If I died in France is it illegal for my wife to drive to uk with me in the bed and then report it

[PeterCarole29]

As the title says really although it is more likely the other way round but thought it better I used it as the example
I have looked on the internet and only found what if you don’t report a death within 5days
Of course there could be many sinario s that would change the answer but simply if a person died naturally in the motor home in France and driven to the uk and then reported saving a lot of hassle have you broken the law

 

[andykim]

True story this...

Some friends of ours had a villa in Spain that they used for holidays.
I'll call them Jack and Jill to keep them anonymous!
One afternoon they were out in the hills with their Brit reg car when they saw another Brit reg car askew at the side of the road. There was a lady outside the car waving her arms in the air.
Jack and Jill stopped and the woman was crying uncontrollably, saying that she thought her husband had died at the wheel of the car. Jack had a quick look and thought "Yes, he looks dead" so what to do now?

Bear in mind this was prior to mobile phones and long before Political Correctness!

The woman couldn't drive and explained they were touring Spain and had booked into a hotel on the coast but couldn't remember the name. Jack's first thought was to return to civilisation and contact the authorities but who would stay with the deceased?

After a bit of discussion it was decided that they would move the deceased into the passenger seat and Jack would drive the car into the hospital in town, with Jill and the woman following.
They did this for a short distance but the deceased kept falling sideways out of the seatbelt and against Jack who was trying to drive a, strange to him, car.
They then decided that it would then be better to put the deceased in the boot of the car and carry on down to the hospital.

This went well for a while until Jill flashed her lights for Jack to stop and explained that the woman was becoming increasingly anxious and acting strangely as though perhaps she was going to collapse. They then decided that Jill would go ahead with the woman to the hospital in case she was going to collapse and prewarn the hospital that Jack was following behind with the husband who was thought to be dead.

As they approached the town, Jack said he suddenly realised that he was driving in a car that wasn't his and he had an unidentified dead body in the boot. He said he never felt so scared and uncomfortable in his life.

He eventually reached the hospital where he met up again with Jill and the woman who was by now feeling a little better.
The hospital pronounced the man dead and removed him from the car. After giving statements to the Police, Jack and Jill were allowed to return to their Villa.

Jack swore to us that everything happened as he said and that he was badly shaken for quite a while.

As said, Jack always maintained the story was true... but we'll never know!!

Whilst reading I was thinking, he's going to come too and try to get out of the boot ........

 

[Miggs]

Oh, another one for the stupidest question of the year award. Looks like a bumper year for entries!

 

[Holly's mum]

Whilst reading I was thinking, he's going to come too and try to get out of the boot ........

I was thinking that too

 

[Gina M]

I was thinking that too

me too

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[Neil Bedwin]

I wonder what the regulations are for having a local cremation and bringing the ashes home yourself. Must save on repatriation costs.

My wife died on the plane in Brisbane Airport. The funeral director came on the plane and took her away. I carried on the next day to New Zealand. A week later I flew back to Oman where I lived at the time. I arranged for the funeral director in Brisbane to cremate the body and send me the ashes. As DHL, TNT etc won't ship human remains a month or so later the office boy brought be an oblong package that had been posted by normal surface mail.

I think I signed some forms for Aus but nothing as regards to shipping.

All this was happily paid for by my insurance as it was cheaper than repatriation.

 

[Northernraider]

Not if you stuck to " i thought they were asleep?"

Or I never noticed , she always just lay there

 

[VXman]

Thankyou Gromett I’ll take the compliment
And for all that’s suspicious my wife is in good health but has been out foridging mushrooms which is a first and says it’s time I had a full English breakfast as we have been away in France and catch the ferry back Saturday

That's just reminded me of this story back in the summer...

Australian lethal mushroom mystery survivor leaves hospital

Erin Patterson cooked a meal using mushrooms which killed three relatives, but one has survived.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Hirsch]

This sounds like an interesting scam of some sort. I cannot wait for the next episode.

 

[Nanniemate]

As said ,the double bluff!

sounds like you have form?

no problem.Here you can be cremated for well under 500€. to my knowledge only the passport would have to be surrendered to the tanatorio for registering death & returning to country of citizenship.

To insure I do not incriminate myself

I cannot confirm or deny

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[Captain Yoghurtpot]

Your Honour I didn't know he was dead he is always stiff

Easy Tiger!

 

[Lavender1]

As the title says really although it is more likely the other way round but thought it better I used it as the example
I have looked on the internet and only found what if you don’t report a death within 5days
Of course there could be many sinario s that would change the answer but simply if a person died naturally in the motor home in France and driven to the uk and then reported saving a lot of hassle have you broken the law

I have always said - if Barry died abroad, especially if we had no insurance, I would get him cremated and bring him back in a coffee jar

 

[SalcombeRegis]

Many years ago (probably over 40) a friends father died whilst in Spain. Knowing the problems they would encounter over there, my friend at his mother’s request drove from Spain through France and into the ferry with him strapped in the back. Customs gave a cursory glance and they said he was asleep. Upon arrival at Dover, they reported his death immediately. Nothing came of it and they at least had him home without all of the formalities and time constraints and could put him to rest.

