Has this ever happened to anyone whilst doin the nc500

[Sue coulson]

Travelling from thurso to Kyle of tongue. Tailgate by an unmarked saloon for about 25miles. Stressing I pulled in a layby. They overtook me passenger put a camera out an took a picture?? As far as I'm aware not doin anything wrong

 

[Silver-Fox]

All very odd, never had it happen before.
Just shows there's strange people everywhere.

Herding instinct

 

[eddie]

Surely the Police would look at it in a different light, a motorhome was driving for several miles along a scenic road, a car was doing the same thing.

The driver of the motorhome pulled into a layby

The car continued driving along the route

The passenger in the car took a photograph out of the window

"And what offence would you like us to investigate Sir/Madam?"

We don't know if the passenger was taking photographs along the route, nor do we know if the passenger continued taking photographs, we don't know if the car driver sped up, frustrated by being a motorhome, all we know is that a motorhome was driving along a road, a famous scenic route, so was a car, once the motorhome actually stopped by pulling into a layby a car drove by and someone took a photograph, of what is only an assumption, a guess absolutely no proof.

On the strength of this people are suggesting keeping clear of the area, suggesting that things like this are "suspicious" and that People from Perth are a "type" LOL

Love it

 

[stuartholmes]

UK speed limits are exactly that, a limit, not a target !!
I drive whatever speed I choose up to the signed limit.

Taking into consideration other road users who may be behind me, just common courtesy to allow them to pass if I'm driving slower.

There is an exception, motorways have a minimum speed due to safety.

Don't think that's correct about motorway speed limits and my brother failed his driving test for 'not keeping up..'

But I agree with the common courtesy thing!

 

[stuartholmes]

Eventually I got out to explain I had a car behind me (and more joining the queue). He wouldn't speak, didn't even make eye contact and him and his wife both opened newspapers to read!

I'd have explained that as well as newspapers we have a tv, food and a toilet, to say nothing of beds!

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[Silver-Fox]

Don't think that's correct about motorway speed limits and my brother failed his driving test for 'not keeping up..'

But I agree with the common courtesy thing!

You certainly will fail your test for not keeping up with the flow of traffic.

Possibly lots of older drivers who seem to drive slowly would also fail if they introduced a retest/refresher after a certain age.

 

[Apacheman]

I followed one a few weeks ago in the Lake District , we were on the Motorbikes, as I said to my son it’s not surprising that so many people hate Motorhomes .

Ask North Yorkshire police what their impressions of motorbikes and motorhomes are. Sure the one with two wheels will be far more negative. Often see signs with bikes and the number of casualties over a period. Yet to see one for a Motorhome!

 

[TheMobileWanderer]

UK speed limits are exactly that, a limit, not a target !!

We should be driving at the limit unless road or weather conditions dictate otherwise.

I drive whatever speed I choose up to the signed limit.

That can be very inconsiderate.

Taking into consideration other road users who may be behind me, just common courtesy to allow them to pass if I'm driving slower.

I don't think anyone 'allows' anyone to overtake them. The driver who wants to overtake should do it swiftly, as soon as it's 'on'.

When I say 'on', I mean...

The overtaker will be sure there's no vehicle already overtaking him or about to overtake him,
The overtaker will be sure there are no lanes or junctions on either side of the road, within the stretch of road needed for the overtake,
The overtaker will be sure there's nothing in front of the overtakee, which may result in his pulling out or swerving,

The overtaker will be certain that there's no slurry/dead animals or other obstruction (eg BT vans) on the roadway, within the overtake stretch, which may cause the overtakee to alter speed or direction or which may puncture or damage either vehicle,

The overtaker will be sure that there's sufficient length of road visible and clear, within which to perform the overtake,

Before starting the overtake, the overtaker will have identified a clear place to pull back into after the overtake is done. This applies particularly is overtaking part of a line of vehicles,

The overtaker will be certain there's no oncoming traffic within the stretch needed for the overtake.

The overtaker will have prepared for the unexpected so if anything goes awry, he'll know where his escape route is. Eg, if he's made a mistake and needs to swerve to avoid/minimise collision, he'll know which way he'll swerve taking account of trees, ditches, stone walls, residential gardens etc. (We should be doing that continually for contingency purposes)

The overtakee doesn't need to do anything. Actually needs to do nothing but continue to drive towards his/her destination.

I wonder how many of us do all of that before accelerating to begin the overtake.

