Mercedes vario 814 self build bus to FLT palace

[Dutch 68]

Perhaps you can explain why one needs to pass another test to drive a manual if one only has a automatic licence but not the other way round?
To me it suggests a greater degree of skill, ability is required to drive the manual. It would also appear the DVSA agree.

Yeah you are super skilled, you can operate a clutch, very few people can, you are missing the point entirely, unless you have a medical condition, most people can get to grips with a gear-lever and clutch within no time at all, it’s just that modern auto boxes are so comfortable in what is today’s ever more congested traffic that when you have experienced a modern car with a sophisticated auto box, you would never go back to a manual gear change, but luckily for the fans, you can still buy them, choice is good, lots of super cars these days are only available with automatic transmission though……

 

[Wendo55]

108 holes per panel x 2 for pilot then 7.5mm ....3 panels done today and another 2 windows out and paint etc removed ...will get the 3rd one prepped tomorrow ...then hopefully get all 3 tacked in monday morning when i can borrow the neighbor again ..View attachment 538360View attachment 538361View attachment 538362


Drilling those holes is one time consuming monotonous job ...but needs must.

OMG does your mum know you've borrowed her Dyson?

 

[gpat]

No need to change them when still working fine. But they are good quality bits and a wee spray of wd40 every so often helps

That's right. If you don't overheat them they'll go for ever. Most people run the drill too fast which doesn't cut well and knackers the bits.

 

[Northernraider]

OMG does your mum know you've borrowed her Dyson?

Ha ha thats my old dyson i keep in mums shed for cleaning the cars etc .. ... she'd have a fit if i used her hoover outside .

 

[tonyidle]

You do realise that formula 1 is done with auto boxes yes?

And every performance car worthy of the description?

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[Jamesh]

Yeah you are super skilled, you can operate a clutch, very few people can, you are missing the point entirely, unless you have a medical condition, most people can get to grips with a gear-lever and clutch within no time at all, it’s just that modern auto boxes are so comfortable in what is today’s ever more congested traffic that when you have experienced a modern car with a sophisticated auto box, you would never go back to a manual gear change, but luckily for the fans, you can still buy them, choice is good, lots of super cars these days are only available with automatic transmission though……

I have both and enjoy both.

Think an auto suits a big car or MH better tbh.

Cheers Jame

 

[tonyidle]

I have both and enjoy both.

Think an auto suits a big car or MH better tbh.

Cheers Jame

DSG suits our Smart - and any other car really.

 

[Jamesh]

And every performance car worthy of the description?

TVR, lotus, xkr, F40, all manual!!!

Ok most new ones are but many older ones were Manual.

Cheers James

 

[tonyidle]

TVR, lotus, xkr, F40, all manual!!!

Ok most new ones are but many older ones were Manual.

Cheers James

Many older of any make were manual .

 

[Northernraider]

DSG suits our Smart - and any other car really.

Loved my dsg box in my passat cc ...any big mercs , bmw etc ive had most have been auto's...
Not so keen on a heavy motorhome being auto though especially with some of the big hill climbs. But then ive not had a fairly new motorhome so they might be a bit better powerwise.

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[Northernraider]

Annnnnywaaay ...this is boring ...even more boring than the holes i have to drill

 

[Dutch 68]

Loved my dsg box in my passat cc ...any big mercs , bmw etc ive had most have been auto's...
Not so keen on a heavy motorhome being auto though especially with some of the big hill climbs. But then ive not had a fairly new motorhome so they might be a bit better powerwise.

Yep the new generation of power trains is great, you can hardly feel the gear changes and they are instant, and very good in recognition of a hill, so it adjusts its behaviour accordingly. On another note, are you thinking of Greece again this winter or are you set to go to turkey via Greece ? Interested in what you would make of Turkey in winter.

 

[tonyidle]

Loved my dsg box in my passat cc ...any big mercs , bmw etc ive had most have been auto's...
Not so keen on a heavy motorhome being auto though especially with some of the big hill climbs. But then ive not had a fairly new motorhome so they might be a bit better powerwise.

Mine is a 5 (I think!) speed auto on 3L Merc. Later versions of the 'box are 7 speed but even with mine it's not necessary to second guess it for hill climbing. I've had everything from 4 speed +OD manual through 3 speed Borg-Warner, robotic manual, and DSG. DSG is brilliant and works with any engine size / power. Torque converter auto probably still better with larger engines / vehicles although with lock-up in the higher gears there is little torque converter loss.

 

[glenn2926]

Not for LGV's these days, full licence granted if test taken in automatic truck but with manual car licence.

So what you’re saying is one must have a manual licence then? I did know this rule but one still needs to prove competence in a manual. Therefore DVSA do realise driving a manual requires greater skill than just an auto.