Whether you would get away with it today is another matter!

My own brother died in Spain in 1992 and it took over 2 weeks to get him home. Autopsy there and another one here on his return. All unpleasant and drags out the trauma.

 

[Platelet]

Once the death is registered, you could arrange a cremation and then transport back as hand luggage.

 

[Apacheman]

Have this from memory. Tried to verify but can’t find it anywhere. A few years ago some mates went to a rugby weekend in Newcastle could have been Edinburgh. Whilst there one of them died and they brought him back on the coach. Think they got prosecuted and ended up with police cautions. Something to do with relevant authorities being notified at the time or discovery of the death and making sure there are no suspicious circumstances.

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[GMLS]

A possible solution

 

[Hayesdec]

Your Honour I didn't know he was dead he is always stiff

True Story
My neighbors wife got up in the early hours of Sunday morning not feeling well. She sat in the armchair looking very comfortable her partner never woke her as she looked comfortable.( I spose if you wife is quite why cause problems) Just gave her an extra blanket. Left her there all day and cooked her a nice Sunday dinner this was late afternoon.? When he tried to wake her he realised she was dead. Unbelievable. I still can’t believe it but he was my neighbor.

 

[RV72 SAM 🏴]

My mother died at Dinan whilst on hol. A local funeral director organised everything, liaising with our chosen funeral director back home. No hassle at all.

Yes wear a mask think they will get the idea

 

[Hymerboy]

Thats why they call roof boxes granny boxes.

 

[RV72 SAM 🏴]

I have no further information to provide on this one. BUT...

I have to say this is the strangest question I have see on fun by a country mile. Can't see it being beaten for a while either.

Somewhere some-body bound to try it, especially if not insured so I think it's a valid question if you're of an age to be worried about it RP
But best place would be the garage, as never saw one opened up, but we did have a guard step aboard Not sure if the sniffer dog's would go balistic as only trained detect drug's far as I know

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[Gyro]

The French won’t let you out without taking their pound of flesh

 

[MarionK]

That's just reminded me of this story back in the summer...

Australian lethal mushroom mystery survivor leaves hospital

Erin Patterson cooked a meal using mushrooms which killed three relatives, but one has survived.

www.bbc.co.uk

Now that IS suspicious. Why would you give a meal that had given your guests food poisoning, to your children?

 

[Joethejoiner]

But the question was;

If I died in France is it illegal for my wife to drive to uk with me in the bed and then report it​

So, either;

1. She died in the bed and is still in the bed while the MH is being driven back to the UK (illegal for a start, as each passenger must be in a seat with a seat belt), or
2. She died elsewhere and was put in the bed to be driven back (where it would probably be established that the body had been moved and, in any event, we're back to the illegality of travelling without being belted in).

So, either way, it's illegal because it's illegal to have a passenger in a MH without being belted in and it's illegal to move a dead body (unless you're licenced to do so)

Fine them for travelling without a seatbelt . Suspect they won't be overly bothered

 

[Joethejoiner]

Somewhere some-body bound to try it, especially if not insured so I think it's a valid question if you're of an age to be worried about it RP
But best place would be the garage, as never saw one opened up, but we did have a guard step aboard Not sure if the sniffer dog's would go balistic as only trained detect drug's far as I know

I'm sure there was a film on this subject. Can't remember if it was based on dact

 

[SmithsInFrance]

I'm sure there was a film on this subject. Can't remember if it was based on dact

Oh yes, Little Miss Sunshine. Such a funny film

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[Libellula]

Yes illegal. As a former holiday rep I can confirm that driving or flying bodies over international borders requires a mountain of paperwork and a special coffin to be legal. Apart from that, passengers are required to be seated while the vehicle is moving, and if your intention was to act out shock to Border Force on arrival, you could find yourself seriously delayed in custody, and no question of you using your partner’s duty free allowance!
I hope for you this is just theoretical and never happens, happy traveling.

 

[Joethejoiner]

Oh yes, Little Miss Sunshine. Such a funny film

Was it based on fact (not dact) ?

 

[Spara4042]

..........and assuming Border Force don't search the van.

The Serco guys didn’t find my stowaway on the cycle rack, so not sure I’d have confidence that they’d find a dead body laying in bed

 

[Molly A]

I wonder what the regulations are for having a local cremation and bringing the ashes home yourself. Must save on repatriation costs.

Far more sensible. However, not always easy...Greece has only been one crematorium, I believe, located in the Athens area. The Greek Orthodox church apparently do not support cremations .

 

[cyberyacht]

At least within the EU one could do the "asleep on the bed" bit and moving to another EU country before registering the death & cremation.

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[Jonny1953]

Not if you stuck to " i thought they were asleep?"

Wouldn't they have to wear their seatbelt though