 

[stuartholmes]

Because of that, it's not wrong for the driver behind, to hold back. It's actually wise and instilled into those doing advanced driving courses.

Completely agree. If you want somebody to overtake you slowing down just creates confusion, you need to signal and stop where they have a clear view round you. And bear in mind that although you know how wide your vehicle is the other driver may not & may need a bigger margin for error than you're making available.

 

[stuartholmes]

As a scottish motorhome owner i wont go notth of Perth as so many of my fellow countryman are rude and ignorant towards motorhome owners. This is a classic example. I would have given them the finger when the camera appeared.

Aah! Lowlanders! Practically English!!

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[TheMobileWanderer]

And bear in mind that although you know how wide your vehicle is the other driver may not & may need a bigger margin for error than you're making available.

The overtaker only needs to know the width of his own vehicle, not that of the overtakee, which he should know anyway from his being behind the overtakee.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

We should be driving at the limit unless road or weather conditions dictate otherwise.

That can be very inconsiderate.

I don't think anyone 'allows' anyone to overtake them. The driver who wants to overtake should do it swiftly, as soon as it's 'on'.

When I say 'on', I mean...

The overtaker will be sure there's no vehicle already overtaking him or about to overtake him,
The overtaker will be sure there are no lanes or junctions on either side of the road, within the stretch of road needed for the overtake,
The overtaker will be sure there's nothing in front of the overtakee, which may result in his pulling out or swerving,

The overtaker will be certain that there's no slurry/dead animals or other obstruction (eg BT vans) on the roadway, within the overtake stretch, which may cause the overtakee to alter speed or direction or which may puncture or damage either vehicle,

The overtaker will be sure that there's sufficient length of road visible and clear, within which to perform the overtake,

Before starting the overtake, the overtaker will have identified a clear place to pull back into after the overtake is done. This applies particularly is overtaking part of a line of vehicles,

The overtaker will be certain there's no oncoming traffic within the stretch needed for the overtake.

The overtaker will have prepared for the unexpected so if anything goes awry, he'll know where his escape route is. Eg, if he's made a mistake and needs to swerve to avoid/minimise collision, he'll know which way he'll swerve taking account of trees, ditches, stone walls, residential gardens etc. (We should be doing that continually for contingency purposes)

The overtakee doesn't need to do anything. Actually needs to do nothing but continue to drive towards his/her destination.

I wonder how many of us do all of that before accelerating to begin the overtake.

It's easier if someone who is driving slowly or holding up traffic to indicate and pull into a layby or passing place to allow faster vehicles to carry on with thier journey without having to resort to potentially dangerous overtaking caused by frustration etc.

 

[stuartholmes]

Nope dont have one will be getting one now!

With a rear view module too I hope. In my opinion all vehicles should have them factory fitted from new.

 

[TheMobileWanderer]

It's easier if someone who is driving slowly or holding up traffic to indicate and pull into a layby or passing place to allow faster vehicles to carry on with thier journey without having to resort to potentially dangerous overtaking caused by frustration etc.

If one vehicle is driving slower than the others and therefore holding them up, it's incumbent on the slow vehicle to pull over at the earliest opportunity, to let others past. Tractors are the easiest example but any moving obstruction should pull over.

Any matter of frustration lies with the overtaker, not the slow mover.

 

[stuartholmes]

The overtaker only needs to know the width of his own vehicle, not that of the overtakee, which he should know anyway from his being behind the overtakee.

Yes but what I meant was he/she may be less confident in his/her understanding of the space available being sufficient, given that on the roads in question with the width of a motorhome to include there's probably less margin for error than in car vs. car situations.

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[TheMobileWanderer]

Yes but what I meant was he/she may be less confident that his/her understanding of the space available being sufficient, given that on the roads in question with the width of a motorhome to include there's probably less margin for error than in car vs. car situations.

Yes but that's a matter, which relates to competence of the potential overtaker and not any fault/issue with motorhomer.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Any matter of frustration lies with the overtaker, not the slow mover.

Totally agree .

 

[AG 2602]

It's funny how these NC500 posts pop up from time to time.

Reading the comments, most are from down south, and I'm not surprised to see the 'I won't go to Scotland' for what ever reason..

Well, as someone who goes on parts of the NC500 all the time, and lives on it, we've never seen any anti motorhome antics, but read about them from people who have never been or won't come for what ever reason, all I can say is good for you.

Do you think we'll miss you ?

