Joined the Comfortmatic failure club

Till the cables snap or the clutch goes😉👍👍🤣
I had a starter motor failure on arrival at a Portugese camper stop blocking reception, luckily there was a guy there with a loader and a strap, because I have a manual I could bump start it, and get it onto a pitch where a local mechanic swapped the starter out. Had I had an auto I would have been stuck waiting for recovery.
 
I’m sure I once read on here that a high percentage of comfortmatic problems had a 2.3L engine at the side of it🤷‍♂️
Yes I know there are more 2.3L engines out there but could there be something in it?? Who knows🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
I’ve had 2 comfortmatics, both coupled up to 3.0L zero glitches🤷‍♂️🤔
I say lets get a petition going and bring back the 3.0L to the ducato :rock:

Funny that our last van was a tag with a 3.0L and zero problems you might of cracked it WESTY66
 
Are all manual gearboxes mechanically connected to the lever or do some of them use fly by wire connections?

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This is the culprit and what you get instead of a gearstick & clutch pedal.

To be honest, I think mechanically it’s a fairly robust system. From what i am led to believe, most problems and faults are electrically related (Sensor & actuator).

I may be wrong but a large percentage of faults appear, when the clutch has worn beyond the parameters of the system. A clutch re-calibration, resets the parameters & off you go for 1000’s more trouble free miles.

Obviously, this can only be achieved by software capable of talking to the ecu & a competent operator. It would appear that we have some members on here with the required software and more knowledge than a large percentage of fiat dealerships. A small business opportunity perhaps 🤔

Obviously automatics are far more desirable, I just wish we could trust them a little more.
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Can I just say my 1994 Mitsubishi 4wd camper did 200,000 miles with zero issues from the auto box, the issue is making things over complicated by using robotocised gearboxes instead of tried and tested torque converter gearboxes, all to save a couple of miles per gallon I presume? The VW/Audi DSG is a different technology which gives really quick shifts unlike the robotic ones but as I haven't owned one I can't comment on reliability, but they do drive nicely.
 
in the trash can along with Active Cruise Control, Lane departure Control, Stop Start and keyless ignition.
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have always left foot braked when driving proper automatics, soon found this is very intolerant if you touch the brake before your foot leaves the accelerator, straight into limp mode,
you haven't been able to touch brake & accelerator even on an auto back in 2003 if it has cruise control or Tempomat. my 2003 kia would go straight in to limp mode with eml on until you took foot off accelerator
Although not afflicted in any way by the Fiat Comfortmatic, or the Iveco/Mercedes equivalent, I find that situation to be an absolute nonsense for any driver/owner.
as above the brake pedal has to drop the cruise out so if the ecu 'sees' brake 6 accelerator being used together it thinks there is a fault
Give me an old fashioned manual any day, simple is best.
until they put the slave cylinder inside the gearbox.:LOL:

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This is the culprit and what you get instead of a gearstick & clutch pedal.

To be honest, I think mechanically it’s a fairly robust system. From what i am led to believe, most problems and faults are electrically related (Sensor & actuator).

I may be wrong but a large percentage of faults appear, when the clutch has worn beyond the parameters of the system. A clutch re-calibration, resets the parameters & off you go for 1000’s more trouble free miles.

Obviously, this can only be achieved by software capable of talking to the ecu & a competent operator. It would appear that we have some members on here with the required software and more knowledge than a large percentage of fiat dealerships. A small business opportunity perhaps 🤔

Obviously automatics are far more desirable, I just wish we could trust them a little more.
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Its very easy to see why that is no good, It has Magneti Marelli written on it - this is italian for "unreliable" :LOL::LOL:
 
The VW/Audi DSG is a different technology which gives really quick shifts unlike the robotic ones but as I haven't owned one I can't comment on reliability, but they do drive nicely.
I had a robotised gearbox on a new Citroen. It was absolutely dreadful - among other issues the long delay between gears meant that getting onto busy roundabouts was a nightmare. After the permanent Stop/Start had woken the engine it would then select 1st until into the middle of the traffic at about 15mph when the car would slow down whilst it changed very slowly to 2nd by which time I was getting the finger or hooting from the car behind. It wasn't possible to pull away in 2nd and hold it there as the selector lever had only 'P', 'R', and 'D' options. I only kept the car for 6 weeks and four of those were spent looking for something with which to replace it.
I bought an Audi with the sublime 7 speed DSG transmission. It changes gear quicker that I would. No loss of drive at all whilst changing gear - smooth as silk, and I can only tell it's changing gear from the rev counter needle. it's uncanny how it responds to road conditions, i.e. changing down on downhill stretches to provide engine braking. Brilliant design and engineering.

