Michelin Agilis Cross Climate tyres

Is that for the Camping cross climates or the regular cross climates ?
Thats the regular van tyres. Have them fitted on my current MH and had them on the previous one.
 
Thats the regular van tyres. Have them fitted on my current MH and had them on the previous one.
I was quoting Camping tyre prices … I agree Van versions are much cheaper 👍 £219 less 15% at Blackcircles makes them £186 fully fitted



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I was quoting Camping tyre prices … I agree Van versions are much cheaper 👍 £219 less 15% at Blackcircles makes them £186 fully fitted
Thats about the price I paid in November at Costco. Looking at your image, the van tyres have a higher weight loading .

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Here’s a price for Toyos at my tyres.
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The Agilis Crossclimates are superb. They have side wall protection too. The wear quality is amazing. It does not work out more expensive in the long run.
I can not see why you would want the Agilis camping tyre instead. :unsure:
 
Right, I think I've read just about all the tyre threads now 😁 .... the short version as far as I can tell for anyone that needs it is ... This EU body called ETRTO has decided that because a few motorhome owners in the past overloaded their vans, we all need to be treated like kids and cannot be trusted with normal tyres, and we must therefore fit stiff side-walled CP tyres at 80 psi at the rear and 65 psi at the front, irrespective of the horrendous ride quality

I've spoken to Michelin and they just parrot this advice and refuse to consider alternatives whereas Continental are happy to provide lower recommended pressures, that assume you know how to load your van correctly ... and in my mind, that sensible attitude alone deserves my custom going forwards

But before I bin a set of Michelin CP tyres with plenty of tread left, in favour of some Continentals, has anyone tried running their Van Contact Camper (CP rated) at the lower pressures? I know plenty have run the Van tyres (C rated) at lower pressures and been happy.

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Hi Ernesto
Do you mean this tyre, have you seen This Deal 15% off when you buy 4 tyres?
The tyres are quoted at 116 on the original advert, don't know if you need higher rating than that.
LES
That looks like a very good price… and yes, I think that’s Continentals stiffer sidewall camping tyre

As you mention I would need 116 load rating and 75mm ratio so maybe not quite the right size tyre for me. My size come in at £200 a corner. Interesting Kwik fits website lists them (wrongly) as summer tyres though … 🤷‍♂️🫤

 
This thread came about when I was mulling over my tyres in Germany they should only be on for 5years and although mine aren’t worn i Was thinking of replacing with michelin cp the same as before , I hate the harsh ride but I could have crossclimates cp £205 inc vat but they will have the strong sidewalls will this give the same harsh ride?can anyone help.
 
This thread came about when I was mulling over my tyres in Germany they should only be on for 5years and although mine aren’t worn i Was thinking of replacing with michelin cp the same as before , I hate the harsh ride but I could have crossclimates cp £205 inc vat but they will have the strong sidewalls will this give the same harsh ride?can anyone help.
Thats the compromise we all face unfortunately.
CP tyres have stiff sidewalls as our vans are always heavy, and are stored for a long time between trips.
Normal van tyres are not sat in one position for long as they are probably used daily and are loaded/unloaded and will probably wear out well before the 5 year lifetime.
Many Funsters have changed over to normal van tyres and have been much happier with the softer ride they offer due to the not so stiff sidewalls.
How long they will last on a van being stored over a length of time, is a risk that needs weighing up, and only the user can make that choice. This is especially important for those that don't use their vans over the winter, or store them for months of time due to work or other commitments.
No doubt we will hear both good & bad opinions on various tyres, from different people, on different vans, with different load ratings, some are happy with their choice, some have experienced premature cracking on both tread and sidewalls.
Its always a gamble, there is no substitute for experience, preferably your own.(y)
Good luck with your eventual decision.
LES

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Thats the compromise we all face unfortunately.
CP tyres have stiff sidewalls as our vans are always heavy, and are stored for a long time between trips.
Normal van tyres are not sat in one position for long as they are probably used daily and are loaded/unloaded and will probably wear out well before the 5 year lifetime.
Many Funsters have changed over to normal van tyres and have been much happier with the softer ride they offer due to the not so stiff sidewalls.
How long they will last on a van being stored over a length of time, is a risk that needs weighing up, and only the user can make that choice. This is especially important for those that don't use their vans over the winter, or store them for months of time due to work or other commitments.
No doubt we will hear both good & bad opinions on various tyres, from different people, on different vans, with different load ratings, some are happy with their choice, some have experienced premature cracking on both tread and sidewalls.
Its always a gamble, there is no substitute for experience, preferably your own.(y)
Good luck with your eventual decision.
LES
This is all good advice ...the only thing I would add is that there does seem to be a difference between tyre manufacturers. Michelin parrot the EU guidance and resolutely stick to recommending the maximum pressures for their CP tyres (80psi rear).

