heating oil, ouch!

[Chris]

Anyone recommend a log burner?

We have a Heta and it’s very good.

Barclaybasher is the expert on this stuff.

 

[Barclaybasher]

Thanks Chris

Anyone considering a log burner should work out how much heat they need and don't buy one larger.

Buy from a local specialist who will fit it.

A good stove will cost from about £800

Not the sort of thing you should buy online

 

[denisejoe]

I wish

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[Nirvanauk]

We have an oil Rayburn which has proven very tricky and even now after spending a fortune on it can be hit and miss if it heats properly. Thank goodness for our wood burners which have kept downstairs lovely and warm (and I suppose for the trees who sacrificed themselves during the last three storms)

Ha! we have exactly the same set up. Fun innit!

 

[Jasz]

This morning Boilerjuice had shot up to 130p from 120p yesterday - bonkers

Looked online for local suppliers and found some at 107p so bought 500 litres to keep us going.

Looks like Boilerjuice is driving up prices, so will shop around next time

I have always got a price locally significantly below that of Boilerjuice, so much for their adverts saying they match the cheapest in your area.

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[Mikeco]

Luckily I did not see the logic or take the advice of Martin Lewis the Money Saving Expert, to sit it out and see what happens with energy prices, and I too locked in for two years last October.

I was locked in with Bristol Energy but they have gone under so have been transferred to British Gas at nearly three times more than I was paying.

 

[Ivory55]

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I meant I wish I had gold to sell

 

[Figaro]

Anyone considering a log burner should work out how much heat they need and don't buy one larger.

How would one do that please ?

 

[Barclaybasher]

How would one do that please ?

A modern 5kw stove will heat a large lounge on its own even in a poorly insulated property.

If you have good insulation, double or triple double glazing and a modern central heating boiler a woodburner would be not needed, more of an alternative heating source.

Every property is different and your local stove supplier should advise.

Hope that helps.

 

[Googlebot]

How would one do that please ?

You can get online heat loss calculators that size radiators. I just used Google to find them, input the type and size of room.

Anything above 5kw (I think) needs a vent to outside or one of the ones that has an internal air intake from external air.

We have a small Charnwood one, it heats the whole house if we leave the doors open. We don’t use the heating at all in the evening.

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[Martin+Shelley]

We have a 5kw which heats the whole house to a very comfortable temperature. The house is 300 years old and stone, but with good roof insulation and insulated internal walls and floors…. So 5kw does the trick.
remember that you will have to have a flue liner fitted at the time of the installation and anything over 5kw will require an air vent knocking through the wall to allow for a good combustion of the logs.
Read up on what to burn and mostly what not to burn as this will effect the heat and your maintenance cost…. And factor in the chimney sweep. Ask your sweep who to buy your logs from as he will more then likely send you to a supplier of good kiln or seasoned log.

 

[Podney]

I have always got a price locally significantly below that of Boilerjuice, so much for their adverts saying they match the cheapest in your area.

Boiler juice are useless. I’ve been getting their emails/ offers for years and always do better elsewhere,like you. Can’t understand why anyone deals with them!

 

[pappajohn]

Wood burners not good for the climate

Sorry, but if it means going cold due to sky high prices of oil and gas then the climate can go and do one.

 

[pappajohn]

I don't see that wood burners can possibly be 'not allowed in new build houses'

It's correct, as are gas wall and hearth fires and open fires.
Gas boilers ((for now) and heat source pumps are the only forms now allowed

 

[Podney]

Sorry, but if it means going cold due to sky high prices of oil and gas then the climate can go and do one.

Yes,unfortunately I think a lot of people think the same,as do I. I’m surprised no one has been whinging about the carbon nasties now being created in Ukraine. Mr Putin,please use environmentally friendly shells in your tanks,it’s only a matter of time before the Green Party join the war………or maybe not.

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[Bailey58]

Don't know about the Green Party but I thought I heard mention of Greenpeace heading into the Black Sea?

 

[Figaro]

A modern 5kw stove will heat a large lounge on its own even in a poorly insulated property.

If you have good insulation, double or triple double glazing and a modern central heating boiler a woodburner would be not needed, more of an alternative heating source.

Every property is different and your local stove supplier should advise.

Hope that helps.

Yes, thinking of an alternative heat source for next winter, I don't fancy being held to ransom by uncertain gas supplies

 

[Gizmouk]

The wood burner has probably saved us quite a few quid this winter. Now where do we get the free logs

You'll need a chainsaw, a trailer, and a little patience waiting for the next storm to blow down a few trees.
Free logs, free heating

 

[Quackers]

Or you could stay at Woodside Field for a weekend, maybe help out on the wood chipper or pile up fallen branches in the woods, and maybe we will let you take a trailer of logs home.

 

[Barclaybasher]

It's correct, as are gas wall and hearth fires and open fires.
Gas boilers ((for now) and heat source pumps are the only forms now allowed

Once owned you can fit a woodburner or a gas fire to a new build.
You would need to run a gas supply. Then fit a flue or in the case of gas maybe a balanced flue.
As said before, you won't likely need the heat but it will give you a choice.