TVR, lotus, xkr, F40, all manual!!!

Ok most new ones are but many older ones were Manual.

Cheers James

it’s as is mentioned on here now and again, the dumbing down of people. Cars need to be made easier to operate as many cannot drive very well any more.

 

[Badknee]

Annnnnywaaay ...this is boring ...

Correct. Get back to boring and welding Tam you deserve a

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[gus-lopez]

Perhaps you can explain why one needs to pass another test to drive a manual if one only has a automatic licence but not the other way round?
To me it suggests a greater degree of skill, ability is required to drive the manual. It would also appear the DVSA agree.

Yes I'd agree there is far more coordination required driving a manual,+ the ability to do it without even thinking about it whilst concentrating on traffic.

these days if given a choice I¡d have a proper auto ,not an electronic manual.

Not for LGV's these days, full licence granted if test taken in automatic truck but with manual car licence.

I don't know about the car licence but it is similar here. All tests for lorries are autos & you can drive either when you pass.

OMG does your mum know you've borrowed her Dyson?

It was either that or the pillar drill on the kitchen table

 

[mitzimad]

Im using the same 2 bits i started with ...1 3mm and one 7.5mm

that 3mm bit is obviously a world champion

 

[mitzimad]

Yes I'd agree there is far more coordination required driving a manual,+ the ability to do it without even thinking about it whilst concentrating on traffic.

these days if given a choice I¡d have a proper auto ,not an electronic manual.


I don't know about the car licence but it is similar here. All tests for lorries are autos & you can drive either when you pass.

It was either that or the pillar drill on the kitchen table

have you driven a dsg auto they are fabulous and can be driven maually just no clutch mine is paddles or stick in manual

 

[Northernraider]

that 3mm bit is obviously a world champion

I bought a pack of ten but they have some ***tip on them thats very hard wearing...it still goes through like a hot knife in butter...the 7.5mm admittedly is starting to take a bit longer ...i might have to sharpen it

 

[Badknee]

Was it black and decker that did a pillar drill you clamped your drill into? I seem to remember it had to be a B&D drill though

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[Northernraider]

Was it black and decker that did a pillar drill you clamped your drill into? I seem to remember it had to be a B&D drill though

I do miss my toolshed i had in my own house...i actually had 3 sheds one for my motorbikes , one for all my tools and garden stuff and one as a workshop with bench etc ...but here at mums i just have to make do ...its a juggle for storage too ... The bus is full of stuff that ive no idea where im going to put it when i actually start work on the inside. I cant even order my gas tanks water tanks etc yet because nowhere to keep them till i fit them.

 

[Badknee]

I do miss my toolshed i had in my own house...i actually had 3 sheds one for my motorbikes , one for all my tools and garden stuff and one as a workshop with bench etc ...but here at mums i just have to make do ...its a juggle for storage too ... The bus is full of stuff that ive no idea where im going to put it when i actually start work on the inside. I cant even order my gas tanks water tanks etc yet because nowhere to keep them till i fit them.

You need a van to put all the stuff in you need for your van

 

[Lenny HB]

You need a van to put all the stuff in you need for your van

Mummy might throw a wobbly.

 

[Lenny HB]

Haven't heard anything about the caravan lately, how's caravan life Tam?

 

[2657]

So what you’re saying is one must have a manual licence then? I did know this rule but one still needs to prove competence in a manual. Therefore DVSA do realise driving a manual requires greater skill than just an auto.

it’s as is mentioned on here now and again, the dumbing down of people. Cars need to be made easier to operate as many cannot drive very well any more.

There is a slight difference between driving a car with 4 gears to a truck with a minimum of 8 gears, DVSA have decided in their wisdom that the need to manipulate a more complicated gearbox is no longer necessary now that most tractor units are now offered with auto boxes as standard.

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[Northernraider]

Haven't heard anything about the caravan lately, how's caravan life Tam?

Mediocre ...making a bed up each night is a pain but otherwise its ok ..it will do for now but its 90% likely ill be heading to warmer climes start of November...just deciding what van to buy. An older 90's hymer or a panel van type autosleeper type thing.

Plenty around for £10k and under at present but not wasting time viewing till ive got all these windows plated up and the bus watertight ...then ill venture south on a viewing frenzy lol .

Come back end of january ready to get stuck back in .

Caravan will make nice storage here over winter lol

 

[Badknee]

Tam can you not take the cupboard out under the front window and make a transverse bed and leave some seating?

 

[Northernraider]

Tam can you not take the cupboard out under the front window and make a transverse bed and leave some seating?

Probably but to be honest i dont want to mess with it too much .. im hoping to double my money on it come springtime

 

[Northernraider]

When is a bus not a bus




Mad max eat yer heart out

 

[Dutch 68]

Any one? Awful interior,

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