Continental seem to take a different approach and if you dont plan on overloading your van, they will recommend lower pressures (65psi rear) - which even on a CP rated tyre, must be more comfortable?. And this is important as you should really run tyre pressure as recommended by your tyre manufacturer.

I was hoping someone with Continental CP tyres at the lower pressures could comment on this?
 
This is all good advice ...the only thing I would add is that there does seem to be a difference between tyre manufacturers. Michelin parrot the EU guidance and resolutely stick to recommending the maximum pressures for their CP tyres (80psi rear).

Continental seem to take a different approach and if you dont plan on overloading your van, they will recommend lower pressures (65psi rear) - which even on a CP rated tyre, must be more comfortable?. And this is important as you should really run tyre pressure as recommended by your tyre manufacturer.

I was hoping someone with Continental CP tyres at the lower pressures could comment on this?
Michelin say 80 rear 65 front, I run ours at 62 front 72 rear.
 
has anyone tried running their Van Contact Camper (CP rated) at the lower pressures?
I run ours at 55psi front, 70psi rear.
The strange thing is with Michelin, it looks like the load capacity is achieved at 475KPA which is 69PSI.
If that is the case, why would you need to use 80PSI?

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I run ours at 55psi front, 70psi rear.
The strange thing is with Michelin, it looks like the load capacity is achieved at 475KPA which is 69PSI.
If that is the case, why would you need to use 80PSI?

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I agree .... the only reason I have found, is if you plan on regularly overloading your van. Rather than educate the owners that may make this mistake, Michelin and ETRTO have decided its better to force all customers to inflate to 80psi.

I have emailed ETRTO and asked them to explain this to me ...lets see what they come back with.

So how is the ride at 70/55 on Conti CP tyres?
 
I am somewhat confused about why you are blaming the tyre manufacturers for the recommended pressures. It is the van manufacturer that states tyre pressures for the vehicle depending on size and load. They are the same for all tyre brands. :unsure:

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So how is the ride at 70/55 on Conti CP tyres?
Sorry for the confusion - mine are Michelin set at 55/70 psi.
The ride is better than 65/80, but still hard.
Our previous motorhome had Continental fitted. They were better as you could use them at lower pressures.
 
I am somewhat confused about why you are blaming the tyre manufacturers for the recommended pressures. It is the van manufacturer that states tyre pressures for the vehicle depending on load. They are the same for all tyre brands.
Yes, that is the problem. The manufactures just quote the highest possible pressure even if it isn't required.
Our first motorhome was a small Elddis with a rear lounge. The rear axle was quite lightly loaded (for a motorhome) and when I weighed it the front axle it was actually carrying more weight than the rear. Elddis said 80psi in the rear. A quick visit to the weighbridge and an email to Continental resulted in much lower pressures and the ride was transformed.
 
I am somewhat confused about why you are blaming the tyre manufacturers for the recommended pressures. It is the van manufacturer that states tyre pressures for the vehicle depending on size and load. They are the same for all tyre brands. :unsure:
I maybe wrong about this so very happy to be corrected but its because there are two manufacturers - Fiat and Adria.

I have no recommended pressures in my Fiat handbook as they supplied the base vehicle to Adria without knowing what Adria planned to do with it. Adria fitted the van out, but they dont quote tyre pressures in their manuals either

The only people who seem willing to commit to recommending tyre pressures are (not surprisingly perhaps) the tyre manufacturers. Michelin assume everyone is a numpty and recommend 80psi - which is daft but I'm stuck with until I change brands.....Continental quote 65psi, assuming your rear axle is rated at 2000Kg
 
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