Lenny's Modding the new Gin Palace

Whilst on the subject Lenny, have you any wee trips planned?
 
Whilst on the subject Lenny, have you any wee trips planned?
Ferry on Monday, Campirama Tuesday for damp check & a few minor warranty bits. Then having a troll round France only got 4 weeks on this trip. Enjoyed following the Muse to its source, thats when we met you last year. So thinking of following the Mosel through France to its source.
 
If you like following rivers to their source try Le Fleuve La Veules should keep you busy for half an hour or so.
 
Sounds nice, probably do our Campirama trip end of August.. we have grass that needs cutting regular and weeds to sort, if you're back by first weekend of August plenty of parking for our NGS open garden for charity. Have fun.

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Fitted a MiFi Huawei E5577 and an external MIMO aerial went for the Poynting MIMO 1-01 the same as John @DBK fitted, on the pricey side but as John says it the only one that gives you full info on it and it's used a lot on buses, coaches & trains. Also the company are very helpful.

MIMO on the roof, I took off the self adhesive foam pad then fitted it direct to the roof with Sika.

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Fitted the MiFi in the cupboard with my Sat controller, had to move the Sat controller down as I wanted to keep the aerial cables as short as possible on the MiFi as the small cables & high frequencies you get losses of 0.8 db per metre. One annoying thing about the aerial is the cables on it are only 300mm which come out of the centre of the unit and terminate in SMA connectors, the MiFi uses TS9 connectors. Longest leads I could find with in TS9 to SMA was 300mm, so I ended up using a 200mm SMA to TS9 and a 300mm SMA to SMA not ideal as more connectors = more signal loss.

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And before anyone comments on the white power cable, I didn't have a 2m one that I needed to run down to one of my USB power outlets and Poundland only had 2m ones in white. :)

Ran a few tests before installing, my house gets a very good 4G signal so had a play by a window did a few speed tests and the average was:
Without Aerial Download 50Mb/s, Upload 11Mb/s
With Aerial Download 50Mb/s, Upload 29Mb/s

Then went down to my daughters a few 100 yds down the road where it is a signal black spot.
Without Aerial Download 8Mb/s, Upload 2Mb/s
With Aerial (outside on window sill) Download 15Mb/s, Upload 7Mb/s

Now with it fitted on the van tested with door closed.
Without Aerial Download 24Mb/s, Upload 13Mb/s
With Aerial Download 40Mb/s, Upload 37Mb/s

Those figures were yesterday, today it was a bit slower but I suppose it depends on how busy the network is. What was noticeable when I compared it to my phone, phone speeds (phone inside the van) were about half of the MiFi with aerial and they are both on the same network.

The actual speeds are a bit arbitrary as the speed can vary anything from 8 Mb/s to 50Mb/s throughout the day, the with and without aerial results were taken within a few minutes of each other and it's the difference between those that count.
 
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Your figures are similar to what I've found. Where I think the aerial really comes into its own is when you are are in a remote spot and it can get a signal which the MiFi couldn't on its own.
For most users any signal over a few megabits per second is probably useable but if your MiFi can't pick up any signal at all this aerial seems to do the job.
I like your idea of removing the self-adhesive from the the bottom of the unit and using Sikaflex. I didn't but it was a nervous moment before I fitted it as I knew if I got it wrong it would be a major pain. The adhesive is very sticky. :)
 
Your figures are similar to what I've found. Where I think the aerial really comes into its own is when you are are in a remote spot and it can get a signal which the MiFi couldn't on its own.
For most users any signal over a few megabits per second is probably useable but if your MiFi can't pick up any signal at all this aerial seems to do the job.
I like your idea of removing the self-adhesive from the the bottom of the unit and using Sikaflex. I didn't but it was a nervous moment before I fitted it as I knew if I got it wrong it would be a major pain. The adhesive is very sticky. :)
Having a coachbuilt I didn't think the sticky pad a very good option as I couldn't use the fixing nut.
 
