Joined the Comfortmatic failure club

[Nanniemate]

Nope haven't tried that recalibration thing. The software says gearbox temp needed to be over 20 deg, but was only 9 deg.

But I'm now quite wary of making anything worse when I don't understand what I am doing and realistically don't know if it is safe, or not to run that command, or others. If there are bits broken mechanically then I'll be increasing damage. If electronics calibrate incorrectly, could those then damage the mechanics? It must be remembered that this has all started a week or so having been towed off a muddy pitch, and then also after the can had been driven in short hops on and off ramps. This could easily have put unexpected forces into the gearbox / clutch, which would correlate to the broken thingys in the links above.

I'll have perhaps one chance to start it and get it to go into gear to get it to Adams Morey. If I can't drive it I'm going to have a really expensive challenge of some form of recovery transport. I'm at the point of accepting fate, and cost and having booked in with people who I believe should be trusted, must await what they come up with, otherwise I'm chasing in ever increasing circles and expense on parts and stuff.

Rob do you not have home start on your breakdown service ? Try it Sunday if it won't start call them out and get it delivered to your chosen garage it will be there for Monday morning

 

[RandallC]

Booked in with Adams Morey for Monday 15th May (earliest they could do with all the bank holidays). Let's just hope I can get it to start into gear one last time.

Sorry to say YES, Adams Morey will no doubt cure the problem, alas their staring point is to remove the gearbox and controller for testing. As it's removed they will want to replace the dual mass fly wheel and clutch plate and cover, also the concentric slave cylinder.
All of which is heading best part of £4k if the solenoid pack is faulty then, that a couple of years ago was circa £2.5k with a long delivery time.

Sorry to add to your missery, just the reason why we traded out Kontiki confotmatic after being recovered 4 times in 12 months due to gear box select gear failure.

Now have true 9 speed auto, nearly as good as a golf DSG, but slower.

 

[Pausim]

Sorry to say YES, Adams Morey will no doubt cure the problem, alas their staring point is to remove the gearbox and controller for testing.

They managed to cure ours without removing anything. Hopefully the op will find his is easily cured too. Removing gearbox and controller doesn’t sound like a starting point to me. Quite a few have reported having to have the hydraulic fluid changed and the set up recalibrated.

 

[RandallC]

They managed to cure ours without removing anything. Hopefully the op will find his is easily cured too. Removing gearbox and controller doesn’t sound like a starting point to me. Quite a few have reported having to have the hydraulic fluid changed and the set up recalibrated.

Hopefully you are right, alas that's not our experience with A.M.

 

[Dutch 68]

Like our one?
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Very nice but in anthracite grey please with a nice vario MH conversion

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[WESTY66]

Like our one?
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A T cab Scania 770 V8 would be much better

 

[Beltie]

Its very easy to see why that is no good, It has Magneti Marelli written on it - this is italian for "unreliable"

Probably almost as bad as Lucas. Don't or didn't Ferrari etc use MM kit?

 

[KD]

First thing I do when starting the engine is turn the stop/start function OFF, it's a pain in the butt.
It's one of those annoying things manufacturers think we want,...

Actually, I think they were introduced as a result of an EU Directive.

Mind you, ours only seems to work on the rare occasions that the fridge isn't running on 12v (and yes, the vehicle battery is fully cahrged).

 

[Steve-N]

We have a compressor fridge, so permanently on 12V when in use. The stop/start operates as soon as the engine in up to normal temperature.
At least it has a off button, but this resets everytime you turn the engine off/on.
It makes little noticeable difference to mpg, just increases starter motor wear !!

 

[eurajohn]

We have a compressor fridge, so permanently on 12V when in use. The stop/start operates as soon as the engine in up to normal temperature.
At least it has a off button, but this resets everytime you turn the engine off/on.
It makes little noticeable difference to mpg, just increases starter motor wear !!

Think you'll find the reason behind stop-start was for environmental / emissions reasons, apparently idling engine produces a lot of emissions.

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[Nanniemate]

Think you'll find the reason behind stop-start was for environmental / emissions reasons, apparently idling engine produces a lot of emissions.

Shows how things change it used to be (back in the dark ages) that starting and stopping the engine were bad now that technology has moved on its the other way around ..in 50 years time ....?

 

[Kannon Fodda]

So shall we start a sweepstake on how much it's going to cost and, as importantly when I will see my van again

£300 for the recovery truck to Portsmouth. Grateful to Surrey Recovery (avoid similar names) who assisted when the pre booked lot didn't show.

