Just had van weighed

Andy1954

Andy1954

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We have a Burstner Brevio T640
Just been to weigh bridge and came in at 3450kg fully laden eg full water tank full fuel tank clothes food, us two and our dog.

That gives me 50 kg, I’m 70 this summer so I’m thinking no need to keep my C1. Good decision ?
 
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gus-lopez said:
Yes, correct

They have to take a test the same as here in spain.

Same as spain did but Portugal doesn't.
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And Charente16 could therefore have taken said test and kept both his c1 and mod license grading!

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Masman said:
Tell me if i have got this right.£60 for medical to keep grandfather's rights.Tax £165.But if you are 3500kg the vehicle tax is a lot more.
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VED over etppkg is £165 and has been that for around 20 years or more.

3500 kg and under £325 at the moment I think and it goes up every year.
 
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1967bowesj said:
And Charente16 could therefore have taken said test and kept both his c1 and mod license grading!
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No it isn't a test to "retain" your C1or MOD classes but complete theory & practical tests starting from scratch, complete with medical required every 90 days until you pass along with additional increasing amounts of lessons every time you fail.
 
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No problem regaining my C1, it's been 'missing' for five years but the new van will be over 3500Kg so it was necessary.

D2 & D4 needed, D4 completed and signed off by D4drivers after a very simple medical, driving licence very quickly returned by the DVLA despite a second round trip by post to Swansea because I forgot to sign it correctly!

Andy1954 go get it done then you will have the flexibility be to drive worry free if you can get the van up-plated Van Weight Engineering will be doing the paperwork for mine.
 
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nicholsong said:
Is that normal in France or did you just encounter a person on a Monday morning with a bad hangover?

Please what are others experience?

I wonder what is the rule when changing from another EU licence in a country where there are no grandfather rights, e.g. here in Poland. How would they know I had not taken a test? Poland just said we 'give you anything already on your UK licence.'
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When i swapped my licence in 2007 it was under the old Prefecture/Departmental licence system which meant lots of variation in decision making, nowadays it is all centralised at Nantes. No 'Grandfather Rights' in France and, therefore, a test is required, or 'proof of having passed one', my test date was back in 1965/66 and the only information DVLA would provide was Confirmation that my licence was current which was not sufficient

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As Lenny HB said the French don't bother with such petty details as weight limits, you go and buy a 3.5k van and load it to the gunnals. The reason we have so many vehicle checks during the summer.You are also supposed to have a separate test here to pull a caravan or tandem wheeled trailer..
 
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No-one has mentioned the primary restriction that comes with being over 3500Kg. and that is the inability to drive down certain roads or access certain parking areas. This seems particularly widespread in France and I wonder if that is the primary reason that so many French vans are ostensibly running at 3500Kg.
 
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cyberyacht said:
No-one has mentioned the primary restriction that comes with being over 3500Kg. and that is the inability to drive down certain roads or access certain parking areas. This seems particularly widespread in France and I wonder if that is the primary reason that so many French vans are ostensibly running at 3500Kg.
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I think it will have more to do with not having our grandfather rights.
 
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cyberyacht said:
No-one has mentioned the primary restriction that comes with being over 3500Kg. and that is the inability to drive down certain roads or access certain parking areas. This seems particularly widespread in France and I wonder if that is the primary reason that so many French vans are ostensibly running at 3500Kg.
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I've mentioned it a few times, on a few threads, and I think the advantages of remaining below 3.5 tonnes are significant, but it's very much a minority view!

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cyberyacht said:
No-one has mentioned the primary restriction that comes with being over 3500Kg. and that is the inability to drive down certain roads or access certain parking areas. This seems particularly widespread in France and I wonder if that is the primary reason that so many French vans are ostensibly running at 3500Kg.
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The 3.5t limit is taken to mean "except for access", so it's not a problem.
 
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The cost of taking the necessary lesssons with a registered HGV driving school, test and medicals fees would be in excesss 4,000euro, I think I will pass on that. Normally drivers are sponsored by their employers.
 
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1967bowesj said:
And Charente16 could therefore have taken said test and kept both his c1 and mod license grading!
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The cost of taking the necessary lesssons with a registered HGV driving school, test and medicals fees would be in excesss 4,000euro, I think I will pass on that. Normally drivers are sponsored by their employers.
 
