Is this true? Dieselgate … Motorhome compensation

[Howard B]

I had a payout from Slater & Gordon for a diesel Octavia VRS I sold 6 years ago. Anita said I was wasting my time filling out the paperwork.

 

[ALI G]

I find view this thread quite sad really people scrapping for free money when you've bought a van not for the emissions it produces but as a motorhome not like people at a food bank

 

[MillieMoocher]

Thanks for the heads up on this one guys. I’ve always avoided this sort of thing on the basis that the payout to the end user would be very small but the numbers banded about piqued my interest.

Ive had to send an email to Leigh Day though as the multiple diesels I owned since 2007 all bore my private plate so any checker just returns the current vehicle to which is was assigned. Over the period involved 7 new diesels were involved! Excluding Motorhomes..

the delightful irony is that I’m looking at getting solar and battery storage fitted at home and payouts from dieselgate could pay for it. Fingers crossed…

 

[Brains]

I find view this thread quite sad really people scrapping for free money when you've bought a van not for the emissions it produces but as a motorhome not like people at a food bank

See post number 39

I agree with you in principal that in an ideal world the monies should be going to those in the dense urban areas that have suffered the most because of this issue.

However in the real world it will go to the owners of the vehicles who were fraudulently sold an item, some of whom will live in dense urban areas, but others will not.

But that is better than the money not being paid at all by those that knowingly caused the issue

 

[MillieMoocher]

I find view this thread quite sad really people scrapping for free money when you've bought a van not for the emissions it produces but as a motorhome not like people at a food bank

Got to say that this has been my thought process too, had I known the emmisions I still would have bought the vehicle so it felt a bit disingenuous claiming and feeding the legal sharks…

However as any payouts I’d get would be used to fund a solar project for my home I have managed to square that one off and am in the process of joining in…

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[Brains]

Why? Just complying with the rule that required x emissions when statically tested. No other requirement.

No they complied legally with what the rules were at the time.

As above, why?

Then those who made the rules are to blame for not ensuring that it was a real world test.

The only scamming is those who are claiming for what?

Why would there be any?
The stipulation was X emissions when tested. Nothing else.

The software was 'gamed' to recognise when a test was being carried out and therefore performed in a different way to real life.

It's much the same if you paid a mate to pass your driving test for you, or to take your speeding points.
You would be just gaming the system.

Google the name Elle Kissi-Deborah, a ten year old girl killed by diesel particulates.
Most of the rest of the victims would have died from 'respiratory illness' without a cause.

 

[Jim]

I find view this thread quite sad really people scrapping for free money

No one is scrapping. Well the law firms might have to. Just fill the form in. In five years time you might get a couple of quid or you might not. No one is going to lose any sleep over it, apart from the car companies, who are mostly French and German. Win Win

 

[Jim]

I am amazed that they are taking 50%, 5/6 years ago the norm was 15/30% max.
I think the thought that it is free money from the motor companies means that the law businesses are working on the basis that people will be happy with 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing, I think it’s robbery the lawyers have 75/80% of this process computerised and automatic so why are the6 taking so much?

Because I imagine it's going to be a long hard fight, that they must fund with absolutley no guarantees. As long as the % fee is mentioned up front, no one can really complain.

 

[Otter Spotter]

Signed up with Leigh May at 35% better than 50%. It might pay for a trip away in 5 years time

 

[pappajohn]

All this will do is push up the price of a new vehicle.
The manufacturers are going to simply give money away.
You carry on, but don't complain when the cost of your next new car is a couple of thousand more than expected.

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[Silver-Fox]

I had a VW Caddy and got £1700 through Slater and Gordon but that action is now finished.

Well below what was paid out in the States, short changed for an easy life regarding the solicitors me thinks.

 

[ALI G]

No one is scrapping. Well the law firms might have to. Just fill the form in. In five years time you might get a couple of quid or you might not. No one is going to lose any sleep over it, apart from the car companies, who are mostly French and German. Win Win

Sorry.! I know we've not agreed on a lot of things but seems so many people think it's right to claim for anything which not right it only increase the price we all pay.

 

[Otter Spotter]

All this will do is push up the price of a new vehicle.
The manufacturers are going to simply give money away.
You carry on, but don't complain when the cost of your next new car is a couple of thousand more than expected.

Not worried, I will not be buying any car new in the future

 

[Brains]

Sorry.! I know we've not agreed on a lot of things but seems so many people think it's right to claim for anything which not right it only increase the price we all pay.

So, I sell you an item,
I lie about the specification.
You later find out your item is killing people.
You are then given the option of compensation.

Do you take it or not ?

 

[slowcoach65]

Worth reading this: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/diesel-emissions-group-legal-claims/

There is small risk of ending up with a bill if the case goes against you - even if you are on a no-win-no-fee deal.

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[ALI G]

So, I sell you an item,
I lie about the specification.
You later find out your item is killing people.
You are then given the option of compensation.

Do you take it or not

Is it a motorhome that you brought for that reason not for the emissions ?

 

[Brains]

Is it a motorhome that you brought for that reason not for the emissions ?

I did not buy it to kill people.
However I find that I have fraudulently and inadvertently been mis sold an item.

So do I take the money ?
or let the murderer off scott free ?

 

[ALI G]

Of course your choice as always

 

[stevewagner]

Well below what was paid out in the States, short changed for an easy life regarding the solicitors me thinks.