 

[Googlebot]

So shall we start a sweepstake on how much it's going to cost and, as importantly when I will see my van again
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I am remaining positive.

£180 and 2 days.

 

[Jim]

What gear were you in when you drove it up the ramp

 

[Kannon Fodda]

What gear were you in when you drove it up the ramp

Neutral, winched on. 2nd use ever of the towing eye. Getting practised at putting it on now

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[davidroxburgh]

I would not dare guess but I do think Simon Potter will keep you posted and do an honest job.

 

[mikebeaches]

Good luck and fingers crossed it's not too painful in terms of both cost and time off the road.

As a fellow comfortmatic van owner - of a similar age to yours - I'm following with interest...

 

[Steve-N]

Mine was over £4k . . BUT that was the whole front end dismantled, engine/gearbox out, split gearbox from engine, identify issue (cracked actuator and hydraulic oil leaked into gearbox and contaminated clutch plate) Fuat replaced the whole gearbox/actuator assembly, then it all had to be put back together and road tested.
Luckily for me Fiat settled the entire invoice.

It was off road for 15 weeks, which was blamed on parts shortages due to Ukraine war, Fiat refused to cover for the "loss of use"

The garage said it would have been a lot less rime and cost if Fiat hadn't insisted that they took the whole engine/gearbox out as one unit

 

[dunnah01]

Somewhere between £200 & £10,000 depending on how proficient the garage are and wether there is actual mechanical damage.

 

[Pausim]

I will go with £300 and 3 days.

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[raysalaugh]

I would not dare guess but I do think Simon Potter will keep you posted and do an honest job.

Might be better off with Harry Potter, he's a wizard with most things.

 

[CazPaul]

Somewhere between £200 & £10,000 depending on how proficient the garage are and wether there is actual mechanical damage.

That’s hedging your bets a bit

So if it’s expensive the garage is rubbish?

Post before yours over 4k repair which I have heard lots say.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

Given hourly rate is well over £100 even for a moderate issue I can't envisage change out of a grand, but really don't want it to be a five figure number or even moderately close to that, which I'd struggle to find.

Real question is if I can be back on road before end of month otherwise I risk losing money on ferries and stuff. That's if I have confidence in any repair ....

 

[Freo]

This thread has set me thinking and, on a related theme, I’m looking for a bit of advice on the Comfortmatic box, please.
I have a Fiat 2.3L 130bhp unit first registered early 2017 with a Comfortmatic box.
I have not had any issues with it, but I am wondering if I should look to having all associated fluid’s replaced as a ‘routine maintenance’ precaution. I am aware that the handbook states ‘check levels’ only, but will that be enough over time?
Or, should I operate on the principle ‘if it ain’t broke then don’t fix it’?

Apologies for hijacking the thread.

 

[Lenny HB]

£3,450.

Your van will be joining a friend of mine's van that is in at the moment having a new 9 speed box fitted Fiat are supplying the box FOC but he is not expecting any change out of £2k for labour.

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[Kannon Fodda]

I get impression that fluid change is important. It can get hot so standard check on moisture in brake type fluids won't confirm if the fluid at clutch end has gummed up.

 

[Lenny HB]

This thread has set me thinking and, on a related theme, I’m looking for a bit of advice on the Comfortmatic box, please.
I have a Fiat 2.3L 130bhp unit first registered early 2017 with a Comfortmatic box.
I have not had any issues with it, but I am wondering if I should look to having all associated fluid’s replaced as a ‘routine maintenance’ precaution. I am aware that the handbook states ‘check levels’ only, but will that be enough over time?
Or, should I operate on the principle ‘if it ain’t broke then don’t fix it’?

Apologies for hijacking the thread.

If nothing else do make sure the clutch fluid is changed regularly Simon the service manager at Adams Morey has his changed yearly. Although it's a joint master cylinder with the brakes most garages don't bother bleeding the clutch when they change the brake fluid.

 

[gus-lopez]

It's one of those annoying things manufacturers think we want,

As said a legal requirement under both eu & uk regs. Even in the uk in some areas idling is illegal.If you do not have stiop start you are supposed to turn off engine when waiting at lights, crossings, roundabouts ,etc. I kid you not.

I have my fingers crossed it will be £387 2/6d & back wednesday.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

£3,450.

Your van will be joining a friend of mine's van that is in at the moment having a new 9 speed box fitted Fiat are supplying the box FOC but he is not expecting any change out of £2k for labour.

So the much lauded zf boxes have issues too?

 

[Lenny HB]

So the much lauded zf boxes have issues too?

A batch were fitted without the correct oil level so probably down to Fiat not ZF.

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