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cyberyacht said:
No-one has mentioned the primary restriction that comes with being over 3500Kg. and that is the inability to drive down certain roads or access certain parking areas. This seems particularly widespread in France and I wonder if that is the primary reason that so many French vans are ostensibly running at 3500Kg.
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PaulW2 said:
I've mentioned it a few times, on a few threads, and I think the advantages of remaining below 3.5 tonnes are significant, but it's very much a minority view!
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But, in many instances, the weight restrictions apply only to lorries/commercial traffic. There are two different signs to indicate if it applies only to commercial traffic or to all traffic.

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Charente16 said:
The cost of taking the necessary lesssons with a registered HGV driving school, test and medicals fees would be in excesss 4,000euro, I think I will pass on that. Normally drivers are sponsored by their employers.
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Did you not retain British citizenship so joint, that’s like they don’t recognise any other entitlements from non French agencies.

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My VW T4 Compass.....
Weighed with one person, full water, gas and diesel, plus food and clothing for 3 weeks away.

MAM 2800kg
Weighbridge 2505kg

(I previously toured by motorbike with a tent ;) ).

RH side.jpg
 
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Charente16 said:
The cost of taking the necessary lesssons with a registered HGV driving school, test and medicals fees would be in excesss 4,000euro, I think I will pass on that. Normally drivers are sponsored by their employers.
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Then it would be cheaper to do the course and test in UK and present the pass certificate.
 
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How would your insurance company react to a sizeable claim if you were over weight ......and not in possession of a C1 licence?
 
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bigtwin said:
But, in many instances, the weight restrictions apply only to lorries/commercial traffic. There are two different signs to indicate if it applies only to commercial traffic or to all traffic.
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As already said in France there are many 3.5T restrictions and they don''t have the image of a truck.
If you were involved in a RTC in a restricted zone - the police or insurance might have something to say as over 3.5t in France you would (should) have Angles Mort stickers displayed.
 
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I agree.....
But what about in UK?
If your van plated at 3.5t But obviously overweight as described in previous threads/quotes ....and no C1 licence ....wouldn't the insurance try to worm out of paying?

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Gav61 said:
I agree.....
But what about in UK?
If your van plated at 3.5t But obviously overweight as described in previous threads/quotes ....and no C1 licence ....wouldn't the insurance try to worm out of paying?
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Unlikely to weigh the van at the time of any incident but if police were involved, or not, would know the exact place.
 
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Yep......I'm sensing from all the threads that many people, once loaded up, are going over the 3.5t .......
It's causing all sorts of mischief and dilemmas.....and extra expense.
There doesn't seem that there is a clear and agreeable position:eek::unsure:
 
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Gav61 said:
Yep......I'm sensing from all the threads that many people, once loaded up, are going over the 3.5t .......
It's causing all sorts of mischief and dilemmas.....and extra expense.
There doesn't seem that there is a clear and agreeable position:eek::unsure:
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Conversely it seems those over 3.5t are blase about using restricted areas.....
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..tongue in cheek
 
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Gav61 said:
Yep......I'm sensing from all the threads that many people, once loaded up, are going over the 3.5t .......
It's causing all sorts of mischief and dilemmas.....and extra expense.
There doesn't seem that there is a clear and agreeable position:eek::unsure:
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It’s crystal clear! Buy a motorhome, go to a weighbridge, if overloaded either up plate or change motorhomes, it really is that simple!
The 5% over is a myth and depends on vosa at the time, I know a driver who was done for 44,120 kgs
There is NO excuse for being overloaded👍
 
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Barclaybasher said:
As already said in France there are many 3.5T restrictions and they don''t have the image of a truck.
If you were involved in a RTC in a restricted zone - the police or insurance might have something to say as over 3.5t in France you would (should) have Angles Mort stickers displayed.
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I found it a bit awkward driving around parts of rural France in a heavier van.

In one case, courtesy of a friend's intervention, I even had a letter of permission from the Mairie to park next to the lake at the local nature reserve/recreation area, to discover that access to that had a 3.5 t limit. Got away with that one - my obvious response would have been to flash my letter and phone a friend. From memory I encountered the restrictions pretty frequently in rural areas where I didn't have such a plausible defence.

Obviously quite a lot of people in heavier vans do get away with it, or don't abide by the heavier vehicle speed limits, or don't use the angle morts signs and travel around like Bonnie and Clyde :giggle: . Hell's Grannies. But I suspect that if something did happen they may have a tougher time of it than the guy in a 3,500 kg plated vehicle that happened inadvertently to be about 200kg overweight.
 
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