I Love My E & P Jacks

[two]

It amuses me that a tilt facility is provided. It may seem logical to tip the vehicle towards the side that the outlet is on, but many of the waste tank outlets are taken from the centre of the tank. Perhaps the vehicle should be levelled to empty fully, rather than tipped?
Tipping does get you noticed but, to me, it questions the understanding of those who installed it.

 

[Techno]

Rapido

 

[jezport]

It amuses me that a tilt facility is provided. It may seem logical to tip the vehicle towards the side that the outlet is on, but many of the waste tank outlets are taken from the centre of the tank. Perhaps the vehicle should be levelled to empty fully, rather than tipped?
Tipping does get you noticed but, to me, it questions the understanding of those who installed it.

The tilt is programmed per vehicle, so if your outlet is front centre the tilt would be forward to aid draining. I hope you are no longer amused!

 

[funflair]

It amuses me that a tilt facility is provided. It may seem logical to tip the vehicle towards the side that the outlet is on, but many of the waste tank outlets are taken from the centre of the tank. Perhaps the vehicle should be levelled to empty fully, rather than tipped?
Tipping does get you noticed but, to me, it questions the understanding of those who installed it.

Well ours is certainly at the side, the tipping or not is programmed by the installer and was done correctly on our installation.

Martin

 

[sallylillian]

5.4 Inclination wastewater-tank (set/programming)
The calibration procedure described below has already been carried out at your dealer/installer. You dont have to perform this procedure by yourself. E&P Hydraulics has decided to include this chapter as an extra in this manual in case of failure and-or service & repair matters.
If the inclination of the vehicle is not set or programmed, or you want to adjust the tilt, then this can be done with this procedure:
Step 1 Put the vehicle in the desired (new) tilt position.
Do this using the manual procedure (see chapter 4.2).
Step 2 Press 1x on the button “ON / OFF” (no.5) to switch OFF the levelsystem after manual levelling.
Step 3 Press 1x on the button “ON / OFF” (no.5) to switch the levelsystem ON.
Step 4 Press 5x on the button “FRONT SIDE” (no.12).
Step 5 Press 5x on the button “REAR SIDE” (no.11).
Step 6 Press 3x on the button “INCLINATION” (no.15).
The desired tilt (inclination) position is activated.
Step 7 Press 1x on the button “ON / OFF” (no.5) to switch the levelsystem OFF.

For those whose waste point is in a different plane or incline!!

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[Greenway]

When I tested the tilt program on my Rapido 7066df I got an extra 15 litres of waste out of the tank, so an excellent feature in my view.

 

[two]

I've only had a couple of vans with levelling, but both the drains appeared to come from the centre of the tank rather than the side. Not a very big sample, I'd agree. I might pay a bit more interest to this when I go to the NEC next. Of course, it's not easy to be certain when they're covered in insulation, and the tilt is not going to make a huge difference. If the set-up was right for a level van, emptying should be done on the level, although tipping towards the drain point, if you know where it is, would help.

 

[sallylillian]

I've only had a couple of vans with levelling, but both the drains appeared to come from the centre of the tank rather than the side. Not a very big sample, I'd agree. I might pay a bit more interest to this when I go to the NEC next. Of course, it's not easy to be certain when they're covered in insulation, and the tilt is not going to make a huge difference. If the set-up was right for a level van, emptying should be done on the level, although tipping towards the drain point, if you know where it is, would help.

The central question is where is the exit point. If as you seem to suggest it is from the floor of the tank in your case and that point is indeed at the centre of the floor then your argument stands, however if the exit from the floor is close to a side of the tank then tilting slightly to that side would help, however the big benefit comes with tanks that have side wall positioned exits, then ensuring a tilt to that point is extremely beneficial, as in my case!

 

[Techno]

Anyone experienced a faulty remote? New battery fitted but it’s all tits up

 

[dpsuk999]

Not yet.....has it been a while since deployed? Have you tried pulling the fuse on your pump to completely power down the system....just a thought

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[Neckender]

Mines been fine but only 6 months old.

John.

 

[sallylillian]

As @dpsuk999 says try completely powering down the system, by removing its fuse. If that does not work, I wonder if it needs to go through the connecting process as described in the manual, like it was new? Did you have a red light indicating low battery before you replaced the battery?

