Lost!! car keys.

[eddie]

It is getting painfully simple. The cheapest we have been offered the equipment is sub £1k

Don't have an alarm that operates with the original central locking key/fob
Don't have an alarm that it tied into the vehicle CAN bus system

 

[tonyidle]

That would only work on a modern car if your getting a clone of an existing key. If you want a new (unique) key, it can't be done without programming the car.

Correct - but we were talking about keys by post which would have to be clones.

 

[tonyidle]

It is getting painfully simple. The cheapest we have been offered the equipment is sub £1k

Don't have an alarm that operates with the original central locking key/fob
Don't have an alarm that it tied into the vehicle CAN bus system

Price is no barrier. The theft of one vehicle would more than pay for the equipment.

 

[Deneb]

If you've got the PIN code (which is supplied on a card with non-UK vans) I've got an app on my phone that can do it for less than £50 plus a Bluetooth dongle.

Don't leave the security card in your vehicle. Many Vauxhall owners have also found this out to their cost!

 

[eddie]

Price is no barrier. The theft of one vehicle would more than pay for the equipment.

Price is revalvant, this type of theft used to be rare due to the very high cost of the equipment costing thousands. Now its hundreds and the number of people that have access to the equipment is virtually everyone.

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[Deneb]

Correct - but we were talking about keys by post which would have to be clones.

Well, that confused me

I don't think many professionals would leave their premises, walk to the nearest car park, then watch whilst the customer tries the key.

 

[Deneb]

Price is revalvant, this type of theft used to be rare due to the very high cost of the equipment costing thousands. Now its hundreds and the number of people that have access to the equipment is virtually everyone.

It's opened it up to more scrotes and probably made older, less valuable vehicles at just as much risk. But when £30K kits for Mercs first became available it didn't stop professional thieves buying them. They could still get their money back with one car and nick hundreds

Keyless theft overtook other methods by numbers of vehicles stolen in around 2012 from what I recall.

 

[tonyidle]

Price is revalvant, this type of theft used to be rare due to the very high cost of the equipment costing thousands. Now its hundreds and the number of people that have access to the equipment is virtually everyone.

Still a fair point though. If going after high-end vehicles the first would pay for the equipment needed.

 

[TUCANO]

The OP's options are simpler and cheaper if he deals with them NOW (or bury his head in the sand) rather than waiting until he loses his one-and-only key. Then he's at the mercy of whatever 'professional expert' can provide (god help him) or a low-loader trip to the Jaguar stealership (expensive). This is something a potential buyer will consider if only offered 1 key (sale price)

I've got a 20 year old BMW E46 and I know Timson and the likes would only be able to get me in the drivers door and not start the ignition.

We don't know anything about the OP's Jaguar, is it an older X300 or what. Sometimes the older security systems are better than the new ones.

Thanks gents, it is a 61 plate XF and l am waiting for a reply from the companys MD.

 

[gus-lopez]

I didn't realise how strong my Hull accent is ... it doesn't sound like me at all!

Yes it is worrying when yu hear yourself isn't it ?

My daughter had her car stolen, the insurance would not pay out until she returned both keys. So my advice would be get a new key and have the missing key deleted

What happens if you only bought it with one? My new van only came with one ? admittedly itwas the remote one as that is the only thing that can possibly open the front passenger & side & rear doors as they have no locks. I just had another cut with chip.

I don't think many professionals would leave their premises, walk to the nearest car park, then watch whilst the customer tries the key. It would, however, be better if the customer was near enough to take a faulty key back to have it corrected rather than dealing by post. I suspect though that keys cut by a vehicle key specialist would be unlikely to be faulty.

Bloke I use cuts key then codes a new chip & fits it to the key & instructs you to check it opens door/s & will turn on igntition but under no circumstances attempt to start. Then bring vehicle to front of shop as near as possible/doouble park/ on the pavement ,etc; where he reprogrammes the vehicle & keys. I think it was 62€ the lot for mine.

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[Yorick]

under no circumstances attempt to start.

