Just had van weighed

Andy1954

Andy1954

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We have a Burstner Brevio T640
Just been to weigh bridge and came in at 3450kg fully laden eg full water tank full fuel tank clothes food, us two and our dog.

That gives me 50 kg, I’m 70 this summer so I’m thinking no need to keep my C1. Good decision ?
 
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Andy1954 said:
We have a Burstner Brevio T640
Just been to weigh bridge and came in at 3450kg fully laden eg full water tank full fuel tank clothes food, us two and our dog.

That gives me 50 kg, I’m 70 this summer so I’m thinking no need to keep my C1. Good decision ?
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Based on my own recent experiences at the weighbridge which are documented elsewhere on here, I would be keeping the C1 as it might be needed for a future van.

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RedFrame said:
Nah, they only state that they have 50Kg, you have to assume that they are referring to their vans plated weight as being 3500Kg. Best to be sure....

Cheers
Red.
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Then why state their weight is 3450kg leaving 50kg spare if the gross weight was over 3500kg.
That confirms the gross weight is 3500kg without assuming otherwise.
The op has a C1 licence
 
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When I got my van, it weighed pretty similar all in.
I could also drop 100kg water rather than travel full tank
But I uprated to 3850kg just so as I didn't have to fret about taking stuff out if I wanted to put stuff in etc.

Now, in a few years I'll be 70 - who knows if I'll be still motorhoming - but assuming I am, which is less hassle? Downplating or keeping my C1?
 
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pappajohn said:
Then why state their weight is 3450kg leaving 50kg spare if the gross weight was over 3500kg.
That confirms the gross weight is 3500kg without assuming otherwise.
The op has a C1 licence
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Because the OP may not fully understand the regulations and could be referring to being weighed at 3500Kg and driving a van plated at 3850Kg for which, if he does not renew his C1, he would be illegal.

IMO Riverbankannie was right to be clear.

Cheers
Red
 
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At 70 go for the C1, knowing that if you fail the D4 medical you are OK with the present MH.

If you pass, you know that when the Lotto ticket comes up you can visit the Morelo factory and pick whatever you want!

The only cost is the D4 doctors fee of about £50-60

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Are you OK on the individual axle weights? I expect there is some to spare because the sum of the axle weights is probably greater than 3500kg. I am interested in the axle weights because in a few months time I will be doing a similar exercise with my new Malibu 640.

At 70 I had no problem keeping my C1 but by 73 I am subject to treadmill stress tests because of an unexpected heart attack. We never know what is around the corner so no harm in keeping all your options open.
 
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Andy1954 said:
Hi all thanks for your thoughts. Van is plated at 3500kg gives me plenty to think Ono
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Hi,
Just out of interest, what were the axle loading. It's possible to be under gross weight but over on one of the axles.
Hopefully not the case
 
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pappajohn said:
Then why state their weight is 3450kg leaving 50kg spare if the gross weight was over 3500kg.
That confirms the gross weight is 3500kg without assuming otherwise.
The op has a C1 licence
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But you are assuming that the OP knows that it is the GVW that dictates the licence requirement and not the ACTUAL weight of the van (the latter would also explain their reference to 3450Kg).

Ian
 
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Andy1954 said:
We have a Burstner Brevio T640
Just been to weigh bridge and came in at 3450kg fully laden eg full water tank full fuel tank clothes food, us two and our dog.

That gives me 50 kg, I’m 70 this summer so I’m thinking no need to keep my C1. Good decision ?
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I think so. I've got a C licence, but can't be bothered with keeping any of that and running the gauntlet with periodic medicals, so have already got myself in a 3.5 tonne van.
 
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I am not sure why anyone who has no known medical problems should be worried about D4 medicals to renew a C1 licence.

I am 82 next month and I have just sent off my D2 and D4 for my 5th renewal and there is little change from my last one so I do not anticipate a problem.
 
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Andy1954 said:
We have a Burstner Brevio T640
Just been to weigh bridge and came in at 3450kg fully laden eg full water tank full fuel tank clothes food, us two and our dog.

That gives me 50 kg, I’m 70 this summer so I’m thinking no need to keep my C1. Good decision ?
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I'd keep my C1 unless I had 500kg margin on payload. Personal duty free alcohol allowance alone for two adds 150kg
 
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Langtoftlad said:
When I got my van, it weighed pretty similar all in.
I could also drop 100kg water rather than travel full tank
But I uprated to 3850kg just so as I didn't have to fret about taking stuff out if I wanted to put stuff in etc.

Now, in a few years I'll be 70 - who knows if I'll be still motorhoming - but assuming I am, which is less hassle? Downplating or keeping my C1?
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Same here ,I’ll keep the C1 for as long as I can 👍
 
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nicholsong said:
I am not sure why anyone who has no known medical problems should be worried about D4 medicals to renew a C1 licence.

I am 82 next month and I have just sent off my D2 and D4 for my 5th renewal and there is little change from my last one so I do not anticipate a problem.
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I lost my C1 entitlement when I exchanged my UK licence for a French one as being a French Resident. Not only did I have 'Grandfather' rights as having taken a UK driving test licence at the right time to qualify for one, I also had a MoD (Ministry of Defence) driving test qualification for driving heavy vehicles which was then converted to a UK civilian licence.

It didn't do me any good when trying to argue my case, latterly, with the French authorities. Should have moved to Poland instead, but it's too cold and the language has too many zzzz's in it .

Stuck with sub 3,500kg.

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Charente16 said:
I lost my C1 entitlement when I exchanged my UK licence for a French one as being a French Resident. Not only did I have 'Grandfather' rights as having taken a UK driving test licence at the right time to qualify for one, I also had a MoD (Ministry of Defence) driving test qualification for driving heavy vehicles which was then converted to a UK civilian licence.

It didn't do me any good when trying to argue my case, latterly, with the French authorities. Should have moved to Poland instead, but it's too cold and the language has too many zzzz's in it .

Stuck with sub 3,500kg.
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How do French people drive vans over 3500?
 
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And don't forget to add weight of bikes if using......electric even worse!

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Charente16 said:
I lost my C1 entitlement when I exchanged my UK licence for a French one as being a French Resident. Not only did I have 'Grandfather' rights as having taken a UK driving test licence at the right time to qualify for one, I also had a MoD (Ministry of Defence) driving test qualification for driving heavy vehicles which was then converted to a UK civilian licence.

It didn't do me any good when trying to argue my case, latterly, with the French authorities. Should have moved to Poland instead, but it's too cold and the language has too many zzzz's in it .

Stuck with sub 3,500kg.
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Is that normal in France or did you just encounter a person on a Monday morning with a bad hangover?

Please what are others experience?

I wonder what is the rule when changing from another EU licence in a country where there are no grandfather rights, e.g. here in Poland. How would they know I had not taken a test? Poland just said we 'give you anything already on your UK licence.'
 
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RedFrame said:
Because the OP may not fully understand the regulations and could be referring to being weighed at 3500Kg and driving a van plated at 3850Kg for which, if he does not renew his C1, he would be illegal.

IMO Riverbankannie was right to be clear.

Cheers
Red
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bigtwin said:
But you are assuming that the OP knows that it is the GVW that dictates the licence requirement and not the ACTUAL weight of the van (the latter would also explain their reference to 3450Kg).

Ian
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They stated in a later post the GVW is 3500kg.
I give in. :doh:
 
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pappajohn said:
They stated in a later post the GVW is 3500kg.
I give in. :doh:
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Nah, at the time of my original post, they had  not stated their plated weight as you well know.

Edit: Neither had they stated their plated weight at the time of my post that you quoted... :unsure:

Cheers
Red.
 
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