Fitted a MiFi Huawei E5577 and an external MIMO aerial went for the Poynting MIMO 1-01 the same as John @DBK fitted, on the pricey side but as John says it the only one that gives you full info on it and it's used a lot on buses, coaches & trains. Also the company are very helpful.

MIMO on the roof, I took off the self adhesive foam pad then fitted it direct to the roof with Sika.

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Fitted the MiFi in the cupboard with my Sat controller, had to move the Sat controller down as I wanted to keep the aerial cables as short as possible on the MiFi as the small cables & high frequencies you get losses of 0.8 db per metre. One annoying thing about the aerial is the cables on it are only 300mm which come out of the centre of the unit and terminate in SMA connectors, the MiFi uses TS9 connectors. Longest leads I could find with in TS9 to SMA was 300mm, so I ended up using a 200mm SMA to TS9 and a 300mm SMA to SMA not ideal as more connectors = more signal loss.

View attachment 245409

And before anyone comments on the white power cable, I didn't have a 2m one that I needed to run down to one of my USB power outlets and Poundland only had 2m ones in white. :)

Ran a few tests before installing, my house gets a very good 4G signal so had a play by a window did a few speed tests and the average was:
Without Aerial Download 50Mb/s, Upload 11Mb/s
With Aerial Download 50Mb/s, Upload 29Mb/s

Then went down to my daughters a few 100 yds down the road where it is a signal black spot.
Without Aerial Download 8Mb/s, Upload 2Mb/s
With Aerial (outside on window sill) Download 15Mb/s, Upload 7Mb/s

Now with it fitted on the van tested with door closed.
Without Aerial Download 24Mb/s, Upload 13Mb/s
With Aerial Download 40Mb/s, Upload 37Mb/s

Those figures were yesterday, today it was a bit slower but I suppose it depends on how busy the network is. What was noticeable when I compared it to my phone, phone speeds (phone inside the van) were about half of the MiFi with aerial and they are both on the same network.

The actual speeds are a bit arbitrary as the speed can vary anything from 8 Mb/s to 50Mb/s throughout the day, the with and without aerial results were taken within a few minutes of each other and it's the difference between those that count.

Lenny, you're a very clever chappy but the only thing I managed to understand from your tech-jargon is that you've successfully stuck a 'thingy' on the roof :D
 
Lenny, you're a very clever chappy but the only thing I managed to understand from your tech-jargon is that you've successfully stuck a 'thingy' on the roof :D
Not just any thingy a big black expensive thingy.:rofl:

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My only question is, errrrrrrrrrrrrr, do they come in white.

How much for a thingy, Lenny
:dance2:
Nope only black if there had been a choice I would have had black, most stuff in white always goes yellow as proper UV resistant plastics are expensive.
Cost £125 plus £25 for the cables, paid another £60 for the MiFi.
 
Good test for the aerial tonight.
Had full strength phone signal and fast 4G all weekend until tonight, now no phone signal and no data at all. Can only assume with the lovely weather a cell has gone down.

Fired up the MiFi got 4G at 6mb/s download and 0.6 upload, both phone and MiFi on the same network (EE).

Well chuffed.
 
Just to clarify, you put a new hole through the roof for this? The first pic shows a cable gland - but I guess that may be your sat dish.
How did you seal from the bottom. Been looking at the Motorhome Wifi 4g antenna - I like the long threaded extension and backing plate that effectively sandwiches (and seals) the roof between the antenna and the plate.
 
Just to clarify, you put a new hole through the roof for this? The first pic shows a cable gland - but I guess that may be your sat dish.
How did you seal from the bottom. Been looking at the Motorhome Wifi 4g antenna - I like the long threaded extension and backing plate that effectively sandwiches (and seals) the roof between the antenna and the plate.