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[Ivory55]

As the old saying goes, don’t put all your eggs in one basket

 

[Dutch 68]

I have only oil and a couple of woodburners. Try Clearview I have had many different makes over the years and these are the best clean burners by far.

Charnwood makes excellent wood burners , manufactured in the Isle of Wight I believe , so free of the made in China label which is a great plus to me

 

[Fragle]

Or you could stay at Woodside Field for a weekend, maybe help out on the wood chipper or pile up fallen branches in the woods, and maybe we will let you take a trailer of logs home.

That sounds good to me

 

[Puddleduck]

I'm thinking of getting a wood burner fitted for next winter as we're fully reliant on gas for heat , I can see gas shortages or rationing if you can afford it

We are having a wood burner put in later this spring. We rely on oil.

After all the recent storms there is plenty of waste wood available (have to store it for a couple of years) plus the local saw mill sells off cuts and scrap for very little.

 

[Dutch 68]

Probably will be soon but we’d been looking for a couple of months before we moved and the cost didn’t seem to have gone up by much from then, can’t say what they were a year ago though. We could buy a cheap Chinese one for half the price but decided to support a British (based in Isle of Wight) manufacturer.

Charnwood yes? Very good quality , so efficient, I am only using half the logs since I replaced my villager with a Charnwood, very controllable also mine is multi fuel so pressed coal is great too, throws out enormous heat if needed

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[CazPaul]

I saw a Clock stove working in someone’s house the other week, what a lovely stove.

 

[Toady]

What a nightmare!

I ordered 1000 litres on 23/2 with Boilerjuice at 64p a litre for delivery on the 9/3. I paid the total sum by credit card.

I received an email today to inform me that the supplier used by Boilerjuice could not deliver the oil tomorrow and Boilerjuice had now cancelled my order.

I ordered oil with a local supplier today and paid125p a litre for 1000 litres to be delivered today.

This afternoon I made some enquiries with the supplier Boilerjuice were going to use. They are still supplying oil with a 10-15 day wait. They stated that Boilerjuice had stopped processing orders on the 7/3 and whilst my order was showing on their system, Boilerjuice had not paid them. The conversation was recorded.

Furthermore, the total price would depend on oil prices on the day of delivery.

Basically, Boilerjuice have been caught out lying.

In my opinion, Boilerjuice have broken their contract and should compensate me for the difference I paid for the oil today.

I would appreciate your views?

 

[Ingwe]

What a nightmare!

I ordered 1000 litres on 23/2 with Boilerjuice at 64p a litre for delivery on the 9/3. I paid the total sum by credit card.

I received an email today to inform me that the supplier used by Boilerjuice could not deliver the oil tomorrow and Boilerjuice had now cancelled my order.

I ordered oil with a local supplier today and paid125p a litre for 1000 litres to be delivered today.

This afternoon I made some enquiries with the supplier Boilerjuice were going to use. They are still supplying oil with a 10-15 day wait. They stated that Boilerjuice had stopped processing orders on the 7/3 and whilst my order was showing on their system, Boilerjuice had not paid them. The conversation was recorded.

Furthermore, the total price would depend on oil prices on the day of delivery.

Basically, Boilerjuice have been caught out lying.

In my opinion, Boilerjuice have broken their contract and should compensate me for the difference I paid for the oil today.

I would appreciate your views?

I should check your contract for the precise terms of the supply contract looking especially but not only for force majeur clauses which may allow them to cancel or alter the terms of the contract if circumstances, outside of the supplier’s control, prevent them fulfilling the contract. Such as war in the Ukraine.

 

[Toady]

I should check your contract for the precise terms of the supply contract looking especially but not only for force majeur clauses which may allow them to cancel or alter the terms of the contract if circumstances, outside of the supplier’s control, prevent them fulfilling the contract. Such as war in the Ukraine.

I have got no problem with that but the fact they lied in their email regarding the supplier and the supplier has confirmed this fact shows that there is not a lack of oil but it is down to price.

Funsters be warned if you are waiting for oil

 

[Silver-Fox]

What a nightmare!

I ordered 1000 litres on 23/2 with Boilerjuice at 64p a litre for delivery on the 9/3. I paid the total sum by credit card.

I received an email today to inform me that the supplier used by Boilerjuice could not deliver the oil tomorrow and Boilerjuice had now cancelled my order.

I ordered oil with a local supplier today and paid125p a litre for 1000 litres to be delivered today.

This afternoon I made some enquiries with the supplier Boilerjuice were going to use. They are still supplying oil with a 10-15 day wait. They stated that Boilerjuice had stopped processing orders on the 7/3 and whilst my order was showing on their system, Boilerjuice had not paid them. The conversation was recorded.

Furthermore, the total price would depend on oil prices on the day of delivery.

Basically, Boilerjuice have been caught out lying.

In my opinion, Boilerjuice have broken their contract and should compensate me for the difference I paid for the oil today.

I would appreciate your views?

Breach of contract?

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