I doubt it Martin, I suspect the requirement is that the van MUST be level to deploy the slide. There is of course the twisting moment plus the slide whizzing out or climbing a hill back in!
I would have little doubt that the build quality was there as they have been doing big race trucks for long enough, you are right that they don't give much away on their web site but a visit to the factory would be interesting and I would say essential for anybody even slightly interested in ordering one.
I wasn't going to mention that Jon but even if I had liked the van that might have worried me.
I did wonder and of course it makes sense, I thought about the twist but not the dragging it back uphill.
3 times!! Wow, forget losing a deposit, but waiting 6-9 months for a van to find you ain't got one, makes Martins situation look bliss!
Paul, when you compare the web site to other serious players, both UK and especially German, it is indeed very weak on detail which together with Jon's revelation does add up to some big question marks.
They use HPC Hydraulics - panel with bluetooth for the phone f you want to stand outside, The hydraulics drop the legs and then the slide out (if you want it extended) from the same system. Also Tank setting to tilt for tank emptying although never needed that.
Well that answers 2 questions, hydraulic slide out and interconnected so that's why the legs are compulsory with the slide. Even more of a Bargain if you get legs and a slide for £15k!
Interesting comparisons, as you say difficult to compare exactly although you probably should have selected the 88LB from 2019, which with the slide out becomes 9.19m long and unimaginatively named the 88LB SLO, so comparable to the Elysian, but to be fair only drops the price by €2000. This was the 90LO in 2018. NOW importantly the slide option is no longer available on the Daily chassis due to weight issues.
Interesting comparison but not sure why you have added the extra width to the Palace spec as the RS doesn't have it, the macerator toilet and tank are standard on the Palace range likewise underfloor heating, does the RS have the wide front axle as standard? other details as well but it basically says that it all comes down to the exchange rate with MORELO whereas with RS you know where you are, if you use 1.20 to the £ and the Palace at a more realistic 330k Palace would be £275k.
I think I have been a bit slow here Michael but yes, not sure what the question is though
Hi-Matic and the ZF are the same thing I think?
Interesting- as you say, hard to compare The gear box on mine is the ZF - ie the same one as they put in theRange Rover I think. Anyway, it is a great piece of kit, never feel the gear change, do find it a bit keen on the downhill run to drop a gear.
They changed the chassis considerably on the new `Elysian - in fact it was changing as I got mine hence the full air. The chassis was lengthened and raised - this allows the driver and passenger seats to be on lots and swivels whereas on the old one they just swivelled - not to everyones taste.
Not quite correct - you could get a 200l tank but it would be a special chassis order I guess at extra cost, grey water pump, I had one fitted on my last Elysian - it just isn't on the price list, Windscreen and mirrors are heated. Not sure what you mean by solid surface worktops - ours are certainly solid and weighty items.I think I have been a bit slow here Michael but yes, not sure what the question is though
I did a spec comparison on our van against a RS and get ours at £10k less than RS at 1.18 or basically the same at todays rate but saying that there are still things that we have included that are not available to spec on the RS, for example active air, 200l fuel tank, grey water pump, upgraded stereo/sat nav, heated windscreen and not to mention the solid surface work tops and extra for bar version plus no doubt a few others.
Martin
Same box as MORELO then, we are having a Telma retarder to take away the tendency to drop gears and rev its nuts off, so along with that and big gas tank and big fuel tank and all the other spec like jacks and full air we are 6.3t that is according to the spreadsheet calculation that runs alongside the pricing, the Palace is plated at 7.49t as standard, our 85L would be 5.35t MIRO but before any extras.
I am not sure, however my Liner on the Merc chassis (1230 at 11.99t) at the 9.19 length but with the 2.5 width, full water (450l) and fuel ready to rock, food clothes Mrs etc weights 10.8t. Now added some other stuff so likely 11t now. Essentially the same as the Palace layout wise but even allowing for say a 1ton extra for the chassis build etc it is easy to see how the Daily chassis may struggle. I know of a German (Camille FYI, Martin funflair ) who has just traded his Palace 90LO for a Palace Liner 90LO on the 1230 so exactly as mine for the weight reason.
I wanted to do what the US RVers recommend, weight each corner, then you use the highest weight side on each axle to determine the tyre pressure from the tyre manufacturers chart. However my nearest weighbridge is in a quarry, shit hole does not begin to describe it, so manoeuvring is kept to a minimum all that crap splashing up the sides, or in the dry season a pure dust storm. AND they make you wear a hard hat and hi viz jacket and you don't even get out of the van!I think we have enough weight on ours especially the front axle so no I wouldn't want to add a slide as well although not sure what it weighs.
I just want to get it and put it on the scales now
M
My Mate has corner scales for his race car, don't know what they go up to though as I wouldn't want to squish them.
Yes, we have Corian worktops in ours - I have to say that the kitchen, bathroom and shower fittings are very high standard. We have a table that collapses and slides away into a cupboard in the kitchen. They decided to use the same worktop material for the table top - it weighs a ton!
So that suggests that there are a lot of options that are not on the web siteYes, we have Corian worktops in ours - I have to say that the kitchen, bathroom and shower fittings are very high standard. We have a table that collapses and slides away into a cupboard in the kitchen. They decided to use the same worktop material for the table top - it weighs a ton!
I know they are trying to build as standard as possible because it saves money but you can have pretty much anything you want. Time before last I changed lots of stuff but this time picked from the list and let them keep the layout the same but did choose what garage height I wanted so that bikes would fit.So that suggests that there are a lot of options that are not on the web site
Martin
I like the "rush" leather, a yankee descriptor, in the Charisma, however the Phoenix link is error 404?
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