 

[Techno]

Can’t lay my hands on the manual just now.
First thing the remote would not respond to power button so fitted a new battery and still won’t turn on but holding down a combination of two buttons makes it light up.
The manual control still works fine

 

[sallylillian]

I assume by manual control you mean the fitted panel? Anyway at least the system is working. I have attached the remote manual, although no real troubleshooting. If going through the connection procedure does not sort it a call or email to Mick at SAP might be the only solution.
S.A.P. Ltd

01302 215296

Bentley Moor Lane Unit 13 Wellsyke Ind Est , Doncaster , DN6 7BD

Today 8:00 am - 6:00 pm Open now

sap-ltd.co.uk

 

[funflair]

Can’t lay my hands on the manual just now.
First thing the remote would not respond to power button so fitted a new battery and still won’t turn on but holding down a combination of two buttons makes it light up.
The manual control still works fine

Hi Andy

Manuals are online https://www.ep-hydraulics.nl/uploads/documents/10c17c4fe6dfa5557e41668c1b72de37.pdf. This one is caravan but same idea I guess, could it need pairing if it’s been off for a while.

Martin

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[Techno]

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/415250_b4d8c07c2f1343bdaac41f0a1771ce40.pdf

 

[Speve]

I had an experience where the remote played up and the main control kept taking over,replaced battery and rebooted by disconnecting power at battery all worked fine after that.

 

[zac]

Can’t lay my hands on the manual just now.
First thing the remote would not respond to power button so fitted a new battery and still won’t turn on but holding down a combination of two buttons makes it light up.
The manual control still works fine

My remote went pair shaped a few months back, SAP sent me a new one and i sent the faulty one back. They new about the fault apparently as E&P were already sending them remotes to replace. Not sure if yours is the same but mine didnt work no mater what i did to it, the manual method worked though.

 

[Techno]

I have re paired and got it working
However when it is switched off the centre green light flashes 4 times quickly about every 18 seconds and I believe this is flattening the battery prematurely

 

[zac]

I have re paired and got it working
However when it is switched off the centre green light flashes 4 times quickly about every 18 seconds and I believe this is flattening the battery prematurely

Sounds very similar as mine wouldn’t turn off which flattened the battery. I would get it replaced.

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[Brendan]

Like @zac my remote was playing up, and running down batteries.as already said, Mick at SAP was already aware af the issue, and a new remote was sent out immediately.

 

[Techno]

Mine was fitted a little over 2yrs ago

 

[Techno]

Mick has replied to my whatsapp and agrees I have a duffer
He is in Italy and will sort it ASAP
Top service as usual

 

[zac]

Mick has replied to my whatsapp and agrees I have a duffer
He is in Italy and will sort it ASAP
Top service as usual

You cant beat that, when i picked my MH up from Adam's Morey a month or two ago i could hear a bleaping when turning the ignition on, this turned out to be the E&P jacks as someone at Adams morey had decided to have a play with them but not return them properly. Spoke to mick who was abroad at the time and within a few mins all was sorted. Of course now i know what to do i wont bother him till have tried it but to be honest i didnt expect it to be the Jacks as i never touched them. Top bloke though as he sorted it even though he was away.

 

[John and Jo]

Jack lovers, I have a question.

Can you set the auto function of the jacks to stop at a given height? Or do they just level off at the earliest opportunity?

Thanks

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[Lenny HB]

Jack lovers, I have a question.

Can you set the auto function of the jacks to stop at a given height? Or do they just level off at the earliest opportunity?

Thanks

You have an auto or manual option, all those vans you see with the wheels in air & a step ladder by the hab door have been leveled on auto.

 

[two]

Can you set the auto function of the jacks to stop at a given height? = No.
Or do they just level off at the earliest opportunity? = More or less. Newer ones might be better, otherwise they keep extending in pairs until they are happy. You could stop them early, when you think it's already 'good enough'.

 

[jezport]

Jack lovers, I have a question.

Can you set the auto function of the jacks to stop at a given height? Or do they just level off at the earliest opportunity?

Thanks

Yes you can program them to stop at a certain height. It is best to set them to level at the lowest point possible.
I reprogrammed mine. A spirit level is required when programming.

 

[ceejayt]

Have to say I rarely use manual - if it says it won't level then I just move a bit until it says out will.

If you have rear air suspension that needs to be down before the jacks go down. if you level manually there is a specific order you should do it in - if I remember correctly rear legs to the ground and then front legs and then start levelling - the controller tells you which way you need to go

 

[Badknee]

Were on a pitch in Spain that’s a bit “tight” so I need to be where I am. It wouldn’t level on auto so I put some plates under the front legs and up she went. Luvv’em.

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