Is this true? Dieselgate … Motorhome compensation

[SpeedyDux]

I was told thousands of £ were wiped of some dealers forecourts stock.

It certainly reduced resale of private owned cars by a big chunk.

That is the sort of proof of loss that should be required to establish these claims, individually. The normal rule is you have to prove actual financial loss to support a claim for damages. That requires selling the vehicle to crystallise your loss. Or, hiring an expert witness to prove anticipated loss. Well, maybe not in these dieselgate class actions. We live in strange times.

FYI Stellantis has announced record profits. Yup, that's partly because of the inflated prices of the base vehicles for MH conversion.

 

[Brains]

Not really. I think the compensation should go to those it may have affected. Not the buyer who was safe inside the car and probably has not suffered any financial or otherwise loss. The prices certainly were never reduced . Diesel cars have always sold well and continue to do so.

Unrealistic targets drove this to be honest and we are all on track to do the same come 2030 as no country is yet anywhere near Ready to go full electric.

I agree with you in principal, see my earlier comments.

As for EV's, they will arrive.
There will of course be a 20 years transition between EV's and Diesels, with the places that Diesels can drive getting smaller and smaller year on year.
Today's £100,000 motorhome will still be drivable in the 2050's, but it will not be getting free access to any town or city in Europe .

 

[gus-lopez]

But they achieved that by deliberately circumnavigating the testing process,

They complied with the rules in force. All that was required was that the vehicle emitted X or less at point of test.

it was cheating.

It wasn't. You need to ask ,and specify exactly, what you require.
It is like aSking "what is the time?" The answer is "when?".

VW admitted the cheating back in 2015, so I've no idea why you think they legally applied rules

Because it was easier and cheaper to pay than to fight.

Their CEO said later

Yes ,as would any buck passer. Means nothing.

Because people were miss sold, whether it affected them directly or not matters not this day and

No they weren't. It has 4 wheels engine a gearbox,works and you can travel in it. What's the problem?

The software was 'gamed' to recognise when a test was being carried out and therefore performed in a different way to real life.

It complied with what they asked for. X emissions when tested.

Google the name Elle Kissi-Deborah, a ten year old girl killed by diesel particulates.

And? The nuclear conflagration hopefully coming soon will mean you won't be having to worry about particulates.

So, I sell you an item,
I lie about the specification.
You later find out your item is killing people.
You are then given the option of compensation.

Do you take it or not ?

Engine gearbox correct number of seats, sll works what else I'd there to be interested in.

I did not buy it to kill people.
However I find that I have fraudulently and inadvertently been mis sold an item.

So do I take the money ?
or let the murderer off scott free ?

As above ,you haven't. interested in emissions? Then walk.

producing. When I buy a vehicle I always consider the emissions before making a decision. B

Which makes uou one of the 5%

Should someone who knowingly sells an item that is not fit for purpose get away with it ?

As above,they haven't.

 

[Jim]

As above,they haven't.

The courts disagree with you, the people who did it and then admitted it, disagree with you. I disagree with you. However, one thing the courts me, VW and all the others would agree on, is that no one is as good as you at using the forum multi-quote feature

 

[stevewagner]

Ahh didn’t know that.

Should have gone to Court, VAG would have lost.

They complied with the rules in force. All that was required was that the vehicle emitted X or less at point of test.

It wasn't. You need to ask ,and specify exactly, what you require.
It is like aSking "what is the time?" The answer is "when?".

Because it was easier and cheaper to pay than to fight.

Yes ,as would any buck passer. Means nothing.

No they weren't. It has 4 wheels engine a gearbox,works and you can travel in it. What's the problem?

It complied with what they asked for. X emissions when tested.

And? The nuclear conflagration hopefully coming soon will mean you won't be having to worry about particulates.

Engine gearbox correct number of seats, sll works what else I'd there to be interested in.

As above ,you haven't. interested in emissions? Then walk.

Which makes uou one of the 5%

As above,they haven't.

Obviously you are not able to claim!

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[bigtwin]

if you buy any fuel burning vehicle or use a cooker , or anything else thats contributing in any small way to pollution you've been effectively killing people and wildlife all that time.

Yes, anyone who has been driving long enough has been killing people throughout. The only difference associated with this issue is how long it would take to kill someone.

Ian

 

[DerryW]

It's a No for the MoHo but a big YES for the Discovery Sport.

thanks Jim

 

[David and Sally]

There is no such thing as free money, it will all come from somewhere, probably in this case in dearer motors or insurance.

Well said.

 

[MillieMoocher]

I seem to have fallen at the first hurdle!

in the period in question I owned 8 diesel cars but had my private plate on them all..

the email I got back said “can we have the VIN numbers so we can check eligibility”

for some reason I haven’t kept a note of these so I’m not sure if I’ll get anywhere. I did suggest that they could probably contact DVLA and find out the history of the plate assignment and work out from there but I suspect this will be too much work for them when there is other low hanging fruit they can pick.

 

[Puddleduck]

Going to claim for the car but not the van. If I do receive anything 50% of anything I receive will go to Dementia UK.

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[Puddleduck]

When I buy a vehicle I always consider the emissions before making a decision.

If two vehicles did what I needed and were about the same price the emissions and mpg would decide it.

 

[Realist]

Thanks to Jim’s link I’ve just placed a claim for my Land Rover, wife’s Citroen and my old Jaguar car I sold.

The system would not accept my old Fiat Ducato Autocruise 2009.

 

[Busybees]

Just claim the money and give it to an appropriate charity. Preferably one that doesn't pay its management megabucks!

