MH TYRES

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I think N&B fit Conti Vanco season tyres.
I would say that for the last 5 years they have been fitting Continental fourseasons, I think there was a time they only fitted these to vans being delivered in the winter months and it might have depended what country they were destined for, I have a feeling that they have now changed brands but can't think who to.

Martin
 
15,000 miles.
fronts at 3mm, rear at 9mm.
I was surprised too.
You must have a light rear end but your front wear is worse than mine, I'm running at around 2000 kg on the front and rear around 2100 kg.

First van we had with Conti campers still had 4 mm on the front at 30,000.

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I'm getting a pair of Michelin crossclimate 225/75/R16 118 C tyres fitted on Saturday you replace the factory Michelin Agilis CP tyres
i am having 4 fitted as we speak. will report back in 5 years to let you know how they performed:D
 
5 years! I'm worrying because mine are only lasting 2 years.:D
That said it's better to be replacing due to tread wear than cracked sidewalls etc

Its why mileage doesn't scare me ....why change parts you've not used cause they are past age limit id rather use them.
 
It's a sad fact, but no longer surprising, that we cannot rely on the expertise and advice from staff in so many types of businesses and have to do our own research. As with many of us no doubt, my career has given me (may I say) expert knowledge on specific things (most of it nerdy and rarely needed) but I'm occasionally horrified when being told a load of guff by the likes of tyre fitting staff and main dealer mechanics,......... sorry, I mean 'motor vehicle technicians'.
 
5 years! I'm worrying because mine are only lasting 2 years.:D
mine should last ages, I cant afford to go anywhere now:D2:D2

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How many miles have you done?
Checked mine at 14000 front 4 mm, rear 4.5mm.

15,000 miles.
fronts at 3mm, rear at 9mm.
I was surprised too.
:eek::eek:, I am just sub 30,000 miles and at the first MOT in Dec 18 I had 3.5mm fronts and 9mm on the rears. Continental 225/75 R 16 CP and running at 75psi all round. Not too sure on axle weights, but total at 3660Kg. Considering they started with 10mm I was pleased with the rears, but disspointed in the fronts (n)- First ever MH, bless me.:rolleyes: So I don't feel too bad now:D2:D2
 
Continentals technical department recommended the VanContact 4Season for us and their Technical Data Book shows several tyres suitable for ‘mobile homes’.
Page 74 onwards
https://blobs.continental-tires.com...998ef8b3/download-technical-databook-data.pdf
Yup did for me but when could not find any instock said vanco fourseason just as good as these were replaced by the newer vancontact 4 season. Only had mine 8 months really must check tread on them soon see how they are looking(y)
 
:eek::eek:, I am just sub 30,000 miles and at the first MOT in Dec 18 I had 3.5mm fronts and 9mm on the rears. Continental 225/75 R 16 CP and running at 75psi all round. Not too sure on axle weights, but total at 3660Kg. Considering they started with 10mm I was pleased with the rears, but disspointed in the fronts (n)- First ever MH, bless me.:rolleyes: So I don't feel too bad now:D2:D2

Very similar to mine on 4250kg but probably at 3800 mostly ....

60psi fronts 70 rear..
 
just to say, first impressions, only a couple of miles driving home from the garage but seems smoother and quieter and steering lighter.
(and for information they were £115 a corner fitted. very reasonable I thought)
 
It's a sad fact, but no longer surprising, that we cannot rely on the expertise and advice from staff in so many types of businesses and have to do our own research. As with many of us no doubt, my career has given me (may I say) expert knowledge on specific things (most of it nerdy and rarely needed) but I'm occasionally horrified when being told a load of guff by the likes of tyre fitting staff and main dealer mechanics,......... sorry, I mean 'motor vehicle technicians'.
In their defence we live in a blame and claim world now, so I guess they tell staff to say stuff that’s extremely safe and have no fear of being sued for. Yes may an item is good for X amount of years if looked after but they probably cut it in half to cover for the people who don’t look after the item properly.
 
just to say, first impressions, only a couple of miles driving home from the garage but seems smoother and quieter and steering lighter.
(and for information they were £115 a corner fitted. very reasonable I thought)
that is a very good price indeed! (is that for 225/75/R16?)
my ones are coming in at £160 each. :(
 
On my last van I maxed up the weight upgrade and there were no Camper tyres with a high enough weight rating so I fitted Continental truck tyres with advice from my lifelong tyre supplier.
 
I am attaching a reply from Continental tyres, regarding tyre pressures.
I had the van weighed fully loaded on each axle. Front 1460 kg, rear 2000 kg (which is right on the axles limit)
The recommended pressure for the front tyres 3.25 Bar seems very low (n) but they are the experts (or are they ?)

Good afternoon Mr. Bennett,

Thank you for your email and I completely understand your concern.

It is extremely likely that the relevant information supplied with the chassis is documented for use as a commercial vehicle, therefore proposed before the conversion to a motor home. For this reason, Continental tyres would always recommend having the motor home weighed on a weigh bridge at your heaviest travelling weight, including liquids to achieve specific axle weights. In some cases the coach builder will also put their recommended pressures on the vehicle plate. However, the majority put this to the maximum inflation pressure of the tyre to cover all loads being applied and not specific loads which often, are not near the plated weight you actually travel at.

The volume and pressure of the inflation medium is what carries the load and if it is not sufficient then the tyre can suffer damage, hence why it is extremely important for the correct loads to be obtained, in order to inflate the tyre correctly.

