Intelsat 907 Down

I don't know is the honest answer. Depending on the receiver you use and how the BISS codes are stored.
My box is an old Icecrypt 1600 unit that is not the easiest to update now as no support for it and editing the codes is a challenge. As I said I buggered it up as it was working and now I have lost the BISS codes. If you are in the footprint for Telstar North beam, can align your dish to receive it, can tune the box into the transmission & can enter the current BISS codes on your receiver then yes it should work.
Sorry but work in progress for me atm.
I have asked for an update on my van sat system to align to 15 West, this will be easier than setting a dish up on the drive and therefore better for messing around with the codes etc.Should know tmrw if an update is available.
out of interest which automatic dish do you have ?
I've emailed Maxview to see if they can supply a patch to update my 85cm connect
 
Maxview Target on our van. I also emailed them last week but the person who does it is away till today.
They are are normally very helpful as is Anthony OysterTech who may be able to help people with the Oyster units fitted.
 
Maxview Target on our van. I also emailed them last week but the person who does it is away till today.
They are are normally very helpful as is Anthony OysterTech who may be able to help people with the Oyster units fitted.

I have a oyster with the new command box and it has Telstar 15w already available only problem is I have taken my icecrypt box out and van is being traded, new van has a teleco easy smart sat so hopefully be able to connect with that, if I get time I will hook up the icecrypt and see if I can pick it up.
 
I have a oyster with the new command box and it has Telstar 15w already available only problem is I have taken my icecrypt box out and van is being traded, new van has a teleco easy smart sat so hopefully be able to connect with that, if I get time I will hook up the icecrypt and see if I can pick it up.
Good to see Oyster putting more sats in the software. When I was a Teleco dealer the unit had to go back to the distributor to be reprogrammed for Intelsat, however I know understand some dealers will change the programming for you. Good luck.
 
Maxview Target on our van. I also emailed them last week but the person who does it is away till today.
They are are normally very helpful as is Anthony OysterTech who may be able to help people with the Oyster units fitted.
would that be Lee who’s active on this forum
I’ve also mailed and find him very good at responding

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Good morning all,

We are aware that Intelsat has now ceased transmissions of the Sat back channels. There are now being transmitted via Telstar 12 which I'm sure most are aware of however currently, Oyster software, does not have any operational transponders programmed for that satellite. As soon as software is available we will be testing the operational range with regards to different dish sizes however from the footprint maps available from the official website look quite promising as can be seen here: https://www.telesat.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Telstar-12-VANTAGE.pdf (North Sea beam is where it's transmitted from). The working range for an Oyster V (85cm dish) is around 44DBW so it should work further afield than the range the current footprint map shows however we'll know more once some further testing is done. Also it's worth noting that the software update to allow connection to this satellite refers to new Oyster Feature box and Command units only. I am currently unsure on whether an update will be available for Vision III units but I do know that there will not be an update for Vision II or Digital variants so these would require manual pointing which can be done via the system menu structure or upgrading the electronics to the above Command unit variant.

Update: Vision III boxes with a HD tuner can be updated to lock on to the satellite and I can talk anyone with this unit through updating the transponder codes over the phone. I've just tested this to lock on but am awaiting testing with a unit which is able to receive the signals so at this point I can only confirm a lock but it is locked to the frequency broadcasting the satback channels.
 
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This is all an academic discussion, the answer, as I’ve been advocating for a while, is Starlink! 😇

At least you’ve all got a valid reason to upgrade to the future now! 🤣🤣
 
Good morning all,

We are aware that Intelsat has now ceased transmissions of the Sat back channels. There are now being transmitted via Telstar 12 which I'm sure most are aware of however currently, Oyster software, does not have any operational transponders programmed for that satellite. As soon as software is available we will be testing the operational range with regards to different dish sizes however from the footprint maps available from the official website look quite promising as can be seen here: https://www.telesat.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Telstar-12-VANTAGE.pdf (North Sea beam is where it's transmitted from). The working range for an Oyster V (85cm dish) is around 44DBW so it should work further afield than the range the current footprint map shows however we'll know more once some further testing is done. Also it's worth noting that the software update to allow connection to this satellite refers to new Oyster Feature box and Command units only. I am currently unsure on whether an update will be available for Vision III units but I do know that there will not be an update for Vision II or Digital variants so these would require manual pointing which can be done via the system menu structure or upgrading the electronics to the above Command unit variant.

