refused exit and detained. You’ll need to provide evidence of adequate motor insurance. You should always carry your insurance, licence and registration documents with you.
Hiking
If you’re planning to hike on Mount Toubkal or on other mountains in Morocco, seek local advice and take necessary precautions, including safe camp arrangements. Trekking or camping alone can be dangerous, consider joining a group or hiring a registered guide. Crime is also a risk: 2 foreign nationals were murdered while hiking near Mount Toubkal in December 2018.
Enjoy and stay safe, especially you Phil, my little munchkin, love to Meena
Foreign travel advice
Morocco
Summary
- Safety and security
Safety and security
Political situation
Demonstrations and protests can occur at short notice across the country. In general, demonstrations are peaceful but there have been isolated incidents of violence.
A series of demonstrations have taken place since October 2016 in northern Morocco, mainly around the town of Al Hoceima. There have also been a number of smaller scale protests in other cities. More demonstrations are planned, and will generally be heavily policed.
You should follow local and international developments in the media and take sensible security precautions. Avoid political gatherings and demonstrations. Always observe instructions given by the local security authorities.
Crime
Incidents of violent crime occasionally occur. Two foreign nationals were murdered while hiking near Mount Toubkal in December 2018. Moroccan authorities arrested 4 individuals in connection with the murders, including 1 they say had links to “an extremist group”, following the release on social media of a video apparently showing 1 of the murders. There have been recent incidents involving the use of knives against tourists in street attacks, thefts and burglaries in the major cities and along beaches, where you should avoid quiet areas and be vigilant at all times, particularly after dark. Don’t carry large amounts of money or valuables around with you.
Incidents of violent crime occasionally occur. Two foreign nationals were murdered while hiking near Mount Toubkal in December 2018. There have been recent incidents involving the use of knives against tourists in street attacks, thefts and burglaries in the major cities and along beaches, where you should avoid quiet areas and be vigilant at all times, particularly after dark. Don’t carry large amounts of money or valuables around with you.
Petty crime is common, especially in tourist areas like the medina quarter of towns/cities and on beaches. Crimes include pick-pocketing, bag snatching and drive-by motorcycle theft of visible jewellery and handbags. Be vigilant when asking for directions and using ATMs as crime and aggressive begging can occur. Credit card fraud and scams like substituting inferior goods for those that were actually bought are common. You should remain vigilant and alert to potential confidence tricks.
When visiting the medina quarter of a town or city, make sure any guide you use is operating with the agreement of the local tourist authorities, and displays an official badge. Harassment of tourists by people posing as official tourist guides is common.
Women should exercise caution particularly when travelling alone as they could be vulnerable to unwanted attention or harassment.
Exercise caution when travelling to Morocco for a relationship initiated via the internet. There have been incidents of marriage fraud and attempted extortion affecting foreign nationals. When travelling for a first visit, make sure you keep your return ticket, passport and personal belongings safe in case problems arise.
Road travel
Morocco has a poor road safety record. In 2016, 3,593 people were killed and approximately 100,000 injured in traffic accidents. The road fatality rate is approximately 9 times higher than in the UK.
Drive carefully, especially in poor weather conditions, on secondary routes and on mountain roads. Driving at night can be particularly hazardous due to poor lighting. Lorries and trucks may be overloaded and you should take extra care around them. It’s common to encounter pedestrians crossing motorways. You should take extra care when overtaking, particularly where there is no hard shoulder. Leave plenty of time to reach your destination and respect speed limits.
If you’re involved in a road accident, you should complete a ‘Constat Amiable’ form, to be signed by both parties. Blank forms are available on arrival at Tangier port from the insurance company booths and from tobacconists in all cities.
If you’re involved in a road accident resulting in a fatality and the Moroccan authorities consider you responsible, you may be detained pending a trial hearing.
If you enter Morocco with a vehicle, the registration number will be recorded. If you’re not in possession of the same vehicle when leaving Morocco, you’ll be refused exit and detained. You’ll need to provide evidence of adequate motor insurance. You should always carry your insurance, licence and registration documents with you.
Hiking
If you’re planning to hike on Mount Toubkal or on other mountains in Morocco, seek local advice and take necessary precautions, including safe camp arrangements. Trekking or camping alone can be dangerous, consider joining a group or hiring a registered guide. Crime is also a risk: 2 foreign nationals were murdered while hiking near Mount Toubkal in December 2018.
Enjoy and stay safe, especially you Phil, my little munchkin, love to Meena
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