BUT, if you do want to come, then do so, as you don't know what you are missing, white beaches, beautiful scenery, fresh (and I do mean FRESH) air. Cheap places to stop at, or lots of free areas near beaches if you know where to look. Plenty of places to get fresh water, empty grey and black waste now as more and more are appearing, lots of them just ask for a donation.

It's probably why the Dutch, Italians, French and Germans love it here in their motorhomes, and we get on average 6 million visitors every year up here in the Highlands, I wonder why ?

Certainly the best trip we’ve done in the van in the six years of using the Motorhome. Helped by 3 weeks of great weather (May this year) and very friendly locals! We will be back next year to do more of the west coast

 

[stuartholmes]

You certainly will fail your test for not keeping up with the flow of traffic.

Possibly lots of older drivers who seem to drive slowly would also fail if they introduced a retest/refresher after a certain age.

If there were enough qualified examiners I'd want re-testing every ten years. Plus one year after original test.

Also I'd like to see parenting tests for everyone spotted on their phone instead of interacting with their child, loss of mobility allowance for everyone riding a 'mobility scooter' because of being overweight, catch nets to apprehend everyone riding electrically powered scooters or bicycles in pedestrian areas, reintroduction of dog-catchers to deal with animals crapping in public parks and otherwise scaring children and a few other things it might be best to not mention here...

 

[Silver-Fox]

If there were enough qualified examiners I'd want re-testing every ten years. Plus one year after original test.

Also I'd like to see parenting tests for everyone spotted on their phone instead of interacting with their child, loss of mobility allowance for everyone riding a 'mobility scooter' because of being overweight, catch nets to apprehend everyone riding electrically powered scooters or bicycles in pedestrian areas, reintroduction of dog-catchers to deal with animals crapping in public parks and otherwise scaring children and a few other things it might be best to not mention here...

Any danger of you running to be in Parliament as I’d vote for you

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[PsychoticBadger]

+1 for parenting tests with an extensive theory paper before the 'practical' part is allowed...

 

[bigtwin]

Also I'd like to see parenting tests for everyone spotted on their phone instead of interacting with their child, loss of mobility allowance for everyone riding a 'mobility scooter' because of being overweight, catch nets to apprehend everyone riding electrically powered scooters or bicycles in pedestrian areas, reintroduction of dog-catchers to deal with animals crapping in public parks and otherwise scaring children and a few other things it might be best to not mention here...

Are you related to gus-lopez by any chance?

Ian

 

[stuartholmes]

Are you related to gus-lopez by any chance?

Ian

Don't think so but...

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

If there were enough qualified examiners I'd want re-testing every ten years. Plus one year after original test.

Also I'd like to see parenting tests for everyone spotted on their phone instead of interacting with their child, loss of mobility allowance for everyone riding a 'mobility scooter' because of being overweight, catch nets to apprehend everyone riding electrically powered scooters or bicycles in pedestrian areas, reintroduction of dog-catchers to deal with animals crapping in public parks and otherwise scaring children and a few other things it might be best to not mention here...

You can get arrested these days for speaking your mind and more so for putting it into text for all to see

 

[stuartholmes]

Any danger of you running to be in Parliament as I’d vote for you

Think I need a few hundred more, but you can be my agent.

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[stuartholmes]

You can get arrested these days for speaking your mind and more so for putting it into text for all to see

Why do you think I stopped mentioning?!?!

 

[Silver-Fox]

Think I need a few hundred more, but you can be my agent.

I’m happy to do that

 

[Silver-Fox]

Of course we have free speech in this Country providing it confirms to what the establishment allows

 

[Gellyneck]

The quote giving them the finger was in relation to the person in the over taking car who decided to take a photograph

and whilst improving relationships with other road users if caught on the photo you could, potentially, be liable for disorderly conduct prosecution with a fine of up to, I believe, £1,000.

Anyway, each to their own.

 

[BusyBuilder]

Up here if I'm in the Hymer, 1 car following they can overtake if they want to, 2 cars I indicate and pull in and wave them past with my arm, van or Tesco lorry, I indicate, pull in and wave them past, motorbike they'll pass when they want to.

Push bikes....well, they're a law unto themselves and dealt with accordingly.

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[Conniedriving]

MHs are not welcomed by everyone up there.

Done the NC 500 twice with my 8.6 tagaxle no problems at all everyone seems to be welcoming and helpful.
Think the only ones who don’t like tourists are those who don’t make money from tourists. Like someone said if you seem to be holding someone up pull in and let them pass and enjoy the trip