Just had van weighed

[Andy1954]

We have a Burstner Brevio T640
Just been to weigh bridge and came in at 3450kg fully laden eg full water tank full fuel tank clothes food, us two and our dog.

That gives me 50 kg, I’m 70 this summer so I’m thinking no need to keep my C1. Good decision ?

 

[DDJC]

A lot of this debate may become redundant if the Government has the cojones to re-introduce the pre-1997 driving licence categories that the then Government took away in order to brownnose an economic bloc that we had joined.

 

[wp1234]

I lost my C1 entitlement when I exchanged my UK licence for a French one as being a French Resident. Not only did I have 'Grandfather' rights as having taken a UK driving test licence at the right time to qualify for one, I also had a MoD (Ministry of Defence) driving test qualification for driving heavy vehicles which was then converted to a UK civilian licence.

It didn't do me any good when trying to argue my case, latterly, with the French authorities. Should have moved to Poland instead, but it's too cold and the language has too many zzzz's in it .

Stuck with sub 3,500kg.

Living inFrance vs C1 …… hard choice

 

[kingspeed]

No I’m not, actually I work in a quarry and sometimes I have to man the weighbridge so I’m familiar with weights and measures of trucks in and out, but truckers talk don’t they
I usually weigh the moho there a few times a year, that’s how I know when I have “EVERYTHING” inc 350 scooter on board and full fluids I’m 70kg over on the rear axle, but I can drop water if I need to
Ps love the transcontinental on your avatar

Hello, That transcontinental was an amazing truck. The firm I drove for back then was Unispeed. It was basically Birds Eye who's parent company was Unilever. Sadly we all got made redundant in 1986. I bought that very truck and started out as an owner driver. I never had a clue what to expect. It was the fastest education I ever had. It took from the end of September 1986 to mid December 1986 to find I had absolutely no money left (all my redundancy money gone)
The truck was brilliant. I kept it a total of 81/2 years, right up to the day I could afford my first brand new truck.
The most we ever had was 10. Through the year we were in business we had Daf, Volvo, Scania and Renault magnums which I loved. We did most all the UK, a fair bit of the EU and a lot of Swiss.
That was when I could take the kids (one at a time) to Switzerland in the school holidays. I used to take my dear wife to Swiss in the school holidays as well. How I wish I could go back in time.
Regards,
Trevor.

 

[Peregrinator]

Nah, they only state that they have 50Kg, you have to assume that they are referring to their vans plated weight as being 3500Kg. Best to be sure....

Cheers
Red.

He said the van came in at 3450kg, gives him 50Kg to play with. Do your sums.

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[Soycd]

A lot of this debate may become redundant if the Government has the cojones to re-introduce the pre-1997 driving licence categories that the then Government took away in order to brownnose an economic bloc that we had joined.

Personally, I'm not sure how wise it would be to let someone aged 17, hurtle around in a 7500kg truck, with no specialist training at all. We don't even insist on motorway training for driving a car, let alone a truck. The linked article explains what you have to do to get a C1 in Germany and it's a real challenge, and needs to be repeated at 5 year intervals. Now I'm lucky and got a C1 back in the day, however, I'm not convinced that dishing C1 out to every 'boy racer' at the age of 17 is such a good idea, but then others will disagree.

Driving licence class C1

In this article you will find important information about the C1 truck driver's license

www.fahrschule-123.de

 

[WESTY66]

Personally, I'm not sure how wise it would be to let someone aged 17, hurtle around in a 7500kg truck, with no specialist training at all. We don't even insist on motorway training for driving a car, let alone a truck. The linked article explains what you have to do to get a C1 in Germany and it's a real challenge, and needs to be repeated at 5 year intervals. Now I'm lucky and got a C1 back in the day, however, I'm not convinced that dishing C1 out to every 'boy racer' at the age of 17 is such a good idea, but then others will disagree.

Driving licence class C1

In this article you will find important information about the C1 truck driver's license

www.fahrschule-123.de

No boy racers when you were young then??
Plenty back in my day and yes I was ok with a 7.5t truck driving round Sheffield at 17yr 8 months!
Moved on a bit now, sometimes they let me loose in the 60ton dumptruck

 

[Soycd]

No boy racers when you were young then??
Plenty back in my day and yes I was ok with a 7.5t truck driving round Sheffield at 17yr 8 months!
Moved on a bit now, sometimes they let me loose in the 60ton dumptruck

You make a valid point. However, there are many thousands upon thousands of more people/vehicles on the road now than back then. As I said others may disagree with my point. Whilst you may have been a sensible driver, it’s the plonkers you need to take into account.

 

[DDJC]

Personally, I'm not sure how wise it would be to let someone aged 17, hurtle around in a 7500kg truck, with no specialist training at all. We don't even insist on motorway training for driving a car, let alone a truck. The linked article explains what you have to do to get a C1 in Germany and it's a real challenge, and needs to be repeated at 5 year intervals. Now I'm lucky and got a C1 back in the day, however, I'm not convinced that dishing C1 out to every 'boy racer' at the age of 17 is such a good idea, but then others will disagree.

Driving licence class C1

In this article you will find important information about the C1 truck driver's license

www.fahrschule-123.de

Actually Soycd, my response to the consultation was not as binary as that!
I suggested that there should be a 21 age limit, and you need to have two years driving experience. I seem to remember also saying that if you are driving >3500kg for work then you need to do the Driver Certificate of Professional Competence as now. That leaves >3500kg leisure drivers in the clear.

Another option could be to increase the B category to 5000kg, or something.

 

[Soycd]

Actually Soycd, my response to the consultation was not as binary as that!
I suggested that there should be a 21 age limit, and you need to have two years driving experience. I seem to remember also saying that if you are driving >3500kg for work then you need to do the Driver Certificate of Professional Competence as now. That leaves >3500kg leisure drivers in the clear.

Another option could be to increase the B category to 5000kg, or something.

I was responding to the comment you made in #91. I hadn't realised you'd made comments to the consultation. Indeed, as you suggest above, it would be reckless to let every new driver drive an (up to) 7500kg vehicle without further training.

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[DDJC]

I was responding to the comment you made in #91. I hadn't realised you'd made comments to the consultation. Indeed, as you suggest above, it would be reckless to let every new driver drive an (up to) 7500kg vehicle without further training.

Yes mate, I know!

 

[mitzimad]

Personally, I'm not sure how wise it would be to let someone aged 17, hurtle around in a 7500kg truck, with no specialist training at all. We don't even insist on motorway training for driving a car, let alone a truck. The linked article explains what you have to do to get a C1 in Germany and it's a real challenge, and needs to be repeated at 5 year intervals. Now I'm lucky and got a C1 back in the day, however, I'm not convinced that dishing C1 out to every 'boy racer' at the age of 17 is such a good idea, but then others will disagree.

Driving licence class C1

In this article you will find important information about the C1 truck driver's license

www.fahrschule-123.de

pased my test in a maxi bought a 7.5ton lorry the next day