It’s because it was an out of court settlement. VW agreed to pay compensation without accepting liability. In the US they went to court and lost.

 

[Silver-Fox]

It’s because it was an out of court settlement. VW agreed to pay compensation without accepting liability. In the US they went to court and lost.

Ahh didn’t know that.

Should have gone to Court, VAG would have lost.

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[stevewagner]

I find this whole "diesel gate" to be a bit of a scam, how has anyone owning a diesel been disadvantaged? If anyone could claim surely it should be your neighbours etc who breath in the gases?
This is purely "ambulance chasing" by the solicitors, they will be the main beneficiaries of all of this, and need to be shut down, if not, you or your business could be the next one they target to put out of business.

It’s certainly not a scam. They cheated the system by making the software lie about the emissions the vehicles were producing. When I buy a vehicle I always consider the emissions before making a decision. Because of their lies the second hand values of the vehicle is reduced therefore they should be made to pay.
I assume you are not affected.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Because of their lies the second hand values of the vehicle is reduced therefore they should be made to pay.
I assume you are not affected.

I was told thousands of £ were wiped of some dealers forecourts stock.

It certainly reduced resale of private owned cars by a big chunk.

 

[Blossom]

I had a VW car which was eligible for a claim but I am too late as apparently claims were only accepted up to May 2022. Just my luck.

 

[Northernraider]

As an FYI, the reason the Auto companies got caught is they got greedy.

If only a few engine manufacturers had done it, or they had all did it, but to a small degree, they would probably have got away with it.

However not only had most of the major manufacturers build in a way to cheat the tests, they had all did it to the maximum level that they thought they could without getting caught.

What never came to light, from any of the manufacturers was what must have been reams of emails and reports between senior management discussing what the maximum they thought they could get away with and what would happen if they got caught.

The reason they were caught was the EU installed a number of air monitoring stations in traffic blackspots in the UK, Germany, France and Italy.

It was the one at the Blackwall Tunnel in London that started to come up with 'wrong' results.

As the road is very densely covered in CCTV and a lot of the vehicles use it on daily basis, they were able to slice and dice the data to get all the regular diesel users make and model and age.
And then compare what the diesel emissions should have been given manufacturers specifications against what the air pollution monitors were actually picking up.

When they found the numbers did not match they added dozens more air pollution monitors all over the area and recorded the number plate of every single vehicle going through the tunnel. This meant they could get a real time feed of the predicted pollution levels (as given by the manufacturers) against actual pollution levels given by the monitors.

The process was repeated in in other locations all over Europe. All with the same results. That is when they started to look very closely at the cars and then found the fraud that had been committed.

Bottom line is if you own(ed) a diesel vehicle between 2008 and 2020 then click here and see if it's eligible for a claim. You only need your number plate to proceed and all they want is your contact details, takes all of 3 mins to fill in the form.

The more the motor manufacturers have to pay out the better.

Ive owned about 40 diesel vehicles between 2008 and 2020 but im buggered if i can remember all the registration numbers.

 

[Northernraider]

All this will do is push up the price of a new vehicle.
The manufacturers are going to simply give money away.
You carry on, but don't complain when the cost of your next new car is a couple of thousand more than expected.

Yep my sentiments exactly.

I see it the same way as folk who sue the NHS or first aiders etc. Just taking money out of one end to pay it on the other. And feeding fatcats in the process.

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[Northernraider]

So, I sell you an item,
I lie about the specification.
You later find out your item is killing people.
You are then given the option of compensation.

Do you take it or not ?

Killing people if you buy any fuel burning vehicle or use a cooker , or anything else thats contributing in any small way to pollution you've been effectively killing people and wildlife all that time. Theres no point in only taking notice of that when theres the chance of a few quid

I don't believe anyone claiming this is doing so for those reasons ...its for the free cash pure and simple.

Just be honest about it ....its more dignified

 

[Northernraider]

I did not buy it to kill people.
However I find that I have fraudulently and inadvertently been mis sold an item.

So do I take the money ?
or let the murderer off scott free ?

When a knife or gun kills someone. Is it the person who made it thats guilty ? Or the person who used it? I assume you stopped driving the said killing machine and had it destroyed so no one else could use it as soon as you were informed ?


Of course not

 

[RobbyMClark]

Just followed Jim link no Fiat in drop-down box so no go with the MY but have an on going claim for a Renault already so not able to be "scrabbling around for free money"

 

[Brains]

Killing people if you buy any fuel burning vehicle or use a cooker , or anything else thats contributing in any small way to pollution you've been effectively killing people and wildlife all that time. Theres no point in only taking notice of that when theres the chance of a few quid

I don't believe anyone claiming this is doing so for those reasons ...its for the free cash pure and simple.

Just be honest about it ....its more dignified

Should someone who knowingly sells an item that is not fit for purpose get away with it ?

Having been caught, it is only reasonable that they pay compensation to the buyer.

 

[Northernraider]

Should someone who knowingly sells an item that is not fit for purpose get away with it ?

Having been caught, it is only reasonable that they pay compensation to the buyer.

Not really. I think the compensation should go to those it may have affected. Not the buyer who was safe inside the car and probably has not suffered any financial or otherwise loss. The prices certainly were never reduced . Diesel cars have always sold well and continue to do so.

Unrealistic targets drove this to be honest and we are all on track to do the same come 2030 as no country is yet anywhere near Ready to go full electric.

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