 

[IanFraser]

The average payout was a bit under £2k.

Before the solicitor’s cut or after?

 

[Graham Mew]

I've had payout on my Audi diesel in the past couple of weeks. I know Mercedes is being class-actioned too. I've not heard of other manufacturers being hit though.

I have just received £1700.00 from VW
after purchasing a Passat Alltrack costing 32
k back in 2014. I chose this car for the very reason it had the lowest emissions at the time against all the other manufacturers.

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[Bailey58]

I seem to have fallen at the first hurdle!

in the period in question I owned 8 diesel cars but had my private plate on them all..

the email I got back said “can we have the VIN numbers so we can check eligibility”

for some reason I haven’t kept a note of these so I’m not sure if I’ll get anywhere. I did suggest that they could probably contact DVLA and find out the history of the plate assignment and work out from there but I suspect this will be too much work for them when there is other low hanging fruit they can pick.

I've registered three vehicles for the period in question but I've put the original licence plates on although they all had private plates on during my time. They normally revert to the original plate after selling. I still have the purchase docs if needed, it sometimes pays to be a hoarder.

 

[gus-lopez]

Obviously you are not able to claim!

It would never occur to me even if I could? I bought vehicles when working usually every 9 months. Emissions and economy don't get a thought as all fuel was tax deductible, along with the vat, & emissions is of no interest. Petrol hasn't been worth buying since lead was removed.
& no I haven't lived in the UK for 20 years fortunately.

 

[Yorick]

Is there a similar claims company for us folk in Spain.
I looked but found nada.

 

[minesapint]

I find this whole "diesel gate" to be a bit of a scam, how has anyone owning a diesel been disadvantaged? If anyone could claim surely it should be your neighbours etc who breath in the gases?
This is purely "ambulance chasing" by the solicitors, they will be the main beneficiaries of all of this, and need to be shut down, if not, you or your business could be the next one they target to put out of business.

I had one bunch of Ambulance chasing solicitors re my Volvo.
They said I would have to stand in court and swear that I would have not bought my XC if I had known about the fuel thing.
I said I would not lie as I would have bought it anyway, as it was the car I wanted.
They got the hump and cut off.

 

[Mountain man]

It was a no for me as it only covers England and Wales.

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[Puddleduck]

It was a no for me as it only covers England and Wales.

There are offices in Scotland if you use Mydieselclaim

We are in Scotland.

 

[HKF]

I haven't read the whole thread, as it doesn't apply to me, but I do know of one thing people should consider, if they're thinking of claiming. It's 'unlikely' to happen but if it did.....

Here's the text, taken from the linkk below;

"4. Signing up is free – but not risk-free

As these are 'no win, no fee' legal claims, you won't have to pay anything upfront to join any of them, though if you do join and the claim is successful, somewhere between a third and a half of the payout will go to the law firm.

If a claim ISN'T successful, you're unlikely to have to pay anything, but it's not impossible. If a court ruled in favour of the manufacturer you could technically be liable for its legal costs. In practice, this would likely be covered by the law firm's 'ATE' or 'after the event' insurance – but the cover will be capped, so it's not bulletproof.

We aren't able to verify whether firms have this cover – but almost all of those listed in the table below told us that they have, or will take out, sufficient ATE cover to protect you from having to pay legal costs.

The exception is Keller Lenkner UK. It said it puts insurance cover in place "in most cases", although it decides this on a case-by-case basis. It added that it has also made a legal promise to financially protect clients itself from having to pay anything if their claim fails."

Diesel emission claims

Discover more about diesel emission claims, relating to VW, Mercedes and more, in this full guide from Martin Lewis's MoneySavingExpert.

www.moneysavingexpert.com

 

[Tony50]

It would never occur to me even if I could? I bought vehicles when working usually every 9 months. Emissions and economy don't get a thought as all fuel was tax deductible, along with the vat, & emissions is of no interest. Petrol hasn't been worth buying since lead was removed.
& no I haven't lived in the UK for 20 years fortunately.

 

[Tony50]

Lots of people are going down the Petrol way in UK, I think now I have heard Formula 1 are muted to being going down the Hydrogen way I'm going to hang on to my diesel Volvo.
As regards to the UK ,yes there are lots of things wrong with UK ,and I have travelled abroad to several countries which are nice to holiday in, never been to a better country than the UK to live , but there I'm a Royalist !! so, I don't like people to knock my country, and, look at the faith " The Girls have just won the European football cup "

 

[Minxy]

Just done this for our campers/MHs and it appears that both our 2006 Rimor which we px'd in 2010 for a new Chausson may stand a chance, both were Ford based. The Fiats we've had don't appear to qualify.

I'll have to do some digging for more info!

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[Geistguy]

I've got a 2017 VW Caddy Diesal had from new. Would i be allowed to claim for free money?

My son received compensation for his VW Caddy Life, not sure of the amount or who dealt with his claim though but the precedent has been made.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Just had an email:
My diesel van having been converted into a motorhome is specifically excluded from their class action claim .

Not sure of the relevance, it's still a diesel engined citroen panel van.

 

[Guigsy]

Just had an email:
My diesel van having been converted into a motorhome is specifically excluded from their class action claim .

Not sure of the relevance, it's still a diesel engined citroen panel van.

I guess the claim is based on the fact that it's devalued because it could potentially not be as economical after it's being de-cheated. That was certainly the worry from VW cars. But it's harder to argue that a motorhome is significantly devalued by dieselgate. There were no alternatives to turn to. A secondary factor might be the case winnings will be based on the value of the vehicle and motorhomes would massively skew the calculations.