How fast will a 2.3 litre, 3500kg, 5.9m coachbuilt with over cab bed go ?

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Brains said:
Right conditions I recon 100mph is possible.

My Merc Sprinter based 6.7m low profile 3.9t will do 90mph without even struggling.
I've not tried on the Autobahns to see exactly what top speed is, but I'm sure it's around 110-115mph
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It should cut out at 111mph but your speedo may show more.

I have booted it in a few Sprinters, but you don't want to be doing it for long.

Not only that, the V6 versions are dieselholics.
 
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Emmit said:
I think they might struggle to give an NIP to the Civic owner as its some time now since the alleged offence.
I think many a Civic owner would be impressed if they got 138mph.
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Are you aware that the Type R has over 300bhp?
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In Barcelona in 2020, they fined a 73 year old lady on her way to work on the northern ring-road for doing 298kmh in an Audi Q2 in a 60kmh zone. The car isn't rated at more than 212kmh, and traffic literally can't travel at that speed in the area she was alleged to have done this. When questioned, the City hall stuck to their guns, claiming the machine was working correctly and insisted she had to pay the €600 and get 6points- so she unhappily did. Then her son got the media involved, resulting in swift cancellation of the fine and points and a grudging admission of error.
 
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If i was going to clone a numberplate i would at least find a similar make, model, colour and age car to copy.

There was a case of this a few years ago with the London congestion charge. Somebody repeatedly got fines and the police weren't interested. Eventually he went to where the car was being caught and managed to get the rogue car on camera, while he could prove his car was elsewhere before the police would take him seriously.

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Widge said:
If i was going to clone a numberplate i would at least find a similar make, model, colour and age car to copy.

There was a case of this a few years ago with the London congestion charge. Somebody repeatedly got fines and the police weren't interested. Eventually he went to where the car was being caught and managed to get the rogue car on camera, while he could prove his car was elsewhere before the police would take him seriously.
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Years ago, someone cloned one of my Engineers van registrations.

The cloners did a Bank robbery with the cloned van, hit a hearse in a funeral cortege.

The Police were on us and god did we get some stick. Until they found the cloned van.
 
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I was on the Autobahn and needed to be somewhere quickly. At the time I didn’t realise there were speed limits for motorhomes. I was in a 4500kg Carthago with the 130 in it.
I was pulled over by the police who were in an unmarked car and they had followed me for over 3km at an average of 150kmh.
I did get away with it mind.
When people tell me that the 130 is underpowered I do tend to disagree as we weren’t on flat ground.
 
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I had a similar cloning incident.

I was in Manchester for the day working and got a NIP a few weeks later for a speeding fine in Dewsbury - when I checked the location I hadn’t been within 20 miles of it but asked for the photo.

When the picture arrived it was a silver Volvo whereas my Audi was dark grey, saying that it was clearly my reg no.

I wrote a very nice e-mail with photos of my car to compare suggesting they check the make and model with DVLA.

A few weeks later I had a letter to inform me they wouldn’t be pursuing it any further - it read like they were doing me a favour…

Anyway the car was going back to Audi in a few days so I didn’t bother doing anymore except telling Audi that the plate might have been cloned but they weren’t interested.

I’ve often wondered why they used a number from a car that was so different, was this stupidity or really smart for some reason?
 
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EuroTrotters said:
Years ago, someone cloned one of my Engineers van registrations.

The cloners did a Bank robbery with the cloned van, hit a hearse in a funeral cortege.

The Police were on us and god did we get some stick. Until they found the cloned van.
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I guess number cloning will get more common with the increase in ULEZ.
 
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When I was servicing garage equipment back in the 90's, I saw one of the valeters, sat beside the rubbish skip smashing up a big pile of number plates. He said they just used to throw them in whole, once they had swapped them over to new ones with the garage's logo on them, but scrotes were pinching them and flogging them off for cloning.

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Otter Spotter said:
AI working its magic ! 🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀
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Hardly a new thing. I worked on a project 20 years ago that used (very bad!) optical character recognition to capture car number plates. It was far cheaper than paying someone to do it by hand. Many of the mistakes it made would have been made by a human. Although we did get an odd hit when it saw the roof of a truck with a shadow from is aerial and some random dirt that it thought looked like a personalised plate.

You don't even need a computer to do ocr. A block of glass can do it.
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Guigsy said:
Hardly a new thing. I worked on a project 20 years ago that used (very bad!) optical character recognition to capture car number plates. It was far cheaper than paying someone to do it by hand. Many of the mistakes it made would have been made by a human. Although we did get an odd hit when it saw the roof of a truck with a shadow from is aerial and some random dirt that it thought looked like a personalised plate.

You don't even need a computer to do ocr. A block of glass can do it.
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It would be interesting to see the stats around mistakes made by cameras and the costs incurred, and how many daft sods just pay up without question 🥴🥴
 
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Otter Spotter said:
It would be interesting to see the stats around mistakes made by cameras and the costs incurred, and how many daft sods just pay up without question 🥴🥴
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Humans do have a lower error rate, but it's not zero. ANPR cameras are cheap and somewhere around 99.9% accurate. Humans might be slightly more accurate with difficult plates, but then they also make typos on the easy stuff. They are also hundreds of times slower and far, far more expensive per plate processed.

There could be a human sanity check when fines are issued to make sure it's the correct model of car. But it's still not going to eliminate cloned plates when the cloner is smart enough to find a similar car to clone.
 
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headlight said:
The only way my motorhome would reach 138 mph is if it was driven off a very high cliff or dropped out of a plane :ROFLMAO:
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At 138mph a Swift would fall apart they do it quite easily at 60mph

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Brains said:
Right conditions I recon 100mph is possible.

My Merc Sprinter based 6.7m low profile 3.9t will do 90mph without even struggling.
I've not tried on the Autobahns to see exactly what top speed is, but I'm sure it's around 110-115mph
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be aware that may German autobahn have speed limits, stick to the rule of thumb German is 10% over the stated limit is ok but 11% is not
 
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Widge said:
If i was going to clone a numberplate i would at least find a similar make, model, colour and age car to copy.

There was a case of this a few years ago with the London congestion charge. Somebody repeatedly got fines and the police weren't interested. Eventually he went to where the car was being caught and managed to get the rogue car on camera, while he could prove his car was elsewhere before the police would take him seriously.
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My old panel van got cloned earlier this year so that some chap could dodge the congestion charge in London. The police were not interested in the slightest, according to wilts and the met they would only take action if I had proof the vehicle had been involved in “a crime”. So clearly cloning plates is not a crime (that they are resourced to investigate/solve so they won’t even register it as a crime). I had time stamped pictures from my ring doorbell of my vehicle at home at the times when, according to TFL, it was in the ULEZ having not payed its congestion charge. TFL dropped it after I contested four separate fines in the space of a few weeks. Thankfully I had a ring doorbell to give some good evidence to contest the fines with either my presence or the vans presence in wilts.

Few weeks later I was selling my wife’s 11plate golf and had a guy phone me up to get the reg plate so he could “get an insurance quote”… when I wouldn’t tell him straight away he hung up. Clearly not a serious buyer. My advice would be to protect/erase your reg details in pictures you are posting online/in sales adverts, particularly from ULEZ non-compliant vehicles

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Ian Bosman said:
be aware that may German autobahn have speed limits, stick to the rule of thumb German is 10% over the stated limit is ok but 11% is not
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Yep ........ guess why I know that.

Very efficient German police made sure that the paperwork, including a photo of the number plate and driver, arrived at our home before we arrived back. €25.00 fine. Cost almost doubled by the time I paid our bank to transfer it.
 
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