I have the Motorhome WIFI one and its been great

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Just to clarify, you put a new hole through the roof for this? The first pic shows a cable gland - but I guess that may be your sat dish.
How did you seal from the bottom. Been looking at the Motorhome Wifi 4g antenna - I like the long threaded extension and backing plate that effectively sandwiches (and seals) the roof between the antenna and the plate.
Yep that was the sat dish cables.
The Mimo the cables come out of a central gland, not long enough to go through a CB roof, I cut a 20mm hole removed the adhesive pad and fixed to the roof with Sika. The Poynting aerial has a bit higher gain than the Motorhome wifi one and a bit cheaper also they publish full tecnical info on the unit, info here, can't find that with any other aerial. Also comany very helpful, emailed them with a quiery late Friday afternoon received a reply from one of the Directors Friday evening.

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Yes, I had a look at the datasheet. The M/Home wifi one is a rebranded panorama - data sheet for that is here Frankly, not sure what I'm looking for, and may just take the slightly easier option!
 
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Yes, I had a look at the datasheet. The M/Home wifi one is a rebranded panorama - data sheet for that is here Frankly, not sure what I'm looking for, and may just take the slightly easier option!
They both manage to present their data in different terminology to make it difficult to compare but they look similar in performance although the Poynting has a bit more gain. The drawings on both data sheets show aerials with all options the 4G versions only have 2 cables.
As for fitting they look identical, so assuming your Hymer is not a PVC you will have to fit either of them the same way I did.
 
@Lenny HB whats the best way to use the fantastic vent please? The instructions do6nt give a lot away. Lol
 
@Lenny HB whats the best way to use the fantastic vent please? The instructions do6nt give a lot away. Lol
We find we get best results by having it extracting then the windows & rooflight on the area we want to cool on vent setting, sometimes I fully open the roof vent. We find this way we get a nice cool breeze flowing across the beds. I set the temerature a couple of marks up from where the fan cuts out.
Not been warm enough to use at night in this van but in the last van when we had late evening temps of 32° in Greece with the temerature set like that the fan would cut out about 2 am when the temp was down below 26-28°.
Rarely use it above the first speed except just after entering the van.

If we have our daughters dog in the van, if we set it to blowing in the dog loves sitting under it.

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Dear Lenny,

At Poynting Antennas we are very happy and proud to see such nicely mounted antennas. We are glad to see that the performance of the antenna is good.
As there are so many factors influencing the up and download speed you see as a result of the total system it can be quite dangerours comparing the results between the systems setup.
I am sure you will experience that over time the MIMO-1 antenna will perform super and give you a stable and reliable internet connection. Depending on teh network you will receive better or worse down and upload speeds.
A stable and reliable connection mean that your router will less often need to negotiate with the network, therefore improve throughput and lead to less frustration waiting for your connection.

At Poynting we would be happy to share your experiences with interested people. Please let me know if this is an option.

Kind regards,

Tjeerd


Fitted a MiFi Huawei E5577 and an external MIMO aerial went for the Poynting MIMO 1-01 the same as John @DBK fitted, on the pricey side but as John says it the only one that gives you full info on it and it's used a lot on buses, coaches & trains. Also the company are very helpful.

MIMO on the roof, I took off the self adhesive foam pad then fitted it direct to the roof with Sika.

View attachment 245408

Fitted the MiFi in the cupboard with my Sat controller, had to move the Sat controller down as I wanted to keep the aerial cables as short as possible on the MiFi as the small cables & high frequencies you get losses of 0.8 db per metre. One annoying thing about the aerial is the cables on it are only 300mm which come out of the centre of the unit and terminate in SMA connectors, the MiFi uses TS9 connectors. Longest leads I could find with in TS9 to SMA was 300mm, so I ended up using a 200mm SMA to TS9 and a 300mm SMA to SMA not ideal as more connectors = more signal loss.