Experience shows that due to the weight distribution of vehicles in the leisure industry such as motor homes the likelihood of overloading or uneven weight distribution tends to put a greater load on the rear axle rather than on the front axles, where the weight tends to remain more consistent. It is true that when braking occurs the weight transference is to the front, but this only tends to be for short periods, whereas overloading on the rear axle can be present over long periods, when the tyres are rotating at high speed.

This is the main reason that with CP Camper type tyres the inflation pressures at the rear is deliberately set higher. Although this also has a bearing on the contact area when negotiating grassy parking areas and also to the sidewall deflection, which influences the body roll.

The 69 psi written on the side of the tyre is for the Northern American market only and the inflation pressure of the tyre can exceed this value within its safety operating range.

Based on the following:

ContiVanco Camper 215/70 R15 (CP*) 109 R tyres.

Front Axle: 1460 Kg - 3.25 bar/ 47.1 psi (maximum weight for pressure given = 1520 kg)

Rear Axle: (single fitment) 2000 Kg - 5.5 bar/ 79.8 psi (maximum weight for pressure given = 2060 kg)

Rear Axle: (twinned fitment) 2000 Kg - 3.0 bar/ 43.5 psi (maximum weight for pressure given = 2640 kg)


(*CP- Camper) (Single fitment (S) = two wheels per axle, Twinned fitment (T) = four (or more) wheels per axle)

I have included the chart for these specific tyres to help with pressure vs. load if you need to change the weight.

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I hope this helps and any further enquiries (no matter how small) please do not hesitate to ask, we are always happy to help!

B
 
I thought the Conti Vanco camper is a summer tyre and has limited use . I looked into this a few months ago planning a trip through Germany and Norway which require the winter tyres at least on drive tyres ?
 
Don't forget, when comparing EU tyre ratings for Grip, Economy & Noise, it varies for different sizes of the same tyre.

Check the rating for the size that fits you van....
 
I know there is a good argument for putting a new pair of tyres on the rear rather than the front, but on MHs the fronts wear much faster than the rears.

Last year in Spain in a Summer rainstorm I lost traction on just a slight slope.

The front tyres were down to about 3mm, 6mm on the rears - I just changed the fronts for new

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I am attaching a reply from Continental tyres, regarding tyre pressures.
I had the van weighed fully loaded on each axle. Front 1460 kg, rear 2000 kg (which is right on the axles limit)
The recommended pressure for the front tyres 3.25 Bar seems very low (n) but they are the experts (or are they ?)

Good afternoon Mr. Bennett,

Thank you for your email and I completely understand your concern.

It is extremely likely that the relevant information supplied with the chassis is documented for use as a commercial vehicle, therefore proposed before the conversion to a motor home. For this reason, Continental tyres would always recommend having the motor home weighed on a weigh bridge at your heaviest travelling weight, including liquids to achieve specific axle weights. In some cases the coach builder will also put their recommended pressures on the vehicle plate. However, the majority put this to the maximum inflation pressure of the tyre to cover all loads being applied and not specific loads which often, are not near the plated weight you actually travel at.

The volume and pressure of the inflation medium is what carries the load and if it is not sufficient then the tyre can suffer damage, hence why it is extremely important for the correct loads to be obtained, in order to inflate the tyre correctly.

Experience shows that due to the weight distribution of vehicles in the leisure industry such as motor homes the likelihood of overloading or uneven weight distribution tends to put a greater load on the rear axle rather than on the front axles, where the weight tends to remain more consistent. It is true that when braking occurs the weight transference is to the front, but this only tends to be for short periods, whereas overloading on the rear axle can be present over long periods, when the tyres are rotating at high speed.

This is the main reason that with CP Camper type tyres the inflation pressures at the rear is deliberately set higher. Although this also has a bearing on the contact area when negotiating grassy parking areas and also to the sidewall deflection, which influences the body roll.

The 69 psi written on the side of the tyre is for the Northern American market only and the inflation pressure of the tyre can exceed this value within its safety operating range.

Based on the following:

ContiVanco Camper 215/70 R15 (CP*) 109 R tyres.

Front Axle: 1460 Kg - 3.25 bar/ 47.1 psi (maximum weight for pressure given = 1520 kg)

Rear Axle: (single fitment) 2000 Kg - 5.5 bar/ 79.8 psi (maximum weight for pressure given = 2060 kg)

Rear Axle: (twinned fitment) 2000 Kg - 3.0 bar/ 43.5 psi (maximum weight for pressure given = 2640 kg)


(*CP- Camper) (Single fitment (S) = two wheels per axle, Twinned fitment (T) = four (or more) wheels per axle)

I have included the chart for these specific tyres to help with pressure vs. load if you need to change the weight.

View attachment 286827

I hope this helps and any further enquiries (no matter how small) please do not hesitate to ask, we are always happy to help!

B
That's right I had same
Van tyres are lower psi than camper tyres
When I contacted michelin about their campers the told my same psi no matter the axle weight. Strange but true
Lots of peeps on web complaining about bad advice from michelin 're their tyre psi
 
Ours were £165 inc everything, tyre disposal etc etc. For your size.
225 15's mine. strangely were a couple of pounds cheaper than 215's. supply and demand I suppose!
 
on MHs the fronts wear much faster than the rears.

Same as front wheel drive cars I suppose, it may vary for rear and 4 wheel drive.
Sounds like Mechelin are being lazy, Continental sounds rather better advice.
 
Same as front wheel drive cars I suppose, it may vary for rear and 4 wheel drive.

Front wheel drive MHs have most weight on the rear wheels though, so less grip on front wheels to begin with....

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