Update: Vision III boxes with a HD tuner can be updated to lock on to the satellite and I can talk anyone with this unit through updating the transponder codes over the phone. I've just tested this to lock on but am awaiting testing with a unit which is able to receive the signals so at this point I can only confirm a lock but it is locked to the frequency broadcasting the satback channels.
Hi Anthony,

Great that you guys are on it. I’m currently in Gerona, Northern Spain. I have Telstar 12 as an optional satellite in my Oyster V, unfortunately the system fails to lock onto anything at the moment. I thought having it appear on my system would have meant it was programmed?

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This is all an academic discussion, the answer, as I’ve been advocating for a while, is Starlink! 😇

At least you’ve all got a valid reason to upgrade to the future now! 🤣🤣
I would rather have satellite, the switch off of Intelsat has driven us to use an IPTV via our Starlink. I far prefer by a long shot the use of a Satellite system for TV viewing, it is just so much easier and for those who do not have huge power supplies you need to remember how power hungry Starlink is, once up and locked a dish uses no power. Give me a dish any day.
 
I would rather have satellite, the switch off of Intelsat has driven us to use an IPTV via our Starlink. I far prefer by a long shot the use of a Satellite system for TV viewing, it is just so much easier and for those who do not have huge power supplies you need to remember how power hungry Starlink is, once up and locked a dish uses no power. Give me a dish any day.
Good for listening to the radio as well in the background
 
Impressed by their support, looks as though all may not be lost after all and i don't even use it but still have my fingers crossed for the people that do (y)
 
I have a oyster with the new command box and it has Telstar 15w already available only problem is I have taken my icecrypt box out and van is being traded, new van has a teleco easy smart sat so hopefully be able to connect with that, if I get time I will hook up the icecrypt and see if I can pick it up.
I tried searching and the Oyster V won’t lock onto Telstar 12 even though it comes up as an option. I’m sure Anthony shall be along soon to explain, seems strange it’s in the system but won’t lock on.
 
Hi Anthony,

Great that you guys are on it. I’m currently in Gerona, Northern Spain. I have Telstar 12 as an optional satellite in my Oyster V, unfortunately the system fails to lock onto anything at the moment. I thought having it appear on my system would have meant it was programmed?
Hi stewartwebr

Unfortunately the current software for the Oyster V (and units using the command centre) does not have working frequencies programmed in to Telstar 12 so we have to wait for the Germans to upload new software which users will then be able to install via the app. The Oyster Vision III system has a hidden menu where I can manually update the search frequencies for all available satellites hence why I can get them back up and running so quick but unfortunately the new systems no longer have this feature.

On a side note regarding Starlink. I get that people think internet is the way forward but I honestly believe it's a trojan horse. If and when we get to a point where satellite TV signals ceases to exist I believe the operators will block out content within weeks. Much easier to restrict programming via the internet and they can also block VPN's as well so all I'd say is be careful what you wish for. People leaving satellite for apparently "cheaper" internet options will eventually be the ones that ruin it for everyone. Just my opinion mind, not trying to start any arguments.

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I tried searching and the Oyster V won’t lock onto Telstar 12 even though it comes up as an option. I’m sure Anthony shall be along soon to explain, seems strange it’s in the system but won’t lock on.
Antony has indicated that transponder software is missing for Telstar.
Looks like they are working it so fingers crossed as I for one use it regularly here.🤞
 
On a side note regarding Starlink. I get that people think internet is the way forward but I honestly believe it's a trojan horse. If and when we get to a point where satellite ceases to exist I believe the operators will block out content within weeks.
Hi Antony. Hang on a minute are you saying that there will be a time when the 6,000 plus Starlink satellites that are currently in orbit and the anticipated 12,000 to be launched by Elon Musk will stop functioning/be taken down? I cannot possibly agree with that. Starlink is here to stay and with UK ground stations feeding the signal for most of France & Germany at the moment then there's no way that TV companies can prevent access. Once you get further south and need a VPN then that's a different matter.
 
Hi Antony. Hang on a minute are you saying that there will be a time when the 6,000 plus Starlink satellites that are currently in orbit and the anticipated 12,000 to be launched by Elon Musk will stop functioning/be taken down? I cannot possibly agree with that. Starlink is here to stay and with UK ground stations feeding the signal for most of France & Germany at the moment then there's no way that TV companies can prevent access. Once you get further south and need a VPN then that's a different matter.
I think he may have meant satellite tv broadcasting as opposed to Starlink?
 
Hi Antony. Hang on a minute are you saying that there will be a time when the 6,000 plus Starlink satellites that are currently in orbit and the anticipated 12,000 to be launched by Elon Musk will stop functioning/be taken down? I cannot possibly agree with that. Starlink is here to stay and with UK ground stations feeding the signal for most of France & Germany at the moment then there's no way that TV companies can prevent access. Once you get further south and need a VPN then that's a different matter.
Never said that once and to be quite honest I don't know where you get that from. The satellite network I'm referring to is the TV signals. Starlink is definitely here to stay, never questioned that.