P.S. I'm not permitted to drive any vehicle before having a £1200 hand control unit fitted which I obviously don't do for a potential purchase.
 
The comfortmatic is my 3rd robotised mechanical. The best was the Maserati Duoselect and the worst is the Smart Roadster, but all reliable and easy enough to drive once you found their style. Still miss the rev matching on downshift in sport mode of the Duoselect box ☹️
 
Personally I can't see the point of using complicated electronics and actuators to do tasks you can easily complete yourself, usually with better results. Throw automatics in the trash can along with Active Cruise Control, Lane departure Control, Stop Start and keyless ignition.
Maybe severe arthritis in the left leg?

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The best robotised manual I ever had was in my V10 M5. It was clunky, laboured and down right dangerous if you were trying to drive ‘normally’, however, stick it in gear position 5 and drive at 9/10ths and it was sublime, clearly the way the M engineers designed it!

All a long way from this clunky thing in my Iveco!
 
The comfortmatic is my 3rd robotised mechanical. The best was the Maserati Duoselect and the worst is the Smart Roadster, but all reliable and easy enough to drive once you found their style. Still miss the rev matching on downshift in sport mode of the Duoselect box ☹️
Just remembered a Porsche 911 Sportomatic II had from the late 70's aswell - that was the most fragile system I've owned although when working it was better than the plain manual which had to most stupidly heavy clutch. It really only made the clutch automatic you still had to stir the pudding bowl to change gears but the gear stick had various micro switches to tell he clutch and gearbox selector what to do.
 
The best robotised manual I ever had was in my V10 M5. It was clunky, laboured and down right dangerous if you were trying to drive ‘normally’, however, stick it in gear position 5 and drive at 9/10ths and it was sublime, clearly the way the M engineers designed it!

All a long way from this clunky thing in my Iveco!
I think you will find your Iveco box is made by ZF 😉
 
The best robotised manual I ever had was in my V10 M5. It was clunky, laboured and down right dangerous if you were trying to drive ‘normally’, however, stick it in gear position 5 and drive at 9/10ths and it was sublime, clearly the way the M engineers designed it!

All a long way from this clunky thing in my Iveco!
Wasnt this Clarksons original "stupid flappy paddle gearbox"?

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Wasnt this Clarksons original "stupid flappy paddle gearbox"?

It was indeed… he slated it too because it was terrible when driving normally. However, redline through the gears (8250 RPM) with the V10 screaming through my Hayward and Scott exhaust and it was a damned fine gear change and a just worked perfectly… 🥰

It was a thirsty engine that one and I did 100k miles in that car… 🤦‍♂️
 
Why would they make things so complicated it’s beyond me, you can understand to some extent doing it for emissions, but a gearbox🤣.

Give me an old fashioned manual any day, simple is best.
We can tell you live out on the moors. Try driving around the M25 in rush hour you will soon change your mind.

For modern traffic conditions autos of any form are far superior to manuals.
 
Had my first auto when I was 25. :LOL:
Oh you have been an oap for a long while then 🤣
I was never happy with our comfortmatic on our last Hymer it did some strange things, but our Iveco with a ZF 8 speed spot on I never give it a thought even when towing 👍
 
We can tell you live out on the moors. Try driving around the M25 in rush hour you will soon change your mind.

For modern traffic conditions autos of any form are far superior to manuals.
I wouldn't agree that they're better for a mh. I can sometimes go for 3-4 hours in top gear. I try and time my use of the M25 to avoid rush hour.

The thing that irritates me about lorry "auto" gearboxes is that they dont cope well with interruptions, like islands, ZF s are particularly poor but Scanias also aren't good, whereas in my old bus I will choose either 3rd or 4th as I enter and rely on the torque to pull me out agajn.
 
I wouldn't agree that they're better for a mh. I can sometimes go for 3-4 hours in top gear. I try and time my use of the M25 to avoid rush hour.

The thing that irritates me about lorry "auto" gearboxes is that they dont cope well with interruptions, like islands, ZF s are particularly poor but Scanias also aren't good, whereas in my old bus I will choose either 3rd or 4th as I enter and rely on the torque to pull me out agajn.
If only Volvo would knock an i-shift up for Fiat😁😁😁😁
 
The best robotised manual I ever had was in my V10 M5. It was clunky, laboured and down right dangerous if you were trying to drive ‘normally’, however, stick it in gear position 5 and drive at 9/10ths and it was sublime, clearly the way the M engineers designed it!

All a long way from this clunky thing in my Iveco!
I have fond memories of the E 60 M 5 with the SMG gearbox as you say very good when pressing on as was the earlier SMG in a previous M3 my current M5 has the ZF gearbox and it really is good smooth and easy to use but I do miss the connection you get with a manual gearbox feels like you are more in control

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