HELP - No Electricity

[CutThroatJake]

I thought that you said that you couldn't access the app to see if discharge was enabled ?

I took a screenshot of the app and sent it to Steve at Roamer. He said all looked ok.

 

[StillGoing]

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There’s a battery switch on the top left of the EBL. It’s currently on Batterie Ein (battery on). Switch it to Aus (off), wait 30 seconds and then switch it back to Ein. If it’s like some other EBL’s, you should hear a click of the relay when you switch it. If you don’t hear a click it could be the relay has broken. On the control panel switch on the 12V.

 

[autorouter]

You want to know: Is the battery producing power? Is the power getting to the EBL? Is the power getting through the two main power relays inside the EBL?

Can you check the voltage on the Roamer battery terminals? Is it over 12V? If not, it's a battery problem; if it is, go to the next step.

Check the voltage on the two pins of the 'Zusatz Lader' socket on the EBL front panel. These are connected directly to the EBL internal wiring from the leisure battery. If it's not over 12V, the power isn't getting to the EBL. You could double-check the 'Zusatz Ladegerate' fuse is OK, that needs to be good for the test to work.

There are two power relays that are turned on and off by the battery cutoff switch. They can be tested separately.

To test Power Relay 2, check the voltage on the two spade terminals BL18. This comes directly from the power relay 2, which supplies all the permanently on devices that are not turned off by the panel 12V on/off switch. Like the step, fridge control etc. You should get 12V to 15V at those terminals when the battery cutoff switch is turned on. It should drop to around zero when the battery cutoff switch is turned off. The 25A fuse labelled 'Standheizung' needs to be good for this test to work.

Power Relay 1 supplies all the other consumer devices like the lights, TV, 12V sockets, electric bed etc. They are obviously not working so no need to test them.

 

[CutThroatJake]

Thanks for that information.

We are back home now after calling the RAC.

The guy was brilliant and managed to raise the front blind without the special HYMER tool as I couldn’t find it

I’m going up to the storage site later in the week and will do all the tests you suggest.

I did check the batteries yesterday and the RAC guy check them this morning and they were fine. I also checked every one of the EBL fuses and they all beeped.

Can I just thank all that replied for their input. It was great encouragement yesterday in our hour of need to know the community was looking to assist us

I think that the control panel is broken but to make sure I’m going to speak to Schaudt tomorrow and ask their opinion.

 

[autorouter]

I think that the control panel is broken but to make sure I’m going to speak to Schaudt tomorrow and ask their opinion.

People on here recommend emailing Udo Lang at Schaudt. His email was udo.lang@schaudt.gmbh, don't know what it is now that Schaudt are now part of Lippert Europe.

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[Pausim]

People on here recommend emailing Udo Lang at Schaudt. His email was udo.lang@schaudt.gmbh, don't know what it is now that Schaudt are now part of Lippert Europe.

Lippert took over Schaudt in 2021 and that email address worked for me last November.

 

[Lenny HB]

The guy was brilliant and managed to raise the front blind without the special HYMER tool as I couldn’t find it

Did you look under the mattress in the drop down bed?

 

[CutThroatJake]

Did you look under the mattress in the drop down bed?

I couldn’t move the bed down as its electric

 

[Lenny HB]

I couldn’t move the bed down as its electric

Didn't have a handle for that either.

 

[CutThroatJake]

Didn't have a handle for that either.

Sadly no

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[Lenny HB]

Your problem highlights why I went for 2 x 230ah batteries rather than a single 460ah.

 

[CutThroatJake]

Your problem highlights why I went for 2 x 230ah batteries rather than a single 460ah.

I went for x4 230ah batteries

 

[Lenny HB]

I went for x4 230ah batteries

My battery's connect to a 4 way switch so I can select either battery or both.

 

[CutThroatJake]

My battery's connect to a 4 way switch so I can select either battery or both.

Don't know if I've got one of those. What does it look like?

 

[Lenny HB]

Don't know if I've got one of those. What does it look like?

This is my one.

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[CutThroatJake]

Sadly I don't have anything like that as I can see

 

[headlight]

Sadly I don't have anything like that as I can see

So are your batteries providing power now ?

 

[CutThroatJake]

Not sure. I still can’t get the control panel to work.

 

[autorouter]

Looking at the EBL 400 manual, the battery supplies to it are a bit different from most other EBLs. There are four 2-terminal heavy-duty connectors at the back. The top two are for the battery power inputs. The outer one is for the starter battery, the inner one is for the leisure battery. If you can get at the back of the EBL you could check that battery power is reaching those connectors. There's a diagram on page 18 of the manual.

Also it looks like there is a 50A fuse at the back of the EBL, just above those two battery inputs. Worth checking that fuse, it's for the power distribution buses. From your picture it doesn't look like an easy job to get at the back of the EBL.

Do you have the EBL 400 manual? It's on the Lippert website:

https://res.cloudinary.com/lci-cloudinary/image/upload/v1694803226/lippert-eu/support/power-on-board/pdf/anleitungen/911/9110609/8110609_2020-01-08_EBL400A_BA_EN.pdf

There's a wiring diagram at the end somewhere.