Edit: Can understand the confusion so have edited my post.
 
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Antony has indicated that transponder software is missing for Telstar.
Looks like they are working it so fingers crossed as I for one use it regularly here.🤞
Exactly that. I've updated older units which work and lock on using the Satback frequency on Telstar. Head office are aware and have confirmed it works so just waiting for software release. Unfortunately though they'll probably incorporate it with changes to other satellites or bug fixes etc so it might be another week or so but as soon as I have an update I'll post to my feed and on this thread.

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Never said that once and to be quite honest I don't know where you get that from. The satellite network I'm referring to is the TV signals. Starlink is definitely here to stay, never questioned that.

Edit: Can understand the confusion so have edited my post.
No problem Anthony. Thanks for the clarification. I'm now a Starlink and MiFi owner so no longer have the Oyster 5 which was a great bit of kit.
 
I tried searching and the Oyster V won’t lock onto Telstar 12 even though it comes up as an option. I’m sure Anthony shall be along soon to explain, seems strange it’s in the system but won’t lock on.
Yeah mine wouldn't lock on either.

Edit sorry just read above post from Anthony, question to Anthony what other satellites are in the pre selects and don't work out of interest?
 
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Yeah mine wouldn't lock on either.

Edit sorry just read above post from Anthony, question to Anthony what other satellites are in the pre selects and don't work out of interest?
Ditcha that's a very good question! There are currently 20 satellites listed as available for automatic search in the Oyster Command unit/Feature box but the problem is that all satellites have different footprints so it's not always easy for me to verify whether they are active or not as the footprint sizes can vary and I may not be in an area where a lock is possible. I'll ask the question and come back when I have more info on this but I'm fairly sure that most are operational and, as long as they have an active KU band transponder frequency active then they will stay that way.
 
Quick update regarding the Amiko receivers - I'm being told that the BISS codes in these receivers are programmed for Intelsat 907 alone so it's most likely that a software patch is going to be required for the receiver to be able to decrypt the channels on Telstar 12. I'm not sure if the same goes for Icecrypt (or any other receivers) but I'll offer more advice on things hopefully before the end of the week.

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We’ve got a camos system it’s along time since it’s been any good past the Mosel I would like a easy to opperate 85cm dish that will get free view down to Spain but now I’m more confused 5han ever ,any ideas?
 
We’ve got a camos system it’s along time since it’s been any good past the Mosel I would like a easy to opperate 85cm dish that will get free view down to Spain but now I’m more confused 5han ever ,any ideas?
Flairy Satellite on Astra 2 on an 85cm system is going to cut out at the Pyrenees unfortunately. You will get certain free to air services further south but not BBC, ITV etc. The satellite mentioned in this thread allows you to receive those transmissions further but it is illegal to access the channels as they are encrypted. If you'd like to see the Oyster range I've put the link to the catalogue below for you. Please ask if you would like further info or RRP's for any of the systems.

 
We’ve got a camos system it’s along time since it’s been any good past the Mosel I would like a easy to opperate 85cm dish that will get free view down to Spain but now I’m more confused 5han ever ,any ideas?
As Anthony says and as we experienced with a previous mh that had an 85 cm Oyster 5 set up, all the UK channels cannot now be viewed south of Bordeaux. The only solution is a mifi or phone linked to an Amazon Firestick plugged into the TV. Or watch directly on a tablet with a UK SIM card.
 
I would rather have satellite, the switch off of Intelsat has driven us to use an IPTV via our Starlink. I far prefer by a long shot the use of a Satellite system for TV viewing, it is just so much easier and for those who do not have huge power supplies you need to remember how power hungry Starlink is, once up and locked a dish uses no power. Give me a dish any day.
Us too Stewart, whilst it is installed and still functional. (y)
That's why I have gone to the bother of repairing our Oyster 1 setup, after unavoidable contact with a low branch, aided by the supply of spares from Anthony/Pat at Oyster Tech. (y)

Good for listening to the radio as well in the background
Agreed Dave. Gold Radio for us. ;)

As Anthony says and as we experienced with a previous mh that had an 85 cm Oyster 5 set up, all the UK channels cannot now be viewed south of Bordeaux. The only solution is a mifi or phone linked to an Amazon Firestick plugged into the TV. Or watch directly on a tablet with a UK SIM card.
Which is exactly our situation with our dated Oyster 1 setup, so only using viewing data when outside the current Astra 2 footprints.

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
Thankyou having spoken to pat and Anthony’s download I have a little more understanding it’s just space on the roof now .
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