View attachment 245409

And before anyone comments on the white power cable, I didn't have a 2m one that I needed to run down to one of my USB power outlets and Poundland only had 2m ones in white. :)

Ran a few tests before installing, my house gets a very good 4G signal so had a play by a window did a few speed tests and the average was:
Without Aerial Download 50Mb/s, Upload 11Mb/s
With Aerial Download 50Mb/s, Upload 29Mb/s

Then went down to my daughters a few 100 yds down the road where it is a signal black spot.
Without Aerial Download 8Mb/s, Upload 2Mb/s
With Aerial (outside on window sill) Download 15Mb/s, Upload 7Mb/s

Now with it fitted on the van tested with door closed.
Without Aerial Download 24Mb/s, Upload 13Mb/s
With Aerial Download 40Mb/s, Upload 37Mb/s

Those figures were yesterday, today it was a bit slower but I suppose it depends on how busy the network is. What was noticeable when I compared it to my phone, phone speeds (phone inside the van) were about half of the MiFi with aerial and they are both on the same network.

The actual speeds are a bit arbitrary as the speed can vary anything from 8 Mb/s to 50Mb/s throughout the day, the with and without aerial results were taken within a few minutes of each other and it's the difference between those that count.
 
MIMO on the roof, I took off the self adhesive foam pad then fitted it direct to the roof with Sika.
Hi, @Lenny HB I've decided to go with the M/home Wifi aerial (now I have permission to drill the roof!!). Which type of Sikflex do you use - as you know the m/home Wifi one has an adhesive pad, but it was recommended to seal the outside edge with Sikaflex.
 
Hi, @Lenny HB I've decided to go with the M/home Wifi aerial (now I have permission to drill the roof!!). Which type of Sikflex do you use - as you know the m/home Wifi one has an adhesive pad, but it was recommended to seal the outside edge with Sikaflex.
I used the Poynting aerial I removed the sticky pad and zig zaged Sika across the base and around the edge. I used i291 which I had left over from fitting a solar panel 6 months previous. Any decent PU adhesive should be ok
 
Hi, @Lenny HB I've decided to go with the M/home Wifi aerial (now I have permission to drill the roof!!). Which type of Sikflex do you use - as you know the m/home Wifi one has an adhesive pad, but it was recommended to seal the outside edge with Sikaflex.

The self adhesive sealing pad on the Motorhome Wifi antenna is a closed cell neoprene type and Motorhome Wifi state on their website "Once the antenna is fitted, there is no need for any additional sikaflex or adhesive sealant. The product is totally self sealing."

Mines been up on the roof without sealing around the edge of 7 or 8 months now and has had some severe lashings of rain and hail and it has stayed totally watertight.

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Motorhome Wifi state on their website "Once the antenna is fitted, there is no need for any additional sikaflex or adhesive sealant. The product is totally self sealing."
Thanks @Two on Tour I've read that, but when I spoke to @Addie at Lincoln when I bought it he said that I had the option of running a bead of sikaflex round the perimeter to ensure it seals. As Mrs Sportsnapper is a bit paranoid about putting a hole in the roof, a belt and braces solution that is relatively simple to achieve seems to be the way to go.
 
Thanks @Two on Tour I've read that, but when I spoke to @Addie at Lincoln when I bought it he said that I had the option of running a bead of sikaflex round the perimeter to ensure it seals. As Mrs Sportsnapper is a bit paranoid about putting a hole in the roof, a belt and braces solution that is relatively simple to achieve seems to be the way to go.

I quite understand, a small bead of sikaflex or an ear bashing, yup I'm with you on that one.
 
The self adhesive sealing pad on the Motorhome Wifi antenna is a closed cell neoprene type and Motorhome Wifi state on their website "Once the antenna is fitted, there is no need for any additional sikaflex or adhesive sealant. The product is totally self sealing."

Mines been up on the roof without sealing around the edge of 7 or 8 months now and has had some severe lashings of rain and hail and it has stayed totally watertight.
I didn't fit a Motorhome WiFi one and with a 20mm hole through the roof not taking any chances.
 

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