Then bring vehicle to front of shop as near as possible/doouble park/ on the pavement ,etc; where he reprogrammes the vehicle & keys. I think it was 62€ the lot for mine.

Do you need someone to push it ?

 

[gus-lopez]

Do you need someone to push it ?

No you use the original key to start & move it.

 

[irnbru]

Any news yet Norman?

 

[TUCANO]

The dealers, Campbells of Preston have said, just today, that they are not prepared to debate further because of, "my frankly bizarre and aggressive insistence that they have lost or are somehow responsible for my keys".

What the Hell, cheesed off with this and just about everything else in life at present.

Sandra, thank you for your thoughts, I will keep updating this when something happens

 

[34127]

The dealers, Campbells of Preston have said, just today, that they are not prepared to debate further because of, "my frankly bizarre and aggressive insistence that they have lost or are somehow responsible for my keys".

What the Hell, cheesed off with this and just about everything else in life at present.

Sandra, thank you for your thoughts, I will keep updating this when something happens

We all have tough times in life and I am speaking from current experience. I just try to be positive and remind myself of how fortunate I am compared to others.

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[TUCANO]

I have just e-mailed the guy that Minxy Girl suggested so I live in hope

 

[irnbru]

If I was in the area I'd have gone in. They haven't saw my grizzly teeth

 

[Minxy]

If I was in the area I'd have gone in. They haven't saw my grizzly teeth

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At least you've still GOT some front teeth ... my Tazzy could suck a grape without opening her jaws!

 

[TUCANO]

Update for anyone interested, I am seeing the guy suggested by Minxy Girl on Monday. I pass the place every day going to work so what could be easier, possibly not losing the keys in the first place


Did I say that I would not recommend Campbells of Preston to anyone

 

[tboy]

I have Honda Acord 2007 keys drop out of my pocket then got run over by tractor cutting grass.
thought max £50 no£175 so now only one key

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[GWAYGWAY]

If the keys were in the van, WHY should they assume the right to take them out of it ,and not just leave them where you put them. That is if you DID put them in the van, WHY there? Rack your brains because when I do these thing the offending article turns up somewhere else. The old brain goes 'DING' ah! I remember why I put them there.

 

[TUCANO]

GWAYGWAY I did not leave the keys in the van, I actually gave them to one of the service receptionist, who obviously suffers from short term memory loss

 

[GWAYGWAY]

GWAYGWAY I did not leave the keys in the van, I actually gave them to one of the service receptionist, who obviously suffers from short term memory loss

WHY?????? They were the CAR KEYS, not, the van. probably hs a big J on them.

 

[TUCANO]

GWAYGWAY
When I leave my home to take my van anywhere I need 1 set of front door keys, 1 set of car keys to drive to the van storage site, 1 set of van keys to keep the van running as I use the other set of van keys with the site lock key, that makes 4 sets of keys.
My partner follows in her car after, meeting me at Birch services on the M62, and then at the dealers hands her car keys to me so that we drive back together in her car, she is not too happy to drive the 160 mile round trip via the M62, M60 and M61.
Total of 5 sets of keys. So I drive her car back to the storage site to collect my car, realize that I have left them with the dealer, drive home, collect my keys, drive back to the site to collect my car then we both drive home.

 

[HandyAndy]

No wonder you lost your bloody keys

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[TUCANO]

Correction please, I gave them the keys THEY lost them

 

[Barclaybasher]

Still don't get it.
The keys you handed over, Jag, house, van etc - were they on the same key ring?
If so was it only the Jag key missing?

 

[Beltie]

It must be me, but I'm still unclear about what you were seeking to achieve by giving the keys to the dealer. Why would he want them?

 

[TUCANO]

The car keys were a separate set, l can't stand having lots of keys all on one key ring and can you imagine what would happen if l lost them
Also, as the dealer was going to have the van for a good while, perhaps not so good, l gave the receptionist both sets of van keys as l thought that at least l would know where they were

 

[TUCANO]

Did l say that l would not recommend Campbells of Preston to anyone

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